Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 893-005
Date: Wednesday, April 11, 1973 at 10:00 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Graham, William F. ("Billy")
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/893-005

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[0:03] Well, I finally caught up with you.
[0:06] I'm just fine.
[0:07] But I guess it was about Sunday.
[0:10] I called you, and you were on your way.
[0:11] And then you were on your way.
[0:13] They said, oh, no, you were on your way from Montcrete to Charlotte.
[0:18] And after that, you got to Charlotte.
[0:20] They told me you were on your way to Pittsburgh.
[0:22] I called you.
[0:22] You said, next time you're on your way from Pittsburgh to Charlotte again.
[0:26] So I said, all right, I'll try.
[0:41] You get my two tables on your press card?
[0:43] Well, well, I'll be out of that.
[0:47] I was surprised that the press here didn't even see through, you know.
[1:13] And he does that.
[1:49] I can't believe they could let me have my new receiver.
[1:57] Yeah, yeah.
[1:57] I remember, yeah, when I was there, 53.
[2:00] And I've been there since 67 again.
[2:20] Well, I appreciate it very much.
[2:55] Well, I appreciate it.
[2:56] We will continue to hammer away.
[3:00] We've got to expect, Billy, you know, you have to expect the opposition to sort of take away because you're not beating them so badly in November.
[3:12] They've just got to recover.
[3:14] So that's all right.
[3:14] We've got East and Vietnam moving along with some other things, and that's what history's going to remember us for.
[3:25] Yeah.
[3:29] Sure.
[3:30] Oh, we'll let him know.
[3:32] He'll take away, he'll make, there's a lot of headlines, he'll irritate a lot, but those things also pass.
[3:38] The main thing about those, of course, is you know that they're campaign people, I'm sure you're quite honest with me, but they sometimes do silly things.
[3:58] Yeah, no, I know that.
[3:59] I know.
[3:59] I got a higher regard to that.
[4:34] Tell me this, Billy, is he a lawyer, you know?
[5:19] Yes, I know it works for our manner.
[5:24] But he said he would.
[5:25] When did he tell you this?
[5:26] About a month ago, wasn't it?
[5:29] Yeah.
[5:29] Right.
[5:35] Right.
[5:36] Right.
[5:40] Great.
[5:41] Incidentally, we're having Dr. Hill Sunday.
[5:48] And we just hope he doesn't try to make us make a civil rights call.
[5:53] The point is, I don't think he should talk about, naturally, about equal rights and such, but nobody should ever use that forum for the purpose of propaganda and all.
[6:02] Yeah.
[6:02] Tell him that we've got...
[6:17] and everybody be watching him.
[6:21] Yes, sir.
[6:23] Okay.
[6:24] Well, it's good to talk to you.
[6:25] Appreciate your help and your support.
[6:29] Maybe hers a little more, you know.
[6:38] He'll be great, though.
[6:40] He's a great fellow.
[6:41] Great guy.
[6:44] Right?
[6:45] I know he was...
[6:56] And, you know, it was hard for me, I can tell you, but I knew we had to do it.
[7:03] Or Ramsey Black, either.
[7:05] Well, it's really good to talk to you.
[7:09] And we did try to reach an audience.
[7:10] Why don't you know it?
[7:12] The White House operator was calling in, and I'd be at the dinner or something.
[7:16] But anyway, we'll be seeing you.
[7:25] I appreciate the knowledge, but you need to call now.