{"conversationCode":"881-009","tapeNumber":881,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-881-009","startDateTime":"1973-03-16T21:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-16T22:02:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Mar-1973","startTime":"4:52 PM","endDate":"16-Mar-1973","endTime":"5:02 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On March 16, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:52 pm and 5:02 pm. 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Rockefeller\n              -Book\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n*****************************************************************\n\n         Jen-Lin Huang\n              -Ambassador\n              -Gift for President\n\n         Cufflinks\n\n*****************************************************************\n[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 34s             ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n         Card\n                -Signature\n\n         Dentist\n              -Appointment\n\n         Woods’s schedule\n\n         Philip F. Timberlake’s daughter\n               -Marriage to Black man\n                     -Black child\n\f                                                -35-\n\n                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 881-9 (cont’d)\n\n              -Letter to President\n                    -1973 inauguration\n                    -Answer\n\n       Card\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n*****************************************************************\n\nWoods left at an unknown time before 5:02 pm.","filename":["881-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"881-008","nextCode":"881-010","transcript":[{"start":0.45,"end":2.07,"text":"I thought you were probably calling me."},{"start":2.09,"end":5.47,"text":"No, I had a question, but I'll figure it out tomorrow."},{"start":5.53,"end":6.99,"text":"You didn't call me."},{"start":7.07,"end":8.57,"text":"I tried to send you my question."},{"start":8.63,"end":9.83,"text":"I'll send it to you."},{"start":9.85,"end":10.83,"text":"Well, it took that long."},{"start":10.97,"end":12.99,"text":"That's what it is."},{"start":13.09,"end":18.77,"text":"That night when Mr. Thomas talked, I thought that was usually right tomorrow."},{"start":18.91,"end":19.18,"text":"Yes."},{"start":19.54,"end":19.95,"text":"She sent it over."},{"start":20.05,"end":21.6,"text":"I'll try to read it by tomorrow."},{"start":21.66,"end":26.32,"text":"See what I can."},{"start":31.53,"end":38.86,"text":"Just put it to the head of the head of the head of the head."},{"start":55.03,"end":57.71,"text":"And then I, these are from that wall."},{"start":57.97,"end":58.73,"text":"Remember?"},{"start":58.75,"end":60.52,"text":"It was terrible when we were in."},{"start":60.98,"end":61.36,"text":"Oh, yes."},{"start":61.46,"end":62.28,"text":"It's all kind of long."},{"start":62.46,"end":62.8,"text":"Yes."},{"start":64.08,"end":69.63,"text":"And I would recommend that you use those when you're over at your house."},{"start":69.71,"end":72.17,"text":"I know I just spent about half of my money on paper."},{"start":72.19,"end":73.39,"text":"It's crazy."},{"start":73.51,"end":73.99,"text":"It's crazy."},{"start":83.19,"end":86.77,"text":"Oh, I want to do one thing."},{"start":116.6,"end":118.72,"text":"I don't think it's necessary."},{"start":118.92,"end":131.3,"text":"And I'll check with Dennis tomorrow."},{"start":148.52,"end":170.51,"text":"Well, I don't know if you know, one of your, Dr. Timberland, one of his daughters here in the Negro, she wrote in a letter to all her, she didn't come to my race, but her father was against her."},{"start":170.53,"end":172.03,"text":"And I was expecting..."},{"start":176.46,"end":178.3,"text":"Well, she had a little black baby."},{"start":178.38,"end":183.42,"text":"Her daughter, his daughter."},{"start":183.78,"end":185.24,"text":"Those daughters were ."},{"start":187.58,"end":190.6,"text":"Can I have that letter?"},{"start":190.78,"end":192.54,"text":"I don't think you should ."},{"start":192.62,"end":199.47,"text":"Her father, she didn't come because her father said if she came, he wouldn't be seen."},{"start":199.49,"end":202.89,"text":"I wonder if I should ."},{"start":205.15,"end":208.33,"text":"Are you going to come out there?"},{"start":208.55,"end":209.53,"text":"Well, I don't know."},{"start":209.78,"end":214,"text":"Maybe you might want to bring her in here."},{"start":214.02,"end":214.86,"text":"She's a little girl."},{"start":214.94,"end":216.21,"text":"She sticks his pants in."},{"start":216.23,"end":218.07,"text":"Do you think he doesn't be able to stand up?"},{"start":232.9,"end":234.42,"text":"She's very bitter."},{"start":234.46,"end":235.76,"text":"That's why I think your name."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, met to discuss routine administrative matters, including scheduling, personal gifts, and correspondence. The conversation touched upon the President’s upcoming appointments, the delivery of clothing items, and the handling of a sensitive letter from the daughter of Philip F. Timberlake regarding her marriage and family. Woods provided logistical assistance, and the two briefly deliberated on how the President should respond to personal constituent mail.","topics":["Scheduling","Correspondence","Personal Staff","Constituent Relations","White House Administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T23:03:42.178Z"},"topicSlugs":["scheduling","correspondence","personal-staff","constituent-relations","white-house-administration"],"audioDurationSec":263,"audioFiles":[{"file":"881-009.mp3","bytes":1728512,"durationSec":262.96,"bitrate":52586,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:54.774Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/881-009.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/881-009","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/881/conversation-881-009","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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