{"conversationCode":"879-001","tapeNumber":879,"conversationNumber":1,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-879-001","startDateTime":"1973-03-14T15:54:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-14T16:01:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Mar-1973","startTime":"10:54 AM","endDate":"14-Mar-1973","endTime":"11:01 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Shepard, Geoffrey C.; Acree, Vernon D.; Seeley, Albert; Boulad, Paul; Nunnery, Robert; Hopkins, Richard; Fassler, Gustave;","description":"On March 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Geoffrey C. Shepard, Vernon D. Acree, Albert Seeley, Paul Boulad, Robert Nunnery, Richard Hopkins, and Gustave Fassler met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:54 am and 11:01 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 879-001 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 879-1\n\nDate: March 14, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 10:54 am and 11:01 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Vernon D. Acree, Albert Seeley, Paul Boulad, Robert Nunnery, Richard\nHopkins, Gustave Fassler, and Geoffrey C. Shepard. Members of the press and the White House\nphotographer were present at the beginning of the meeting.\n\n       Introductions\n             -New York\n\n       Heroin seizure\n            -Amount, weight\n            -Value\n            -Trafficker\n\n[Photograph session]\n\n       Drug traffic\n            -Apprehension of drug traffickers\n            -Amount of heroin\n                    -Impact on human lives\n                           -Sentences\n                           -Comparison with Vietnam War casualties\n            -Agents\n                    -Work\n                           -Customs\n                           -Enforcement\n            -New laws\n                    -Stiff penalties\n                    -Mandatory sentences\n                           -Probation eligibility\n                                 -Conduct\n\n       Presidential gifts\n             -Cufflinks\n\f                                                 -2-\n\n                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                          Conversation No. 879-1 (cont’d)\n\n        Work of agents\n             -Congratulations\n             -Apprehension of drug traffickers\n             -Congress’s role\n                   -Laws\n             -Agents’ families\n\nAcree, et al., left at 11:01 am.","filename":["879-001.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Shepard, Geoffrey C.","Acree, Vernon D.","Seeley, Albert","Boulad, Paul","Nunnery, Robert","Hopkins, Richard","Fassler, Gustave"],"prevCode":"878-023","nextCode":"879-002","transcript":[{"start":1.45,"end":9.26,"text":"Thank you, Mr. Henry."},{"start":9.44,"end":13.28,"text":"Thank you, Mr. Henry."},{"start":13.32,"end":18.64,"text":"Thank you, Mr. Henry."},{"start":18.82,"end":25.78,"text":"Thank you, Mr. Henry."},{"start":28.53,"end":30.03,"text":"This is the cost of debit money."},{"start":30.11,"end":32.77,"text":"This is the one that I'm going to share with you."},{"start":32.87,"end":34.33,"text":"This is $10,000 pounds of heroin."},{"start":34.35,"end":35.89,"text":"Right?"},{"start":35.91,"end":37.17,"text":"This is $10,000 pounds of heroin."},{"start":37.75,"end":40.89,"text":"This is $10,000 pounds of heroin."},{"start":41.01,"end":43.45,"text":"This is $10,000 pounds of heroin."},{"start":44.17,"end":45.38,"text":"This is $10,000 pounds of heroin."},{"start":45.44,"end":47.76,"text":"This is $10,000 pounds of heroin."},{"start":47.78,"end":49.66,"text":"This is $10,000 pounds of heroin."},{"start":49.7,"end":51.42,"text":"This is $10,000 pounds of heroin."},{"start":51.44,"end":53.72,"text":"This is $10,000 pounds of heroin."},{"start":53.8,"end":56,"text":"This is $10,000 pounds of heroin."},{"start":62.48,"end":68.99,"text":"Thank you for watching."},{"start":76.08,"end":78.12,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":104.05,"end":104.93,"text":"Terima kasih telah menonton"},{"start":133.43,"end":135.61,"text":"Hai hai hai hai"},{"start":179.92,"end":182.56,"text":"Thank you for watching."},{"start":186.61,"end":211.26,"text":"So we have here, as a result of these men of color, and the hero of our people right here, and the whole connection of an individual, who was a heaven-sent man, but was not to be here, because of his parents, and now, but one and two, are supposed to be showing fight on the person I would say, these men have saved, men have died."},{"start":211.28,"end":214.42,"text":"I know the dangers that be judged from me,"},{"start":236,"end":238.68,"text":"Thank you for watching."},{"start":255.38,"end":257.37,"text":"We're going to have sicker police."},{"start":257.97,"end":260.75,"text":"We're going to have mandatory census."},{"start":260.79,"end":263.11,"text":"This is going to be full of received volunteers."},{"start":263.21,"end":279.8,"text":"And our concern will be what happens when after two years of probation officer feels perhaps he's had a record of good conduct following the prison."},{"start":281.48,"end":281.82,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":308.79,"end":311.29,"text":"Thank you for watching."},{"start":331.03,"end":340.77,"text":"Thank you for watching."},{"start":348.75,"end":355.58,"text":"Thank you for watching."},{"start":373.89,"end":376.03,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Customs officials and staff, including Vernon D. Acree, to acknowledge a significant heroin seizure and commend the agents' efforts in drug interdiction. The discussion focused on the impact of drug trafficking on American lives, with Nixon highlighting the need for stricter drug laws, including mandatory sentencing and limited probation. The President also emphasized the importance of aggressive federal enforcement and expressed his personal appreciation for the agents' work and risks.","topics":["Heroin trafficking","Customs enforcement","Mandatory sentencing","Drug policy","Law enforcement","Nixon administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T22:59:53.187Z"},"topicSlugs":["heroin-trafficking","customs-enforcement","mandatory-sentencing","drug-policy","law-enforcement","nixon-administration"],"audioDurationSec":395,"audioFiles":[{"file":"879-001.mp3","bytes":3098624,"durationSec":395.23,"bitrate":62720,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:00.697Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:53.871Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/879-001.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/879-001","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/879/conversation-879-001","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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