{"conversationCode":"874-002","tapeNumber":874,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-874-002","startDateTime":"1973-03-09T14:26:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-09T14:52:00.000Z","startDate":"9-Mar-1973","startTime":"9:26 AM","endDate":"9-Mar-1973","endTime":"9:52 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 9, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:26 am and 9:52 am. 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Ehrlichman, Herbert\n              Stein\n                    -Cost of Living Council [COLC]\n                    -Treasury Department\n                    -Cancellation [?]\n                    -Time arrangements\n             -Time of meeting with White House Fellows [?]\n             -Crime, drugs speech\n                    -Preparation\n                    -Taping\n                    -Editing\n                    -Scheduling\n                    -Time\n                    -Preparation\n             -Meeting with William P. Rogers\n                    -Arrangements, place\n\f                                               -2-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                              Conversation No. 874-2 (cont’d)\n\n             -Swearing-in ceremony\n             -Janet J. Johnston\n             -Meeting with Congressmen, Senators\n             -Meeting with White House Fellows\n                   -Length\n             -White House Photographers Association\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 9:52 am.","filename":["874-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"874-001","nextCode":"874-003","transcript":[{"start":28.03,"end":29.07,"text":"Let's see."},{"start":29.11,"end":31.02,"text":"I would like to see..."},{"start":82.29,"end":83.37,"text":"Well, that may be it."},{"start":83.41,"end":86.67,"text":"You see, there are all the people that are going to go to watch."},{"start":86.69,"end":89.63,"text":"The trouble is, I'm going to have to get the speech."},{"start":89.65,"end":104.78,"text":"I can take the speech tomorrow morning."},{"start":105.25,"end":105.48,"text":"Right?"},{"start":105.87,"end":109.33,"text":"You can take it tomorrow or this afternoon, just before you leave."},{"start":109.35,"end":110.37,"text":"I want to be sure we all come here."},{"start":112.21,"end":121.6,"text":"When I leave for 1230, I'm going to see what he's doing."},{"start":121.72,"end":127.41,"text":"Maybe tomorrow we'll go to lunch."},{"start":127.43,"end":128.25,"text":"They should come at 8."},{"start":154.06,"end":179.65,"text":"There's no question you might want to see me."},{"start":181.67,"end":183.9,"text":"None of this stuff is important."},{"start":183.92,"end":185.82,"text":"You know, Janet Johnson."},{"start":186.94,"end":188.54,"text":"I've yet to receive Janet Johnson."},{"start":188.56,"end":194.22,"text":"She should have been put on."},{"start":194.24,"end":199.29,"text":"I can't believe she was."},{"start":199.31,"end":201.43,"text":"There's no more of that now."},{"start":201.89,"end":208.75,"text":"No more, no more of that."},{"start":218.05,"end":227.53,"text":"They're almost just going to get them in here and get their ass out."},{"start":227.57,"end":233.02,"text":"That's a picture of them."},{"start":233.6,"end":235.14,"text":"No, don't grab them around."},{"start":235.36,"end":237.34,"text":"I can't drop them."},{"start":237.4,"end":238.16,"text":"It's okay."},{"start":239.72,"end":240.08,"text":"Go ahead."},{"start":240.12,"end":241.46,"text":"I'll get that out of the way."},{"start":242.44,"end":250.41,"text":"I'll try to get something out, but I should see the... Let me guess, it's just half the... Half the..."},{"start":250.43,"end":251.43,"text":"The other's at 3 o'clock."},{"start":251.71,"end":252.49,"text":"Is that that far?"},{"start":253.43,"end":253.85,"text":"Seriously?"},{"start":254.43,"end":256.31,"text":"Yeah, that's about 3 o'clock."},{"start":256.35,"end":258.68,"text":"3 o'clock."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate his daily schedule and manage upcoming administrative tasks. The discussion focused on logistical arrangements for presidential speeches on crime and drugs, as well as the scheduling of meetings involving cabinet members and the Cost of Living Council. Additionally, the pair addressed appointments with White House Fellows and members of Congress, with the President emphasizing the need for efficiency in managing his time and personal interactions.","topics":["Presidential schedule","White House logistics","Cost of Living Council","Speech preparation","Scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T22:52:58.664Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","white-house-logistics","cost-of-living-council","speech-preparation","scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":265,"audioFiles":[{"file":"874-002.mp3","bytes":2140160,"durationSec":264.76,"bitrate":64667,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.697Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:52.626Z","transcriptGapSeconds":41,"transcriptGapShare":0.15,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/874-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/874-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/874/conversation-874-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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