{"conversationCode":"878-006","tapeNumber":878,"conversationNumber":6,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-878-006","startDateTime":"1973-03-13T16:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-13T16:35:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Mar-1973","startTime":"11:16 AM","endDate":"13-Mar-1973","endTime":"11:35 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:16 am and 11:35 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 878-006 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 878-6\n\nDate: March 13, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 11:16 am and 11:35 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       President’s schedule\n             -President's reception for Foreign Service wives\n                   -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n                   -Location\n                   -Timing\n             -Meeting with John J. McCloy\n                   -Surprise by President\n                   -Press coverage\n                          -Mrs. Nixon\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:35 am.","filename":["878-006.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"878-005","nextCode":"878-007","transcript":[{"start":0.7,"end":8.71,"text":"If you want to see them at 4 o'clock, it might be a better time, sir."},{"start":21.93,"end":22.49,"text":"All right."},{"start":22.57,"end":24.43,"text":"What do you want to do?"},{"start":24.55,"end":24.99,"text":"All right."},{"start":25.65,"end":28.07,"text":"Then have them boil it for 30 minutes."},{"start":28.29,"end":28.91,"text":"All right."},{"start":28.93,"end":29.29,"text":"All right."},{"start":29.43,"end":29.85,"text":"All right."},{"start":29.99,"end":32.48,"text":"No press coverage on it?"},{"start":32.7,"end":35.12,"text":"Oh, Christ."},{"start":35.46,"end":37.7,"text":"Her press will be there soon."},{"start":37.88,"end":44.44,"text":"I don't want to tell these assholes over here."},{"start":44.48,"end":45.56,"text":"I just want to..."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate logistical details for his upcoming schedule, specifically focusing on a reception for Foreign Service wives and a meeting with John J. McCloy. The President expressed a desire to minimize press visibility regarding these events, particularly concerning the involvement of the First Lady. Bull provided input on timing adjustments to better manage the sequence of these engagements.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Pat Nixon","Media relations","John J. McCloy","White House logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T22:58:08.670Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","pat-nixon","media-relations","john-j-mccloy","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":51,"audioFiles":[{"file":"878-006.mp3","bytes":337920,"durationSec":50.55,"bitrate":53482,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.697Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/878-006.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/878-006","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/878/conversation-878-006","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}