Conversation: 881-007
Prev:  881-006 Next: 881-008Start Date: 16-Mar-1973 12:31 PM
End Date: 16-Mar-1973 1:36 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Recording Device: Oval Office
NARA Description:
On March 16, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:31 pm to 1:36 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 881-007 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 881-7 Date: March 16, 1973 Time: 12:31 pm - 1:36 pm Location: Oval Office The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman. Congressional relations -Problem -Meeting with Pete V. Domenici and family -Children -School -Crucifix President's schedule -Meetings with people -Usefulness -Criteria for scheduling -Domenici -Value for President -Encouragement -Poster child Rose Mary Woods -Duties -Invitations -Church services -Attendance by children -24- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. July-2010) Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d) Church services -Value -Concern for religion -Invitations -Refusals -Cancellations -White House staff -Subcabinet -Vacancies -Congress members -Children -William E. Timmons -Woods's job -Children -Presence -Charles McC. Mathias, Jr. -Invitations -Cancellation -Circumstances -Congress members -Consultation with Timmons -Bryce N. Harlow, Clark MacGregor -Value Congressional relations -Meeting with Domenici -Congressional leaders meetings -Value -Ranking members of committees -Breakfast meeting Military aide to President -Work with Major John V. (“Jack”) Brennan -Conversation with Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft -Responsibilities -Relationship with Nixon family -Air Force and Navy officers -Army officer -Administrative work for Brennan -25- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. July-2010) Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d) -Logistics -Transportation -Brennan's duties -Choice for aide -Other aides’ duties -New acquaintance for President Anne L. Armstrong -Congressional leadership meetings -Attendance -Work with Congress and John D. Ehrlichman -Role -Robert H. Finch, Donald H. Rumsfeld President's schedule -Size of meetings -Working dinners Congressional relations -John McCollister -Congressman from Nebraska -MacGregor -Ehrlichman’s candidate -White House Congressional liaison -Background -SOS, Chowder and Marching Society -Joint breakfast -Loyalty to President -1968 election -Ehrlichman -Candidate for congressional liaison -Clarence J. ("Bud") Brown, Jr. -Timmons -Status -White House staff -Budget strategy -Ehrlichman, Roy L. Ash, David N. Parker -Arrangements -Surrogates -Forms -26- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. July-2010) Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d) -Train reservations -Pittsburgh -Speech -Influence -Parker, William J, Baroody, Jr., Ziegler's staff -Need for guidance -Assignments -Responsibility -Ash’s role -Ehrlichman’s role -Haldeman’s role -Need for guidance, clear goals -Ash -Budget -Parker -Ehrlishman -Speakers -Placement in congressional districts -Bella S. Abzug, Jack F. Kemp -Influence on Congress members -Pressure by major contributors -Walter H. Annenberg, [unintelligible name] -White House pressure on key people, organizations -Ohio -Indiana -State chair -Timmons's work -Democrats -Re-election -Kemp, Abzug -Initiative -Pressure points -Targeted list -Vetoes -Public pressure -Initiative -Personality, attitude -Leadership qualities -Comparison with MacGregor -Timmons -27- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. July-2010) Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d) -Demotion -Domenici -Democrats -Conceptual outlook -Replacement -Ehrlichman -Ash -Staff work -Regional briefings -Edward L. Morgan, Baroody -Editorials -Value -Nature of work -Veterans bill -Vocational rehabilitation bill -Delays -Veto -Override -Test vote -Absentee votes -Timmons's role in White House White House staff -Ash -Personality -Realism -Press relations -Compared with George P. Shultz -Shultz -New Summary -Responsibilities -Workload -Oil -Monetary policy -Wage and price controls -Labor department -Commerce Department -Trade bill -Tax bill -Need to concentrate -28- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. July-2010) Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d) -Trade -Taxes -Monetary policy -Deal with Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] -Frederic B. Dent -Kissinger -Labor-Management relations -Phase III -Comparison with John B. Connally -Energy -William E. Simon -Quality of advice -Peter M. Flanigan -Use of abilities -Shultz -Under-utilization -Ehrlichman -Ash -Management -Ehrlichman -Role in White House -Advocacy -Kenneth R. Cole, Jr. -Views -Flanigan -Taxes -Trade -Bias -Compared with Ehrlichman -Responsibilities -Talks with businessmen -Automobile prices -[First name unknown] Townsend -Flanigan -Dent -Personality -Judgment -Flanigan -Dealings with businessmen -Time -29- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. July-2010) Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d) -Governors -Cole -Use of abilities -Shultz -Ash Congressional relations -McCollister -Nebraska -Budget battle -Focus on House of Representatives -Congressional leadership abilities -Joint breakfast -Organizer of meetings -SOS -Chowder and Marching -Intelligence -Attitude -Appearance -Timmons -Replacement -Harlow -Lobbyist -Problems -MacGregor -Location -Washington, DC -Recruitment -Financial obligations Press relations -Ronald L. Ziegler -Abilities -Quality of work Congressional relations -Colson as White House Congressional liaison -Charges of involvement in Watergate related matters -Qualities -Problems -30- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. July-2010) Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d) -John O. (“Jack”) Marsh, Jr. -Possible recruitment -Personality -Costs of elections -Dwight L. Chapin, Colson -Abilities -Budget battle -Cabinet meeting -Surrogates program -Assistant secretaries -Value -Rogers -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger -Cabinet -James T. Lynn -Abilities, appearance -MacGregor -Need for positive, cheerleader attitude -Lynn -Timmons -Speaking tours -Value -Washington, DC -Rotary Clubs -Massusa [?] -Lynn -Weinberger -MacGregor -Judgeship -Watergate -Plans for next three years -Judgeship -Attorney General -Supreme Court appointment -Circuit court -District of Columbia -Counselor position in White House -Legislative advisor to President -Lawyer title -Budget matters -31- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. July-2010) Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d) -Timmons -Financial hardships -Boredom -George H. W. Bush -Abilities -Work with Republican National Committee [RNC] -Leadership abilities -Strategy -Contacts with Congress -Comparison with Robert J. Dole -MacGregor -Abilities -1974 election Watergate -Issuance of report or White Paper -Need for future conversations with John W. Dean, III -Richard A. Moore -Strategy -Cooperation with Congress -Questions from press -Staff testimony -Dean -Guidelines, restrictions -Written questions -Strategy -Maximum disclosure -Advantages, problems -Watergate burglars -Containment of testimony -Hugh W. Sloan, Jr. -Danger of confessions -G. Gordon Liddy -Sloan -Cooperation -Dissension -Conflict with Jeb Stuart Magruder -Dean's concerns -Knowledge -Speculations by Sloan -32- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. July-2010) Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d) -Liddy -Danger to administration -Knowledge of Donald H. Segretti's activities -Recruitment by Chapin -Contacts with Herbert W. Kalmbach -Work with Liddy -John N. Mitchell -Links among various activities -E. Howard Hunt, Jr. -Possible statements -Current position on responsibility for Watergate -Statement on Magruder -Implication of Colson, Dean and Mitchell -Magruder -Involvement in Watergate -Colson -Knowledge of Watergate -Magruder -Statement about Haldeman -Discussion with Dean -Link in chain -Emotional state -Testimony in court, Senate -John J. Sirica's evaluation -White Paper -Advisability -Dean's opinion -Need for action -Haldeman's opinion Haldeman left at 1:36 pm.