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Start Date: 22-Mar-1973 11:04 AM

End Date: 22-Mar-1973 11:44 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Santamaria, Carlos Sanz deJorden, William J.[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Oval Office

887-006.mp3

NARA Description:

On March 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Carlos Sanz de Santamaria, William J. Jorden, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:04 am and 11:44 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 887-006 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 887-6

Date: March 22, 1973
Time: Unknown between 11:04 am and 11:44 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Carlos Sanz de Santamaria and William J. Jorden. The White House
photographer and members of the press were present at the beginning of the meeting.

       Greetings

       Photographs

       Santamaria's health

       Latin America
             -Trip by William P. Rogers
             -Trip by President
                    -Scheduling
             -US attention
                    -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                    -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
                    -Europe
                    -Japan
             -Panama
             -Anti-Americanism
             -President's policies
                    -Results
                    -President’s position in US and world
                           -President’s speeches
             -Political issues
                    -Compared to economic issues
                    -Panama
                           -Organization of American States’ [OAS] role
                           -Canal Zone security

An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 11:04 am.

       Refreshment
                                           -5-

                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. July-2010)
                                                           Conversation No. 887-6 (cont’d)



The unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:44 am.

      Latin America
            -Focus on security
                  -Compared to development
                        -Historical changes
            -Role of OAS
                  -Ambassadors
                        -Rogers
                        -Duties
            -OAS
                  -Meeting in Washington, DC
                        -Rogers
                  -Reception for members
                        -President's attendance
                              -Scheduling
            -Trip by president
                  -Demonstrations
                        -Frequency
                              -End of Vietnam War
            -US relations
                  -Ambassadors
                        -Colombia, Brazil
                        -Number
                              -US, United Nations [UN], OAS
                  -OAS
                        -Purpose
                              -Security
                              -Development
                        -Proposed reform
                              -Development agency within OAS
                              -Brazil, Argentina, Mexico
                              -Canada, US
                              -Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development
                                     [OECD]
                        -European model
            -Transformation of OAD
                  -Meeting of foreign ministers
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       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. July-2010)
                                                  Conversation No. 887-6 (cont’d)


       -Purpose
            -Development
                 -Compared to political issues
-OAS
      -Santamaria’s term
             -Resignation
                    -Political disputes within OAS
                           -Mexico, Venezuela, North America
                           -Chile, Argentina
                    -Desire for international cooperation
                           -US role in development
                                 -Capital investment
                    -Delayed departure
      -Nixon Doctrine
             -Application to Latin America
                    -Contacts for President
                           -Mort Sedgwick [?]
      -New approaches
             -Adoption of new policies
                    -Deadlines
      -Santamaria's tenure in office
             -Attitude towards US
      -US relations with Latin American
             -President’s friendship
             -Diversions
                    -Vietnam settlement
             -Core policies
-Panama
      -Political situation
             -Origins
                    -Omar Torrijos [?]
                    -Theodore (“Teddy”) Roosevelt
                    -Acquisition of land
                           -Panama, Colombia
      -Anti-Americanism
             -Effect
-Anti-Americanism
      -Threats to capital investment
      -Threats to security of Latin America and US
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       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. July-2010)
                                                 Conversation No. 887-6 (cont’d)


            -Missiles
            -Conventional warfare
            -Psychological effect
       -Countermeasures
            -Summits
                 -OAS
                 -Alliance for Progress
                 -Preparations
                       -Panama
                       -Bogota
                       -Brazilia
                       -Compared with PRC, USSR
                              -Summits
                                   -Predictable outcomes
-OAS
      -Obsolescence
      -Economic compared to security focus
             -Canada
-Future
      -Institutions
      -Alliance for Progress
             -Age
             -Obsolescence
      -Changes in US foreign policy
             -PRC
                   -Communists
             -USSR
                   -Arms control
             -Southeast Asia
                   -Cease-fire violations
             -Middle East
-Attitude of Latin Americans
      -Philosophical bent
      -Idealism
             -US
                   -Compared to Europe
      -President’s pragmatism
-Meetings between Henry A. Kissinger and Santamaria
      -Exchange of views
                                -8-

      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                        Tape Subject Log
                         (rev. July-2010)
                                                 Conversation No. 887-6 (cont’d)


     -Kissinger’s work on Middle east
     -Importance of Latin America
            -Sentiment
-US-Latin American relations
     -USSR, PRC
     -Changes
            Institutions
     -US aid
            -Issue
            -Conditions
                   -Private investment
                          -Concerns
     -Chile
            -Nationalization of US companies
            -International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]
     -Reexamination of institutions, goals
            -Security compared to economic goals
            -Political goals
            -Need for new organizations
            -Bilateral relations
            -OAS, UN
            -Inter-American Development Bank
            -Speeches
            -Objectives
     -Proposals for reform
-OAS
     -Changes in structure
            -Personnel
                   -Votes
            -Political issues
     -Common goals with US
            -International monetary system
            -Urban development
            -Environment
            -Agricultural production
     -Political issues
            -Law of the sea
            -UN
     -Changes in structure
                                 -9-

      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. July-2010)
                                                  Conversation No. 887-6 (cont’d)


            -Santamaria’s goals
            -Open economics
            -Canada
            -OECD
            -Meeting in Quito
            -Paul Martin [?]
            -Europe
      -Santamaria's speech
            -Topics
                  -Coordination with President’s policies
                  -Alliance for Progress
                  OAS assembly
-Nixon Doctrine
      -Budget
      -Purpose
            -US dominance
            -Self-help
            -Respect for diversity
      -Latin America, Asia, and Africa
            -Economic and social systems
                  -Application of US model
                        -Expectations
-Economic development
      -Need for different systems
            -Agrarian economics
                  -Production of raw materials
                  -Industrialization
                  -Per capita income
-Post-World War II US policy
      -Henry Fairlie's book about John F. Kennedy
      -Attempts to remake world in US image
            -US strength and prosperity
-Nixon Doctrine
      -Purpose
            -Asia
            -US involvement
            -Self-help for other nations
      -Application to Latin America
            -Defense, economic programs
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. July-2010)
                                                             Conversation No. 887-6 (cont’d)


                        -Question of best system
                  -US institutions
                        -Housing
                               -Quality
                        -Education
                               -Problems
                                      -Higher education
                                      -Vocational training
                  -Health systems
                        -Differences among countries
                               -Illness
                               -Vaccinations
                  -Recognition of differences
                        -Housing
                        -Urban policy
                        -Welfare
                        -Hunger
                               -Caloric requirements
                  -Sources of conflict with other nations
                        -Superiority of US
                        -Diversity in US
                        -Respect
                        -Foreign policy
                               -Antagonism
                  -Application to Latin America
                        -Shared geography
                        -Santamaria’s statements
                               -Internal affairs
                                      -Noninterference

       Future meeting with President
             -Timing
             -Santamaria’s schedule
                   -Quito
             -Follow-up

       President’s family

Santamaria and Jorden left at an unknown time before 11:44 am.
                                           -11-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. July-2010)
                                                            Conversation No. 887-7 (cont’d)