On April 10, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, George A. Goodling, Samuel L. Devine, White House photographer, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:56 pm to 4:42 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 892-016 of the White House Tapes.
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Yeah, I just, uh, can't sit her down for here.
We gotta let her take a picture of us.
That's the Senate's big victory, Mr. President.
The Senate did the unusual thing, and, uh, yeah, the Senate wasn't.
How did that predict it?
I think they should have had a quote, you know what I'm saying?
The Prime Minister is the president.
You get it all, you know, the Senate used to do it.
Our nose count wasn't quite as big as the victory we won, but 50 votes.
189.
Oh, and 163 Republicans and 24 or 5 Democrats.
That's really good.
I mean, we had an amazing defense of these guys, Dan.
I think it's getting the message.
What do you think it is?
You're getting the message?
Well, I think the finest thing you've done in the presidency was your presentation about a week or 10 days ago.
Oh, I think that was a turning point.
Oh, we got several tons of onions that are never with us.
Joe McDade, never with us.
Or Pete Feaster, never with us.
We've got both of them today.
What's your shirt?
He hated to vote again.
His heart was with us, but apparently he had made a commitment.
We understand that.
Just so we, we just don't want him to vote against us when we really have to have him.
I think that was really a turning point, Mr. President.
Your speech is just outstanding.
Where you wrote from the three facets, that middle part we talked about.
It's just as simple as the increase in taxes.
Frank, you're going to vote for us.
Folks are going to decide what you want.
Did it come in?
It sure did.
Good.
Yeah, yeah, they support you, that's right.
They're sensible people there.
You've got sensible people in your district, too.
I wrote, I made a speech against the reaper, or re-instating the reaper, and some of my people told me, I'm nuts.
You're a whore, you've been a whore all your life.
And it didn't react against me.
I had about two or three letters, opposing my standing on a reaper.
It didn't hurt.
As long as you tell people the truth,
Well, I think you have to do that.
You know, I think a lot of the guys basically are...
I thought, I always said, remember, Sam, one time we had a meeting, and I said, I'm the Renato Lafresche.
I'll take it fresh.
Real well.
That's a great advice.
I got that in here.
I talked to him a lot and I said, you know, I've never known of a man who can be defeated for other reasons, but I've never known him to be defeated for sustaining the veto.
You know, they don't do that.
For any, any, any, that is not an issue.
I mean, people know that there's a difference in opinion.
But it is a classic.
You watch those things.
Yes.
You know this group that meets with me informally about once a month.
We call them the Republic Raiders.
They're a good category.
We would include about 37 of the 43 or 44 Republicans in that unit.
So far.
Yes.
I said, well, I talked to him over the weekend.
He has retired as the managing editor, and I'm not sure, but he still is on the board.
And he said that any of that I saw, he would tell you that he would stand ready to be helpful to you in any way that he could be helpful out across the country.
He has a lot of time on his hands, and yet he maintains an interest in the...
That's big on the board, the newspaper.
He's been a great supporter for about 20 years, ever since 1952.
Oh, I know.
Well, he's been...
I went out in 1956 when I was vice president.
I went out to that wigwam.
Yes, that's right.
I was out there studying.
It's new, they say now, but I just love that man.
Well, he's not looking for a job for pay, but he said he'd go and he'd be able to just let you know.
Yeah.
Did you care to have me set aside while you and George discussed your affairs?
No, I mean, I don't want to stop you.
Just whatever George would like to do.
Well, let me say this to begin with.
Maybe I should say that.
I want to make sure you understand.
I have not talked to you, and I haven't talked to Scott or anything about it, and I won't, because of the fact that
that what happens to David, he's got to be his own man, you know.
And I don't want any oppression in his head, but because his father, his grandfather was the president, his father-in-law, he's, you know, stopping anything like this.
So I just want you to know that I appreciate that you all talk to him, but you've got to, with all respect, whatever decision you all make, you know.
Well, Mr. President, I've got a decision to make, and I've been carrying this decision around for a long, long time, right?
and I would like your advice on it also.
I'm going to be 78 years old when this turns out.
You told me that one of the last times we met, you were that much older.
And you said you were going to be 77 or anything.
I was going to be 78 then.
I'm going to be turning.
That's great.
Well, that's why he's been going.
But, I mean, David came out to see me.
And I think he's interested in this job.
But I think I should tell you also that when you're standing for it, and my district, I know everybody wants to run.
Everybody wants to run.
All they want me to do is start a state, and they're going to come out of the way.
Scott's the most administrative assistant I can stand on.
Yeah, Martin Hamburg.
Well, I'm not that sure if the people up there are going to buy him, because he's more or less of a garbage bagger.
He just moved into the district.
He's basically pretty much on the liberal side, too, I think, a little bit more than that district is.
David, you know, is a, at least I, from what I have been able to see, I don't try to influence him too much, but he could be a member of your conservative bloc.
I mean, Kershaw would probably be the best record of supporting him on both of us.
That's what he's saying.
Well, Sam and I, we're pretty close together when it comes to voting.
What do you think?
How do you feel about it?
What do you tell me?
What's your price?
Well, I told Sam, and I'm telling you this confidently, I made up my mind to retire.
I remember Joe Martin.
I don't want to be a Joe Martin.
You waited too long.
You waited too long.
Well, maybe you haven't waited too long.
I guess a fellow never knows when you've waited too long.
That's the whole point.
That was a sad thing.
I wasn't a little lost.
I just broke my heart.
Charlie won.
And it's a sad thing that Charlie lost.
Of course, Charlie...
I've seen other people who have waited too long.
I don't want to be that one.
One of the biggest margins I've ever won.
Great.
Do you like the top or do you want to put on top?
I want to put it on top, right in the bottom.
It's the toughest hit for me.
Hey, Sam keeps telling me to go home and wither away.
And I tell him I'm not going to do it.
I'm not going to wither away.
I'm going to keep busy.
Well, here's the problem.
I guess that all the folks have got to...
We've got to sort of think of people in mind.
It must be a relevant decision.
Let me say, as far as I'm concerned, of course,
And we just love having you here and your votes.
And the main thing I would like to see is to, apart from that, actually, I think David's a great political property owner.
He's just not used to it.
That's quite a boy.
Oh, he's a lot more than just a boy.
He's quick and he's conservative.
I suppose the reason is the kid has grown up.
He's grown up, you know, in the White House with his great-grandchildren.
grandfather, his father, you know.
Was Julie such an asset to you?
Well, Julie is not such an asset.
Well, she's so much fun.
She's a killer.
Oh, she is excellent.
She's nice.
She's a terrific candidate.
She spoke up in our district.
She has a little bit of you and a little bit of Pat.
Yeah.
All the charm of the world.
Yeah.
Answers the question properly and humble, which is just terrific.
Yeah.
So the thing is that my guess is that he liked you a little better.
He told me this, the only thing he didn't tell me, he said that he'd heard that Hanover was going to run anyway, you know what I mean, whether you got out or not.
And he told me, he said, well, he said, I don't want you to know, he told me, he says, under no circumstances will I run unless Mr. Goodwin runs.
Unless he doesn't, because that's the way he put it.
He said, first, I don't want to run against an incompetent.
Second, I don't want to run against somebody that's voted for your program.
He said, I'm in the issue.
So at least you have him, you have a fellow that's not active, you know what I mean?
He says, it's up to you.
He will not take it on.
There was some, I think there was apparently, you had talked to him, somebody had talked to him, or they were talking about some possibility that whatever your decision is, that he's working in your office or something like that, that I don't know.
No, we didn't discuss that at all.
I told him, somebody told me that if I do step aside and he decides to run, he would be in a far better position to be living out there.
in Maryland, in my opinion.
Well, the point is, if he works in Washington, that's the point.
If he works here, he has to live in this area.
And what he can do is to then take a place up there, too.
I think that's what he might agree, if he works.
But if he don't, but if he, his problem there, what would he do if he were up there?
Yeah, he's got our living.
He's got our living, and there isn't any other.
So, uh, but, uh,
My guess is the strongest opposition is not going to be Martin Hamper.
A man who tried to defeat me last year spent $50,000 or $75,000.
He hasn't missed a day since.
He's been canyoning.
Republican?
Yeah.
He's been canyoning.
He's been canyoning.
He spent $50,000 or $75,000.
He had a great organization.
But he had never done anything in politics before.
But now he's working like a beaver.
He was in the committee of elected presidents or re-elected presidents.
Oh.
Oh.
Mr. President, I think, uh, one thing that I'd like to see your advice on is this.
He's made the decision to go back to the White House, of course, but I bet he hasn't.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And George is going to ask you, as not as president, but as probably the most knowledgeable politician in the country, on timing of an item such as this.
And George Soros felt that he shouldn't involve himself in the primary.
He steps aside that McDavid should run in others' way.
In fact, if your black son had more than anything else, it's a tough one.
Now, you don't know whether your son is a passionate gunner or not.
No, I do not.
What I'm doing now, Mr. President, I've got a dozen phone calls you could imagine.
Oh, I know how it is, Jim.
I've got ten and a half ones to make up my mind.
And that you won't pick up your mind until then, and you'll make, in other words, the way you do it, actually, you and I know how we do these things, like when you decide to run, you made up your mind two years before, but you don't announce it two years before, right?
And that's what you should do now.
If I say this, and I think you're wise to do this, don't sit here in your own mind and not pick up your mind, and then have them pick you to pieces.
Heckler, that's wrong.
But if you make up your own mind at this point, then you can sort of chart the course for others.
Now as to what you should do, as to what you should do, it would seem to me that... You see, you got this problem.
You said, you don't, you will not announce, as I understand, let's think about it, let's figure it out.
You should, on a normal circumstance, you should announce it.
When does the file get up there?
Early March.
So you've got about nine months.
Okay, you don't say it until then.
Well, shortly before then, you would say, say early, say January, February, you'd say, well, I don't, I don't, I don't, five is what it is, ten.
In the meantime, although I suppose you would have to anticipate that a lot of the guys would,
would, uh, some people, some people would probably indicate their intention to run.
Would they?
Well, yeah, as long as, or I, they would.
Now, now, how would you react to that?
That's the thing you've got to cross, that bridge you've got to cross.
What do you say when they say that?
They say, oh, I'm going to run.
I'm not, I'm not trying to, I'm just trying to correct me.
Just figure the questions out before I'm done.
I'm trying to say, uh, I'm trying to say, I'm going to make a decision later.
Right.
And you would say that I, well, I welcome the ambitions of a young person, but I'm not going to say anything.
And he is in a position where I think he would not announce anything.
I'd like to get your feeling on this.
You see, since he doesn't want to oppose anybody who has supported the president, he won't do it.
He would, I think, probably want to say that
probably say that he, he would not say that he wasn't, I think he would probably have a job.
He's evidently had to have a job in probably, I don't know, something like the National Security Area or something of that sort.
But then, he, if I were to ask him, I would say, well, you get up to that district and get well-known and all that sort of thing.
If he could, but he wouldn't, he couldn't take the move into the district, actually.
He couldn't move physically into the district.
without it being really a declaration for us in a fight.
So I think we've got to keep him out of the district until you announce that reminder.
How does that sound to you?
You say, well, no, no, I don't need him.
I need Libby.
Now, he can go out and carry a lot.
He can go out and say, I'll speak at the Rotary Club, or he can go, Julie can do the Women's Republican Group in New York, and you know, all that sort of thing.
And they just do it in terms of David says, they said, well, you better run, David.
He said, well, I'm
not the present time I haven't made up my mind, is in defense of what Mr. Goodling does.
I think that's your key, right?
In defense of what Mr. Goodling does.
How's that sound to you?
I'm not going to go.
He says, I'm looking into the matter.
I'm interested, of course, but I would not oppose Mr. Goodling in the primary.
And that leaves you without being, frankly, named up.
Well, Sam and I were discussing another matter on the way down here.
I'd like your advice on this.
When I make an announcement not to run, would it be smart for me to not endorse anybody?
That's the decision.
You know what I would do?
What I would do?
I'd cross that bridge if I could.
I would say this, that at that time,
Obviously, if your son were to get into the race, you couldn't begin to say, endorse anybody else.
If, for example, it came down to, say, somebody like David against somebody that you didn't think was his representative in the district, you might want to endorse him.
Or we might be better off to say that I'm not embarrassing you, but I can then quietly give your support.
Sometimes the best way to do that, the best way, what did you say, Sandra?
The best way is to don't have the table.
Particularly your table.
I lost him in a line with George Goodwill in all these years.
Is he?
I think that with that, the best advice I can give is that you and politics want to do it.
I would say first, in your case, I would not tell them, I just said to say I'm not going to make a decision until just before final date.
And everybody said, well, you know, we're not so sure.
I mean, Amber announced that he was going to announce it, so that's all right.
As far as David is concerned, my advice to him would be that he get away with the district and so forth, but that he not move in.
I mean, that he's not aware of that.
So it's so clear that he's going to run that.
He's actually declared, you know what I mean?
What he does, he can campaign without declaring.
Would you agree with that?
Yes, if George continues to act like he can, because he's putting on his newsletters, he's doing everything he can to campaign.
Yeah, but what would you have they to do?
And I think what I'd rather perhaps have him do is to perhaps, the best thing for him to do would be to get some position.
He worked one year.
with the Senate Judiciary Committee, you know, with Wally Johnson.
And possibly, possibly if maybe you could do a little check with Sam quietly about it.
He'd be a hell of an asset to a committee, you know, to a, you know, something.
Well, my view, something there.
So he could be down and get the feel of the Congress and the House.
Now, my view is that he should probably not get a
physical residence there separately until he announces it.
Now I've got an apartment in Gettysburg or what have you.
And then maintain a mail dropper or what have you in the district, which is what we all do if you don't want to worry.
I was at the hospital.
I'll keep it.
There are many states over there.
I stayed at the 40th Street Congressional Hotel right there on the hill.
Your wife stayed at home?
Yeah.
I think that's the best thing, don't you, that you, that you, let me say it, that
And I also think people, let me say, as far as David is concerned, as to where he lives, I mean, I want to be sure you understand what I'm saying.
He has not bought a house and will never buy anything in America.
But he does not, and he's very right, he and Julie do not just want to live in a White House because he couldn't then run for, I said, well, he lives in a White House and run it for office.
It looks like a pure, pure nepotism.
He planned his renting environment.
This is basically a, it's a two-bedroom house in the nature of land, which my friend Robozo had covered the best.
He would live there until, this would be Mike, he lived there, working in the cabin and worked the district on weekends and evenings.
I mean, not announcing it.
How would that sound to you as a client?
Well, that would sound fine to me, and I think that's the way.
I'm going to continue to tell people I have.
I've made up one mind.
Right.
And I just keep asking.
That's what I tell everybody.
Otherwise, you're retiring now.
That's right.
As Sam said, I'm going to work right down to the last minute.
That's what you want to do.
And I can't wait to keep everybody guessing.
I think that's a good plan, that's a good plan.
But I, and they, you know, because he, I've talked to him too much, because I was in California, and he came back and put some report here.
So I let him work it out.
You know, and I kind of grew up, you can't come up to even, even a boy, you can say, boy, he has to be 25, 26.
But anyway, and he's, but he didn't reach his own conclusion.
He says, I will not run against Mr. Ruff.
He said, I would like to run.
And he says, I feel like it went.
But he says, I think I ought to work in Washington to get the people killed.
And I think he's right about that.
If he gets a job in Gettysburg now, he ain't going to learn anything up there on Washington.
The politics is basically here.
And then he could work here.
And then you won't hurt him, of course.
And he won't hurt you.
have you announced that he will at that time, you made your decision.
And my view is he would announce, I shall be a candidate, period.
Now, until that time, obviously, there will be a lot of speculation that he's going to run, and people will say that there's war and the rest, and he won't be able to control it.
That won't bother you, just provided nobody's campaigning.
That's the way I think the thing would sort out.
He impressed the people that Sam told me.
You talked to him since he was up to my house.
Yeah, I talked to him.
I wanted to have him there, and she's smart.
She thought he was hiding it.
And he leaves my office, and he stays out and talks to my staff.
And he sold himself to her.
She had a completely different idea of David than she had before.
Because she had adapted.
And he read it on him.
So he looked at that and said, I'll be ready.
And the picture that you had taken at Christmastime.
Let me ask you this, as a way to sort of work on things.
I personally want David to get in there.
a miserable primary, but I guess Stevens is going to run, and Amber is going to run.
It will be a primary.
If they have one, he could win it.
Oh, I would think that if David and Joey up there campaigning, they'd be up there.
Particularly if there were more than two of them.
Well, there's going to be more.
I mean, we have a man, a friend of mine, a young Republican.
He had announced two years ago against me, but then he withdrew, and I made my announcement.
I didn't.
I waited a long time then.
But he's not going to have any money to spend.
The thing is, I was wondering if you guys should stay one step removed from it.
I think you've got to stay one step removed from the whole deal.
Oh, yes.
I wonder if maybe Sam, George Bush's children, Harry Monty Harrison, George Bush, and people like that and so forth, if you have complete confidence in Sam.
Absolutely.
I mean, I wonder, Sam, if you would mind, uh, maybe having a chat with David.
And, uh, or is that proper?
Oh, certainly.
And, uh, say, David, here's what you ought to do.
And, uh, what I would suggest that you say to him, what I would suggest is to say that Mr.
Billing came in and we had a talk.
And, uh, that, uh, we believe that the, and that he is not going to announce his intentions.
until the first of the year, that under the circumstances, however, that others are going to get into the race, and David should, in order to have his options open.
should not announce, should indicate that he isn't going to make a decision, he isn't going to decide, if Mr. Goodley becomes a candidate, but in the meantime, he wants to get acquainted in his district, in his own district, and all that sort of thing, and he'll be appearing there in the meantime, too.
He will be working in Washington, and so forth.
Then when Mr. Goodley makes his announcement, then David will say, well, fine, since he is not going to go, I, David Eisenhower, am going to announce, and then he gets his tail up there, and
and one gets his apartment and goes off.
I have a big confidence in Sam.
I like his tale of battle every time I come, but I still have to speak to him about his battle.
I'll tell you a place.
Oh, that's so great, you know.
You still did well.
Oh, yeah, very.
You did it pretty hard.
Yeah, I did a great job.
Where is your farm?
Which farm?
Make my South York.
South York Hotel.
Loganville.
It's on Route 111, or what was it, Route 111?
I know so many little towns.
They're very nice towns.
Nice people.
How many towns are in your district, did you say, about towns or villages?
I've forgotten.
How many are there?
25?
More.
More towns.
See, the biggest city is York.
Where do you have them?
I bet it's 50,000 in York.
York's 50, yeah.
See, if your biggest city is 50,000 in your district, you've got a lot of small towns.
I do.
So that's the only professional district in which I live, which is Whittier.
Elm Harbor is the biggest city.
It was 35,000.
So it was a city of, and Bologna was about 25,000.
Whittier was 20,000.
It's a great, great district to run in.
You've got that kind of a district, you know.
You're, of course, the big city.
In fact, we call it the best mover of counties, also.
It's fun.
The different folks aren't big.
Oh, they sure are.
It's country folks, but I call it the country folks.
That's it.
I've got a good district.
I mean, good people up there.
You've got them all.
Solid.
Yeah, rock solid.
See, George has been a widower for 19 years.
He's got all the hours of a widow chasing him.
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How does that sound to you as the plan?
I think that was my idea.
What do you think would be a good place for him to work?
He's independent, so hold on.
I think he ought to work in the hills.
because he could work in the committee.
Well, you see, he has not been.
He has not been.
He's not a lawyer.
At the end, it's too late for him to be a lawyer.
After a kid's been in service a few, three years, you know, I mean, why should he go into law school when he's 29 years old?
Well,
He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he went to Amherst.
Yeah, he went to Amherst.
He has a very good intelligence.
He's basically, you know, being in our services area.
That would help him in that district.
Agriculture, he's done a lot of agriculture.
I remember he was in an agriculture district.
Commerce, he would know something about.
We have transportation, we have communication, we have health, we have power, and all this is not accomplished.
Transportation, of course, he was a human being, you know, and he knows that backwards and forwards, of course, everything that has to do with that kind of communication and so forth.
Well, it's, I don't know, whether there's something, but listen, that's not your problem.
He can get it.
You know, it's really a tragedy that, in a sense, the best thing that he could really do would be to go out and work at the CIA, because he was the top intelligence man on the ship.
as a lieutenant, and he'd be terrific at the CIA, but I think under that anarchism law,
You know, Bobby Kennedy, you know that darn Bobby Kennedy?
They appointed him, and then they all got through a bill that you couldn't appoint anybody who was irrelevant.
You see, President Eisenhower's son worked for him.
He was his aide in office.
And I see why.
I mean, you saw my dentist buddy.
He could trust right close to you.
He would have done.
But I think David is ruled out for that.
He really over-exaggerated.
He said, hey, maybe I better check that.
Not the FBI.
The CIA is the... Oh, I don't know.
Yeah, that's right.
He just needs a job.
He'd probably be better on the Hill, wouldn't he?
That's right.
Would you think better on the Hill?
Well, they've done a lot of work.
I don't think he could do it.
He'd be awful good at it.
working with Michael.
He said, this guy is a great guy to inspire candidates to get on.
That's the name of this team.
He's the very first to do it.
He could go out and do, he could do colleges and universities and all that sort of thing.
He's great with the kids, great with the kids.
I don't know what they have in the way.
I had six counties around my area.
We had Burr, Davidson, Davidson Law, New York County, Pennsylvania.
I had seven.
I'll be very happy to talk to David any time that I'd like to contact you.
I think it's best, basically, if you think about it, for him to talk to Sam, rather than directly... Yeah, I mean...
It looks otherwise, or could you say if you disagree, because otherwise it may look as if you and I have got it together and nobody would believe you haven't made a deal.
I think it's better for us to say, yes, we've chatted.
You told me about your plans.
And I said, well, I certainly will.
And that's the thing.
We need your role.
And we need to be lined up.
And David will make his own plans.
How does that sound to you?
I think that's the ideal way to get Sam.
You know, I haven't seen David for a long, long time.
That's right.
I haven't seen him.
But he's a fine young man.
And that's that.
Yeah.
That won't hurt.
I think that's the way it's done.
You know, finally, I think probably when you feel it's time to make an outbreak, let the president know.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You ought to come in.
Because I do do that and say I decided to do that.
I'll say, well, thank you very much.
I heard Victor take it.
No one's hurt.
And we...
And then let's decide.
I think you should decide then whether you should endorse or stay out.
My view is that you're probably better advised to say, look, I'm not going to get in this primary, but I'm going to work for the winner, whoever it is.
And in the meantime, quietly let your friends know who you're following.
Meanwhile, he'll just maintain the image that he will probably be a candidate.
You can tell Dave tomorrow if you want to.
I've made up my mind.
We told you weeks ago.
We could say that today.
Well, you can tell me.
He'll keep it totally confidential, but I'd rather have you tell him that than me.
All right.
As a matter of fact, if you can make it, if you can catch him after you leave, maybe today or something, or tomorrow.
Yeah, I'd like this whole thing kept confidential.
Oh, yeah, it'll be kept confidential.
I'll just continue to tell people on my own.
I'll make up my mind.
Yeah, you'll say, I'm going to make a decision for January, or February.
Yeah.
But, uh...
You may have time for others to decide what they're going to do.
In the meantime, let them all run.
I just think about this.
I want to see you coming out of the White House and start what you're going to say.
You know, they had me and Sam come in the last Friday.
Looking for the FBI, yeah.
They had Paulson.
No, that's a lie.
No, I'm getting serious.
Who did?
No, well, Sam.
You should not do the FBI.
I'm going to tell you why.
I don't want you to indicate that you're not interested.
Basically, we've got to get the FBI somebody who's now going to have non-political and get a guy that will play the game around.
You know what I mean?
There's nobody in the FBI that I can go to the top job.
I haven't told them that.
But there's so much not coming in there.
They all hate each other.
These other guys are all right at each other's throats, all seeking a top job.
Hoover never brought any one man up, except Clyde.
Clyde.
So you see, Hoover has not a successor, as Joel.
So the point is, and I think you should know, and I played this game deliberately, they voted out a couple of the judges.
Both of whom are potentially good candidates for him.
I mean, they're not candidates, but could be considered Rizzo, Mayor of Philadelphia, and some in Florida, and the rest.
And when they mentioned these names to me, and they said, what should we do?
I said, don't knock any of them down.
I said, everybody that's in the region, it's going to take me a month to decide it anyway.
I've got a lot of weight on the police side.
And then I told, I told the secretary, I said, throw him to behind stand.
So that.
You forget you size it?
Oh, I'm not the whole center.
You could say, well, you're complimenting the thing about it, but your funding is taken from Congress and so forth.
Because the Democrats, last year, as you work, I didn't consider it.
I knew that if I put you up there, they'd say, next year, this appointment ain't political, Ronnie, for this job.
You'd do a terrific job, but it wouldn't work.
I hope.
I'm glad to know where it came from.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Because yours, he had it backwards.
He's the prosecuting attorney.
Wouldn't you like him to direct you to FBI?
Absolutely.
A lot of us have been navigated, sir.
You're going to get a letter for about $106,000.
We probably better guess.
I kill that.
Come at that, Tom.
Don't, don't you?
That's a merchant.
And if he does it for us, and that, and the...
It's never harmful for a man to be considered for a job.
And he doesn't feel he should be considered.
And when we do make him, I don't have it set aside.
that, uh, that, uh, yes, he considered a number of them, and Devine was one of those problems that he, that he preferred to be in the Congress, but we'll put it on the basis that, uh, that, uh, that, uh, we wanted to complete, you know, all of the targets and find him all that jazzed.
I was worried it couldn't be confirmed because I'm a child of Canada's ass, and I've never said it out for so long.
It's good to confirm it anyway, Scott.
That's right, too.
Oh, sure.
We've got a brand new apartment.
We've got to look at the leadership in the House, too.
It's less than several months older than I am.
It's less older than you are, don't you?
Yeah, just less than a year.
Mr. President, I'm the third oldest Republican in the Congress.
Your day has cost me, in less than just about a month or two, I think, less than eight months.
You're going to be 77 in September.
You will be 77.
I will be 77 in September, in less than, what, 77 in a week or two, I don't know.
Well, he's great, James.
Well, I saw him today at the, I saw him today at the, uh, leadership meeting.
He bounced around in there.
Good day.
He always looks like you.
He's got that good look.
He plays golf and you paddle ball.
Yeah.
Well, I appreciate it.
But he always gets drinks for the girls.
He's a hero in your office, isn't he?
Is this Rose Marywood City?
No, Rose Marywood.
No, Harry McLaughlin talks about her all the time.
I don't talk to her in the telephone.
That's right.
We want to see Rose this time if we can.
So I just buzzed for a couple of times.
Now, this is Mrs. Yates, who worked at the service center.
Rose Marywood, she's my private secretary.
It's just one door down here.
with her own staff, she's got, you know, she does all the private stuff.
Harry's a great guy.
He's a great guy.
He's a great guy.
For our side.
For our side.
And he puts me, what could you, so that you, Sam, would you mind if we would, because I'd like to get David pointed at her, so that, you know,
Everybody talking in my mind.
Did you see him in the light?
Did you come together?
Did you go back?
Did you go back?
I can put you next to David.
I think it would be well to get David so that the State Chamber
Uh, Mr. You know, Mr. Goodland, don't you?
Sir, how are you?
Well, he said he wanted to meet you.
He said he wanted to see you because Harry McLaughlin's always talking about you.
He's talking about you all the time.
He sees me every weekend.
We talk over the telephone.
It's a pleasure meeting you, sir.
Well, Mr. Goodland asked to meet you.
Harry's one of our best friends.
We want to load these calls up with things for you.
How are you doing?
I've got three girls and one man.
There it goes.
Two girls and one man.
One man.
All right.
And how many girls have you got in here?
I have five and one.
I'll give you some more.
These are the little, these are the seal of the president, you see, with a bow.
Sure, yeah.
These are the presidential couplets.
Now, let's see.
Now, let's see.
You've got a complex on there.
No, I don't have any complex.
Well, for gosh sakes, we'll get you something.
Another thing I want to give you.
That's a paperweight.
Now, Rose, tell them to bring in the new complex, the special one.
You may want to look for your wife.
No, I don't.
You have a special girlfriend?
Yes.
All right.
You've got a tight end there.
That's what that is.
No.
Is it?
All right.
There's your loose.
Thank you, Mr. President.
These are rat knives.
These are the new customers.
of the seal of the flag of the president.
Throw me a big envelope.
See that?
See, that's the seal in color.
I'm going to get one of us, each one of us, and peel it up to someone else.
Oh, that's right.
Thank you very much.
I've already given you one.
Sam, give it to Richard.
What I'll do is you can bring it.
Well, who's driving the car?
It's George's car.
I was driving it, so I can get a cab back for him.
George, do you want to get outside or whatever?
No, he should go back.
I want to catch him over here.
And he can get a cab back.
I'll get you a cab back.
I may have just left him in the car, I guess.
He really is a very good doctor.
He has me rockin' on it.
All right.
And here you go, everybody.
Next.
within the next few months.
It's not our last Sunday to come to church, Sunday.
Fine.
But when we have time, we're going to add a few in.
Good.
All right.
I'll see you then.
Thank you.
We'll see you.
I'll see you early tonight.
We have a party for all people in Puerto Rico.
530.
530.
Say it in front of Rose.
Yeah.
Would you call and ask David to come over here, please?
We haven't got time for this yet.
I wrote a letter to Vance.
Oh yeah, I wrote it to Vance.
But you'll get a letter.
They'll all deliver the second one.
It's my own letter.
It's my own letter.
Let's see, I don't know if you can, why don't you, if you get here, get George at the conference.
Where is the conference?
George is outside the, yeah, the entrance.
I'm out of this door, George.
You go out there, George, and you come back in here, and I'll put you in a place.
All right.
I'll see you in a place.
This way, George.
This way.
Do you want me to come back here?
Yeah, come right back in.
All right.