Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 884 › Conversation 884-021

Nixon & Bull on Citizens for Control of Federal Spending and Time management

Tuesday, March 20, 1973 · 3:19 PM–3:26 PM ET · Oval Office · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation884-021 on Tape 884StartTuesday, March 20, 1973 at 3:19 PMEndTuesday, March 20, 1973 at 3:26 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 884-021 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull reviewed the President’s upcoming schedule to manage meeting durations and logistics. Key discussions focused on limiting a courtesy call from the Citizens for Control of Federal Spending to ten minutes and coordinating the timing of other appointments, including sessions with George H.W. Bush and staff counselors. The President ultimately decided to proceed with the courtesy call, while Bull advised on the scheduling of additional administrative meetings.

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We'll just make that 10 minutes.
Well, I hate that.
That's all I can do.
I can't be bothered having that meeting that soon.
That's what I have to do.
Why is it they don't want to start on the 21st?
So it's recommended that you do this on Thursday.
What a motivation, sir.
Especially here.
It's going to be a nice cooperation.
I'm sure you can't go, but if you do, you know that.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
should really do with this 10 minute courtesy call by the co-chairman and treasurer of the Newly Formed Citizens Committee for Citizens Control of Federal Spain.
Deputy Governor Packer, James O'Zone, and Lynette Burns.
This gives me a courtesy call tomorrow at 12 noon.
You're the officer.
10 minutes max.
Do you want to hold this question in May, sir?
I'll do this thing.

NARA Description

On March 20, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:19 pm and 3:26 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 884-021 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 884-21

Date: March 20, 1973
Time: Unknown between 3:19 pm and 3:26 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       President's schedule
             -Meeting
                    -Press coverage [?]
                    -Amount of time
             -Courtesy call by Citizens for Control of Federal Spending
                    -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                    -David M. Packard, James Roosevelt, John W. Byrnes
             -Meeting with George H. W. Bush
             -John D. Ehrlichman
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                            Conversation No. 884-21 (cont’d)

             -Counselors
             -Haldeman, Ehrlichman
             -Carlos Sanz de Santamaria

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:26 pm.

Also recorded on March 20, 1973

  • 037-169 2:31 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:31 pm and 3:10 pm.
  • 884-018 2:31 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:31 pm and 3:11 pm.
  • 884-025 2:31 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:31 pm and 3:11 pm.
  • 037-170 3:10 PM · 9 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. talked on the telephone from 3:10 pm to 3:19 pm.
  • 884-019 3:11 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:11 pm and 3:16 pm.
  • 884-020 3:16 PM · 9 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:16 pm and 3:19 pm.
  • 884-022 3:19 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:19 pm and 3:26 pm.
  • 884-023 3:26 PM · 59 min — President Richard M. Nixon, George H. W. Bush, Linwood Holton, William T. Cahill, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., unknown person(s), John D. Ehrlichman, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:26 pm to 4:26 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 884-021, March 20, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/884-021 (accessed October 2, 2026).