Nixon, Trapeznikov & Stever on U.S.-Soviet relations

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Mr. Speaker, how are you?

Mr. President, how are you?

Well, thank you.

It's an honor.

Let's see, what are our guests here?

When Mr.

Rush comes, he says that.

I'm sorry to hear about the .

Thank you.

he was

In fact, in addition to the specific agreement that we're working on, the signing of the agreement on science and technology, plus the other initiatives that you've taken, have triggered a great amount of cooperation.

In science, research, exchange of technical data with firms.

That is so that it is, I think, progress.

Thank you, Justin.

And it would seem that in the future we'll have more and more topics of mutual interest that would interest science.

Well, we, by the way, exchange in science is not as spectacular as the

Our connotation, which you're working on now, in the long run is equally important because in the long run it builds for what can happen with the peace in the future.

Of course, the answer to this question is that it is not such a trivial matter as money or weapons.

But still, in the future, I think it is a very important thing, because it is important for the world in the future, and both questions are very important.

And we know what approach you have, and we find that the measures in the future will benefit both the Soviet people and the American people.

This is undoubtedly right, because although sometimes the question arises, who will win more from this, which country, but in fact both countries will win from this.

And, Mr. President, sometimes the question arises which country will benefit from it more, but the fact that both countries will gain

Because both countries are the same powerful countries.

For example, in the field of medicine, as you know, we have a program for cancer.

And we hope that we can find some answers.

But as far as the world is concerned, there are three billion people who live in this earth.

But it is a question of whether an American finds it first or a Russian or somebody in Latin America or Africa.

The whole world benefits.

And we can also, through these fine minds, get together.

There may be

Spanning the oceans.

Spanning the knowledge.

It will be that cooperation we'll find in the future.

And so it is always, the scientific research.

As you know, in the medical field, we spend a lot of capital on the study of cancer.

This is an important issue.

We need to solve it.

And when you look at it, 103 billion people live on Earth.

So it's not the first.

The Soviets, the Americans.

This is absolutely right.

Today we are wasting a lot of minds.

in order to find the means of destruction.

And we need to look for the means of creation, the means of healing, the means of improving the life of a person.

That is right, Mr. President.

However much great power is being spent to find means of destruction.

But we have to apply our mutual efforts.

to save the world, to heal and provide better living conditions for people on Earth.

And we know that you pay a lot of attention to improving the environment, to reducing pollution.

This is also being done in our country.

And you know, Mr. President, that you pay much attention to improving their environment, to reduce pollution of their environment.

And we, too, in the Soviet Union, are concerned with this.

Because as we develop our industry, we pollute our planet more and more.

All these questions, and some of them are being reviewed by Dr. Steven, they all have immeasurable

And, Mr. President, there is a joker statement that we have.

A world of scientists

We could have made a statement which, if we paraphrased, would sound as follows.

We cannot not expect love from nature after what we have done, but...

So we have to improve the same.

And it is a very important task for our two countries and other countries, for those who live on this planet.

And our two countries must play a leading role because both have

And we would like to make our joint work more effective, more practical and useful.

Therefore, we would like to make our joint work as effective as possible and to make it as practical for practical application.

We are starting with basic sciences, but sooner or later, basic sciences lead to practical results, and that's what we are after.

We would like our interactions not to be in the sphere of only meetings and exchanges of kindness, but in the sphere of practical activity, in the sphere of obtaining the desired result.

And therefore, we would like to make our cooperation not just a series of meetings and an exchange of relaxed phrases, but we want practical results that will benefit both countries.

Much work has been done in both countries in preparation for this meeting that we're having now.

That is after your visit to Moscow, sir, and signing of the agreement.

So right now we are summing up the results.

Dr. Stever and I are very pleased with our work and with the cooperation.

What we would like to do is to firmly establish the organizations

and individuals to be appointed who would then cooperate with each other.

And we feel that this way we'll be able to do it more precise and organize our joint work more effectively.

Yes, we are very pleased with the progress.

I think, Mr. President, the best progress is in those areas where we've had our working groups together, working in detail, and some of the points that, in relation to President Obama's May,

The mutual value, I think, will be proven soon, because some of the areas we're taking at, it's very clear that both sides have something to offer, and we can work together, and that ends soon.

Thank you very much.

And today, I'm very happy to be able to work with you.

And how do you want to say it?

distinguished guests that, as I sit here, I think of the fact that this kind of conversation would probably not have taken place a year ago.

As he knows, there have been exchanges between the U.S. and the Soviet Union, but it's mostly been, let's face it, atmospheric, more symbolic than substantive.

Now, after my meetings with the Soviet Union, with the top leaders, and, of course, particularly with Mr. President, we have moved from the symbolism

to the appearance of cooperation.

We've moved now to the heart of substance.

And I know that Mr. President and I share exactly the same goal.

We want results.

I back this program.

I back Dr. Siebert completely.

We want to get to know each other and shake hands and get a glass of vodka.

That's good.

That's happened before.

But we also want to work together with the laboratories and the scientific cooperation to a way that will benefit both people.

Because this is not a question of whether the United States is first, or the USSR is first, and the competition is good.

But in the field of breakthrough in science, in the peaceful area, everybody wins.

So we welcome your successes in this area, just as you welcome ours, because we will share you with us and with you.

That is what the pressure on the next seven

meetings, this historic summit in Moscow, I trust will be remembered for maybe 50 years now, that the two great peoples, the scientific elite, the Soviet Union, the United States finally moved from getting to know each other to working together for progress in peaceful areas.

I would like to say that after the war in the Soviet Union, especially my meeting with Mr. Brezhnev, that we have switched from the symbol of the Holy Trinity to genuine cooperation.

We are now approaching the core of doing genuine, substantial work.

I find that my goal, Mr. Brezhnev,

First of all, so that we have good results.

It's not just that we've met a fire, we've been out of work, but we have to work in the laboratories, we have to work on the necessary things.

And this will be in favor of the Soviet and American people.

And it's not a question of who will be first, the Soviet Union or America, because this is

And I want to say that if there will be such a breakthrough and great achievements in the world region, then it will be good for everyone.

Everyone will find a way to win.

And we, of course, welcome if there will be great achievements, everyone will share it.

And I wanted my meeting

I hope so.

I don't know, I haven't joined in a very long time here.

And this is important, I should say.

Definitely, from what we hear, Mr. President, after you visited Moscow, it's really...

I have a very deep feeling in my country, my people.

I was there for just two weeks ago.

It's really now, after the Second World War, for the first time, there is a difficult...

It's recording deep and deep in all the fields, and including science, which benefits very much each.

If it wasn't for you to say, not only I, Mr. President, if it wasn't for last year, we wouldn't have this, we wouldn't have what we have now, Americans.

So it is a very good example, these two gentlemen, their cooperation is just as much as what we had last month.

We, uh, we, uh, wish you well.

I'm glad you're gonna see the western part of our country.

But there's a, he can't yet, but he will be here in our city.

Where am I?

Uh, California.

Yes, where are you going?

Well, the group will go first to Los Angeles and meet with some industrialists.

Cy Ramo will be a host, and Tex Carton will be a host, and then they will see several industries there, Golden Arm, too.

I think they've had some lines.

Or Salinas.

Salinas.

And to see some agricultural sparrows.

Yes, that's right.

And then on to those two, they'll be in one of your clubs, the Union Club.

And it's got a good trip.

Yeah, it's a good trip.

And it's also in the back of New York.

So that's the end of it.

At the beginning of July, we'll see about the rest of the week.

In fact, Mr. President, we are quite amazed at the number of industries

who have asked to get out of the schedule, we can't accommodate them all.

There's just too many.

They're all rushing to make the push through.

This is a very good sign.

Well, we better.

You got a long trip.

We better get you going.

Thank you, Mr. President.

You worked out the deal, I bet.

Very good.

Thank you.

That's the way we do it.

Well, thank you.

She's got a good dress.

Thank you.

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Sure, sure, sure.

Thank you.

Nixon, Trapeznikov & Stever on U.S.-Soviet relations

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