{"conversationCode":"887-014","tapeNumber":887,"conversationNumber":14,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-887-014","startDateTime":"1973-03-22T17:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-22T17:47:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Mar-1973","startTime":"12:35 PM","endDate":"22-Mar-1973","endTime":"12:47 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Edwards, William J. (\"Jack\"); Delchamps, Oliver, Jr.; Hearin, William J., Jr.; Weiskopf, Albert; Cook, Richard K.;","description":"On March 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, William J. (\"Jack\") Edwards, Oliver Delchamps, Jr., William J. Hearin, Jr., Albert Weiskopf, and Richard K. Cook met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:35 pm to 12:47 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 887-014 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 887-14\n\nDate: March 22, 1973\n\f                                            -22-\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\nTime: 12:35 pm - 12:47 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with William J. (“Jack”) Edwards, Oliver Delchamps, Jr., A. A. Wood,\nWilliam J. Hearin, Jr., Albert Weiskopf, and Richard K. Cook. The White House photographer\nwas present at the beginning of the meeting.\n\n       Introductions\n             -Edwards\n                   -Mobile, Alabama\n             -Alabama delegation\n             -Delchamps\n             -Wood\n             -Hearin\n                   -Newspaper publishing\n                         -Mobile Press Register\n                         -Republican Congress member\n                   -Press coverage\n                         -1972 campaign\n                               -Editorials\n             -Weiskopf\n                   -Mobile Area Chamber of Commerce\n\n       Photographs\n            -Arrangements\n\n       Tennessee Tombigbee River project\n            -Commemorative coins\n                  -Claude Whistler\n                  -Budget deficit\n                  -Map of river system\n            -Pride in President\n            -Chamber of commerce\n            -Delchamps’s business\n            -Publicity\n                  -Mobile\n            -Dedication\n                  -President’s visit\n                  -George C. Wallace\n                  -Photographs\n\f                                      -23-\n\n            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                     Conversation No. 887-14 (cont’d)\n\nWallace\n     -Recovery\n           -Difficulties\n           -Last meeting with President\n                 -Governors’ dinner\n     -Wife\n     -Mobile\n     -Lieutenant governor\n\nSouthern republicans\n     -John C. Stennis\n     -Trent Lott\n           -Mississippi\n\nStennis\n     -President's calls during convalescence\n           -Frequency\n     -Recovery from wounds\n           -Strength\n\nSouthern Congress members\n     -Support for national security issue, Vietnam\n           -Prisoners of war [POWs]\n           -Support for President's policies\n                       -Sense of pride\n     -Patriotism\n           -Denigration\n           -Mobile\n                 -Capt. Jeremiah A. Denton, Jr.\n\nPOWs\n   -Dinner\n         -Wives\n         -Location\n         -Entertainment\n                -Leslie T. (“Bob”) Hope\n   -Denton\n         -Religion\n   -Qualities, attitude\n   -Solitary confinement\n\f                                               -24-\n\n                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 887-14 (cont’d)\n\n                    -Denton, Col. Robinson Risner\n               -Sense of strength\n                    -Meat prices\n\n       Vietnam settlement\n            -President’s policies\n                  -Congress\n                        -Silence\n                        -resolution\n\n       Edwards\n           -Career in Congress\n                -Leadership position\n                -Unknown people\n                       -Death\n\n       Gifts\n               -Presidential seal\n               -Photographs\n                     -Copies\n                     -Publication\n                     -Copies\n                           -Production\n\n       Basketball game\n\n       Alabama\n            -Support for President\n\n       Edwards’s career in Congress\n           -Possible run for Senate\n\n       Wilbur D. Mills\n            -Trade [?]\n            -President’s telephone call\n            -News summary\n            -President's meeting with George P. Shultz\n                  -Shultz’s meeting with Mills\n\nEdwards et al., left at 12:47 pm.\n\f                                              -25-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 887-14 (cont’d)","filename":["887-014.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Edwards, William J. (\"Jack\")","Delchamps, Oliver, Jr.","Hearin, William J., Jr.","Weiskopf, Albert","Cook, Richard K."],"prevCode":"887-013","nextCode":"887-015","transcript":[{"start":16.14,"end":23.15,"text":"I know, I know."},{"start":44.05,"end":44.53,"text":"uh... uh..."},{"start":68.78,"end":71.66,"text":"You know, we had the... Well, I do say it when I write."},{"start":73.6,"end":77.97,"text":"I think he's done this before."},{"start":78.07,"end":86.23,"text":"You know, when I initiated, much later, we had a conference."},{"start":119.45,"end":120.07,"text":"All right."},{"start":120.09,"end":121.75,"text":"All right."},{"start":138.82,"end":139.46,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":172.99,"end":174.07,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":175.57,"end":176.15,"text":"There he is."},{"start":176.23,"end":177.79,"text":"That's right."},{"start":203.66,"end":207.66,"text":"I saw it in the government."},{"start":209.76,"end":210.44,"text":"It was terrible."},{"start":210.58,"end":218.46,"text":"I don't say that, but he's like, he gets a spark."},{"start":219.02,"end":222.18,"text":"His wife."},{"start":222.22,"end":222.46,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":222.5,"end":223.74,"text":"He's a good soldier."},{"start":223.9,"end":224.34,"text":"He's great."},{"start":224.58,"end":224.94,"text":"He's great."},{"start":225.08,"end":226.7,"text":"I'd love to have him."},{"start":226.94,"end":228.32,"text":"We'll be able to find him."},{"start":228.96,"end":230.14,"text":"We'll be able to find him."},{"start":231.54,"end":232.28,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":256.72,"end":257.06,"text":"I talk to Stennis."},{"start":257.08,"end":257.68,"text":"I call him every week."},{"start":257.7,"end":258.6,"text":"You know, this is the heart."},{"start":258.62,"end":264.02,"text":"And everybody, when I call like that, I say, well, you know, they all call it in certain hours of the week."},{"start":264.04,"end":264.3,"text":"I forget it."},{"start":264.34,"end":268.72,"text":"They forget it most of the time in the weeks, weeks after that."},{"start":268.74,"end":273.52,"text":"So I call him every Monday morning."},{"start":273.62,"end":274.26,"text":"How do you know?"},{"start":274.56,"end":275.17,"text":"And, well, I do exactly."},{"start":275.19,"end":276.09,"text":"I talk to him, too, you know, because he lives."},{"start":276.23,"end":277.73,"text":"When I call him, he says, well, I just wish I could be back."},{"start":277.75,"end":278.05,"text":"I'm a laborer."},{"start":278.43,"end":285.17,"text":"I say, well, we don't need to worry about that."},{"start":288.21,"end":288.57,"text":"Peace out."},{"start":317.08,"end":327.52,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":351.09,"end":361.44,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":389.61,"end":394.63,"text":"As a matter of fact, we are marketing."},{"start":429.49,"end":438.99,"text":"Right."},{"start":441.2,"end":441.8,"text":"Right."},{"start":471.18,"end":486.57,"text":"They came out a little stronger than ever."},{"start":486.63,"end":491.23,"text":"Some people are out here all day."},{"start":536.05,"end":536.99,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":565.52,"end":566.06,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":611.78,"end":613.52,"text":"That's a great picture."},{"start":641.52,"end":645.56,"text":"We also run a national trade competition."},{"start":646.23,"end":648.41,"text":"I see why you're successful."},{"start":648.49,"end":649.81,"text":"It's not great."},{"start":649.87,"end":654.45,"text":"We are always very proud."},{"start":654.61,"end":655.17,"text":"All right."},{"start":655.39,"end":657.42,"text":"Well, he'll see that."},{"start":664.55,"end":667.21,"text":"Well, thank you."},{"start":667.29,"end":670.05,"text":"Well, everybody's been very good."},{"start":670.37,"end":675.6,"text":"Alabama was very good."},{"start":675.68,"end":677.02,"text":"We found a game."},{"start":702.65,"end":707.59,"text":"We're not going to forget that time."},{"start":707.91,"end":709.41,"text":"You know what I mean?"},{"start":709.47,"end":710.13,"text":"When he's ready."},{"start":710.33,"end":712.45,"text":"Don't wait too long."},{"start":712.71,"end":712.91,"text":"Also,"},{"start":730.21,"end":734.17,"text":"Also, Schultz is coming to see me today."},{"start":734.43,"end":738.36,"text":"You follow up with Schultz."},{"start":738.6,"end":744.98,"text":"I'll probably mention it."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Representative Jack Edwards and an Alabama delegation to discuss regional development projects and demonstrate support for his administration’s policies. The participants highlighted the Tennessee Tombigbee River project and exchanged praise regarding the repatriation of prisoners of war, specifically citing the strength and patriotism of Captain Jeremiah Denton. Nixon also used the session to cultivate political ties in the South, discussing the recoveries of Senator John C. Stennis and Governor George Wallace while coordinating legislative outreach through Secretary George Shultz.","topics":["Tennessee Tombigbee River project","Prisoners of War","Alabama politics","George C. Wallace","John C. 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