{"conversationCode":"891-005","tapeNumber":891,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-891-005","startDateTime":"1973-04-09T21:39:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-09T22:03:00.000Z","startDate":"9-Apr-1973","startTime":"4:39 PM","endDate":"9-Apr-1973","endTime":"5:03 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Scowcroft, Brent G. (Gen.);","description":"On April 9, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:39 pm and 5:03 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 891-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 891-5\n\nDate: April 9, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 4:39 pm and 5:03 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft.\n\n     Folder on Gen. John B. Flynn\n\nScowcroft [?] left at an unknown time before 5:03 pm.","filename":["891-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Scowcroft, Brent G. (Gen.)"],"prevCode":"891-004","nextCode":"891-006","transcript":[{"start":1.35,"end":3.34,"text":"I said that the folder went out."},{"start":3.36,"end":7.37,"text":"I want to spit it back in my safe to reset it."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and General Brent Scowcroft met to discuss the disposition of a sensitive file concerning General John B. Flynn. The primary focus of the brief exchange involved the secure handling and internal administrative routing of this documentation. The discussion resulted in the retrieval of the file for storage within the President's personal safe.","topics":["John B. Flynn","White House security","classified documentation","administrative procedures","General Brent Scowcroft"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T23:18:43.291Z"},"topicSlugs":["john-b-flynn","white-house-security","classified-documentation","administrative-procedures","general-brent-scowcroft"],"audioDurationSec":14,"audioFiles":[{"file":"891-005.mp3","bytes":436224,"durationSec":13.53,"bitrate":257866,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:06.081Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/891-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/891-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/891/conversation-891-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}