Conversation: 893-010
Prev:  893-009 Next: 893-011Start Date: 11-Apr-1973 11:05 AM
End Date: 11-Apr-1973 11:50 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.; Bull, Stephen B.; [Unknown person(s)]; Recording Device: Oval Office
NARA Description:
On April 11, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:05 am to 11:50 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 893-010 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 893-10 Date: April 11, 1973 Time: 11:05 am - 11:50 am Location: Oval Office The President met with John D. Ehrlichman. Pending legislation, teenage wage differential -George Meany -Peter J. Brennan -Support for legislation -Ehrlichman’s conversation with Brennan -Deal making -Chances with Congress -Teenage wage differential -Frederick B. Dent -Criticism of Brennan -John N. Erlenborn -Public statement -Administration proposals -Meany -President’s advice to Brennan Watergate -John N., Mitchell’s call to Ehrlichman -Settlement of suit -Robert S. Strauss -Approval by Mike Mansfield, Carl B. Albert, and Sam J. Ervin, Jr. -Conversation with Maurice H. Stans -Lawrence F. O’Brien, Jr. -Settlement -Settlement of suit -Stans’s position -Leonard Garment -Meeting with Ervin Committee staff, April 10, 1973 -Ervin Committee -Hearing schedule -John J. Sirica’s delay in sentencing James W. McCord, Jr. -20- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. February-2011) Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d) -Compared to Whittaker Chambers case -Alger Hiss’s response -Ervin Committee -Slander of defendants -Garment’s role -Leaks -New York Daily News -McCord’s testimony corroborated -Jeb Stuart Magruder -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman -Ehrlichman’s meeting with Ervin -Chambers case -Hiss -Function -Garment’s opinion of committee staff -Plans -Donald H. Segretti -Campaign finance -Fred D. Thompson -Howard H. Baker, Jr. -Samuel Dash -Effect of McCord’s testimony -Mitchell -Frederick C. LaRue -News story -Funds -Source -W. Clement Stone [?] -Gordon C. Strachan -Reporting of expenditure -Return to Stans -La Rue -John W. Dean, III -Source of Ehrlichman’s information -Knowledge of funds transactions -Richard A. Moore’s conversation with Garment and Ehrlichman, April 11, 1973 -Focus on funds problem -Mitchell’s attention -21- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. February-2011) Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d) -Moore’s conversations -Dean -Mitchell -Possibility of conversation with President -Previous conversation with President Supreme Court -Byron R. White -Interest in directorship of Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] -Life on the court -Prestige -Background -Religion -Marital status -Political views -Conservative -Law and order -Race -Pace of decisions -Replacement -Discussions -Messages from Potter Stewart and Lewis F. Powell, Jr. -Work of Jewell S. LaFontant -Quality -Richard G. Kleindienst’s assessment -Blacks -White -Kleindienst -Warren E. Burger -Meeting about FBI position -Ehrlichman meeting -Marvin Watson -Background -Lawyer -Postmaster General -Lyndon B. Johnson Administration -Democrat -Comparison with Abe Fortas -Press reaction -22- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. February-2011) Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d) -Credibility Watergate -Ervin Committee -Schedule -Ehrlichman’s talk with Ervin -Executive privilege -Kleindienst’s attack on Edmund S. Muskie -Ervin’s opinion of President’s position -Aims of White House -Ervin Committee -Strachan, Dwight L. Chapin, Segretti -Herbert W. Kalmbach -Ehrlichman’s warning to Baker and Ervin -Records of 1970 Congressional money -Pre-1970 Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy investigation -Lowell P. Weicker, Jr. -Alabama money -Scope of subpoena -Ehrlichman’s conversation with Kalmbach’s attorney -Scope of investigation -Ehrlichman’s conversation with Ervin -Kalmbach -Subpoena -Funds -Movement of money for Stans -Haldeman’s use -Polling -Administration’s explanation Economic policy -Herbert Stein -Troika of economic advisors and Roy L. Ash to prepare written recommendations -Arthur F. Burns -Ehrlichman’s call -Meeting with President -Decision making process -Pierre Rinfret -Paper -23- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. February-2011) Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d) -Stein’s list of options -Congress -Mail from constituents -Opposition to proposals -Business community -William J. Baroody’s office -Effectiveness -Control of inflation -Stein’s view on control -Equilibrium -Economy’s momentum -Stock market -Rise in prices -Distortions -Jewish influence -Rinfret -Retail sales figures Inflation -Public reasoning -Lack of confidence -Cambodia -Fiscal policy [?] -Federal spending -President’s vetoes -Influence on Congress Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:05 am. President’s schedule -Henry A. Kissinger -Talking paper -Meeting with Gregorio Lopez-Bravo de Castro -Length of meeting -Meetings with foreign ministers -Meeting with Lopez-Bravo -Duration Bull left at an unknown time before 11:50 am. -24- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. February-2011) Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d) President’s schedule -Meeting with Lopez-Bravo -Length -Content of paper delivered to President Watergate -Mitchell and LaRue -Forthcoming testimony to Grand Jury -Nature of possible crimes committed -Perjury -Washington Post’s allegations of funds for cover-up -Legal importance of intent -Committee to Re-Elect the President [CRP] -Segretti -Plea of self-incrimination -Meeting of attorney with Kalmbach’s attorney -Connection with E. Howard Hunt, Jr. -Strachan -Chapin -Campaign organization -Watergate break-in -Management -Magruder -Mitchell -G[eorge] Gordon Liddy ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 [Privacy] [Duration: 33 s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 ***************************************************************** -25- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. February-2011) Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d) Watergate -Sally Harmony’s testimony before grand jury -Mitchell and Magruder -Haldeman -Dean’s story concerning reports -Submission of report to Strachan FBI -Possible involvement of Haldeman -Haldeman’s response Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:05 am. President’s schedule -A meeting -Time Bull left at an unknown time before 11:50 am. Watergate -Liddy -Sally Harmony’s possible testimony ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 [Privacy] [Duration: 13 s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 ***************************************************************** Watergate -Liddy -Sally Harmony’s possible testimony -Source of information for Ehrlichman -Richard A. Moore -26- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. February-2011) Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d) -Memos to and from Liddy -Charles W. Colson -Haldeman -Ehrlichman conversation with Dean -Haldeman -Defense by White House -Forthcoming testimony -Comparison with Mitchell’s testimony -Possible future reactions by Republicans -Weicker -Hugh Scott, Barry M. Goldwater, Gerald R. Ford -Comparison with Sherman Adams case -Possible White House reaction -Garment’s reaction to investigation -Interest of President’s opponents -Response by President -Gannon’s suggestions for President’s activities -Travel -President’s forthcoming meeting with Lopez-Bravo -Ehrlichman’s assessment -President’s meeting with Lee Kuan Yew -Ehrlichman’s assessment -Effect on President’s opponents -Weicker -Vetoes -Effect on public pereption -Role of Congress -Baseball game attendance Watergate -Responsibility for counterattack -Colson -Garment -Baker -Patrick J. Buchanan -Strategy -Stories in press -Ervin Committee -27- NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM Tape Subject Log (rev. February-2011) Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d) Ehrlichman left at 11:50 am.