{"conversationCode":"870-008","tapeNumber":870,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-870-008","startDateTime":"1973-03-06T23:05:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-07T00:01:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Mar-1973","startTime":"6:05 PM","endDate":"6-Mar-1973","endTime":"7:01 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 6, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 6:05 pm and 7:01 pm. 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Shultz\n\f                                               -38-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                               Conversation No. 870-8 (cont’d)\n\n                   -Henry A. Kissinger's recommendation\n                   -European trip\n                   -Purpose\n             - Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW] meeting\n             -Meeting with Shultz\n                   -Length\n             -Meeting with Rockefeller\n                   -Time\n             -State Department briefing\n             -William P. Rogers\n                   -Telephone call about slain diplomats [?]\n             -Business Community Leaders dinner\n                   -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 7:01 pm.","filename":["870-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"870-007","nextCode":"870-009","transcript":[{"start":7.65,"end":9.19,"text":"I've got a lot of trouble over here this morning."},{"start":9.21,"end":10.73,"text":"I'm trying to stay here."},{"start":10.85,"end":12.15,"text":"I'm reading the afternoon."},{"start":12.69,"end":13.21,"text":"Any problem?"},{"start":14.07,"end":17.47,"text":"Anyone who calls for us or questions, we've got with you this morning."},{"start":17.53,"end":20.05,"text":"We're discussing here some politics."},{"start":20.79,"end":22.29,"text":"George Bush is probably a good person."},{"start":22.31,"end":24.27,"text":"I'm sure he's going to say something."},{"start":24.3,"end":26.73,"text":"I'm sure he's going to say something."},{"start":26.75,"end":27.92,"text":"I'm sure he's going to say something."},{"start":27.94,"end":31.34,"text":"I'm sure he's going to say something."},{"start":31.36,"end":32.4,"text":"I'm sure he's going to say something."},{"start":32.42,"end":33.48,"text":"I'm sure he's going to say something."},{"start":63.83,"end":64.92,"text":"You're injured on March 8th."},{"start":64.95,"end":75.18,"text":"And the recommendation is to see me tomorrow for a 30-minute meeting."},{"start":75.58,"end":77.24,"text":"I'd like to do what else?"},{"start":77.26,"end":78.4,"text":"I don't know what."},{"start":78.42,"end":79.16,"text":"Thank you, God."},{"start":80.2,"end":84.34,"text":"I've seen different shows that are on my ears."},{"start":84.41,"end":85.87,"text":"You guys can't see me again."},{"start":86.33,"end":89.71,"text":"Well, I mean, I mean, what do you got tomorrow?"},{"start":89.73,"end":89.83,"text":"VFW."},{"start":90.25,"end":90.35,"text":"VFW."},{"start":90.37,"end":90.53,"text":"Right."},{"start":90.61,"end":92.15,"text":"Don't clutter up the whole goddamn afternoon."},{"start":93.11,"end":96.65,"text":"11 o'clock until Chelsea's got 30 minutes."},{"start":96.81,"end":97.47,"text":"All right."},{"start":98.09,"end":100.68,"text":"So he knows it's 30 minutes."},{"start":100.86,"end":101.16,"text":"Crack."},{"start":101.26,"end":102.92,"text":"Crack out of the box."},{"start":103.02,"end":103.34,"text":"Okay."},{"start":104.38,"end":106.26,"text":"All right."},{"start":106.34,"end":106.58,"text":"All right."},{"start":106.72,"end":107.74,"text":"Okay."},{"start":108.46,"end":109.92,"text":"He's coming in the morning at 1030."},{"start":110.22,"end":112.34,"text":"I don't think he's going to be down at that time."},{"start":112.4,"end":114.56,"text":"I don't think he's going to be down until 1140."},{"start":114.6,"end":114.9,"text":"All right."},{"start":118.2,"end":128.63,"text":"Okay, tonight I'm about to review the whole sequence for tonight after dinner."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and aide Stephen B. Bull coordinate the President's upcoming schedule, focusing on political maneuvering and high-level meetings. The discussion addresses Nelson Rockefeller’s objections regarding George H. W. Bush’s potential involvement in New York politics and the logistics of a planned meeting with Rockefeller. They also finalize timing for a session with George P. Shultz, a VFW engagement, and other administrative preparations for the President’s evening commitments.","topics":["Schedule management","Nelson Rockefeller","George H. W. Bush","New York politics","George P. 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