{"conversationCode":"887-013","tapeNumber":887,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-887-013","startDateTime":"1973-03-22T17:32:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-22T17:35:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Mar-1973","startTime":"12:32 PM","endDate":"22-Mar-1973","endTime":"12:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Friedersdorf, Max L.; Butler, Caldwell;","description":"On March 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Max L. Friedersdorf, and Caldwell Butler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:32 pm to 12:35 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 887-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 887-13\n\nDate: March 22, 1973\nTime: 12:32 pm - 12:35 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Caldwell Butler and Max L. Friedersdorf. The White House\nphotographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.\n\n       Introduction\n\n       Letters from school children\n             -Presentation to President\n\n       Photographs\n            -Arrangement\n\n       Butler’s election\n             -Community response\n\n       Hardy Road Elementary School\n            -Size\n            -Photographs of Butler and President\n                  -Presentation\n\n       Butler’s schedule\n             -Visits home\n                   -Mode of travel\n             -Dinner\n                   -Jokes\n\nButler and Friedersdorf left at 12:35 pm.","filename":["887-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Friedersdorf, Max L.","Butler, Caldwell"],"prevCode":"887-012","nextCode":"887-014","transcript":[{"start":1.17,"end":3.53,"text":"Well, how are you?"},{"start":4.01,"end":6.05,"text":"Good to see you."},{"start":6.17,"end":8.83,"text":"Good to have you here."},{"start":9.07,"end":11.63,"text":"All the letters from those great kids."},{"start":13.55,"end":22.31,"text":"Finally, that must give you a big thrill."},{"start":22.33,"end":23.19,"text":"Is that right?"},{"start":23.73,"end":25.71,"text":"Is that right?"},{"start":26.63,"end":28.55,"text":"Is that right?"},{"start":36.45,"end":37.93,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":66.89,"end":67.55,"text":"Yeah, that's very great."},{"start":68.51,"end":79.11,"text":"So can we be sure that the – and we'll get a few close copies that you can get out."},{"start":80.29,"end":80.79,"text":"Yeah, that's right."},{"start":80.81,"end":83.03,"text":"We ought to get one for the school."},{"start":83.53,"end":84.27,"text":"How many rules?"},{"start":85.15,"end":88.41,"text":"Well, it's one of those three schools, but it's all over."},{"start":88.65,"end":90.27,"text":"It's about three grades."},{"start":90.33,"end":92.45,"text":"How many schools in three grades?"},{"start":92.47,"end":93.25,"text":"Get a copy of it."},{"start":121.89,"end":129.19,"text":"four hours or do you have a small plane"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Congressman Caldwell Butler and staffer Max L. Friedersdorf to facilitate the presentation of letters from school children and coordinate the distribution of photographs taken during the visit. The discussion centered on fostering community goodwill following Butler’s election and identifying specific needs for Hardy Road Elementary School. The participants concluded by briefly touching upon the logistical arrangements for Butler’s upcoming travel and social schedule.","topics":["Caldwell Butler","Constituent relations","Hardy Road Elementary School","Public relations","Political photography"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T23:12:21.215Z"},"topicSlugs":["caldwell-butler","constituent-relations","hardy-road-elementary-school","public-relations","political-photography"],"audioDurationSec":161,"audioFiles":[{"file":"887-013.mp3","bytes":864256,"durationSec":160.55,"bitrate":43065,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/887-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/887-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/887/conversation-887-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}