{"conversationCode":"890-018","tapeNumber":890,"conversationNumber":18,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-890-018","startDateTime":"1973-03-30T16:56:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-30T16:57:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Mar-1973","startTime":"11:56 AM","endDate":"30-Mar-1973","endTime":"11:57 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On March 30, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:56 am and 11:57 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 890-018 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 890-18\n\nDate: March 30, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 11:56 am and 11:57 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n       President's schedule\n             -Meeting with Mr. and Mrs. Roland H. Shackford\n\nZiegler left at an unknown time before 11:57 am.","filename":["890-018.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"890-017","nextCode":"890-019","transcript":[{"start":10.33,"end":11.01,"text":"Oh, hi."},{"start":11.99,"end":14.36,"text":"It might be better to get the shutter thing out of the way."},{"start":14.4,"end":15.94,"text":"Is he here?"},{"start":16.1,"end":16.84,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":16.94,"end":18.17,"text":"Oh, yes, sir."},{"start":18.21,"end":18.83,"text":"Three minutes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler briefly coordinated logistics regarding an upcoming meeting with Mr. and Mrs. Roland H. Shackford. The discussion focused on managing the presence of photographers during the encounter. They established a three-minute timeframe for the photo opportunity before proceeding with the scheduled appointment.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Press relations","Photography","Roland H. Shackford","White House logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T23:16:24.076Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","press-relations","photography","roland-h-shackford","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":26,"audioFiles":[{"file":"890-018.mp3","bytes":184320,"durationSec":25.68,"bitrate":57420,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/890-018.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/890-018","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/890/conversation-890-018","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}