Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 893-012 Date: Wednesday, April 11, 1973 at 11:51 AM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Lopez Bravo de Castro, Gregorio; Kissinger, Henry A.; White House photographer Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/893-012 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:16] Yeah. [0:18] Yeah. [0:19] Yeah. [0:45] We'll never forget that day when we were at the dinner, you know, on our visit there. [0:51] That's the best welcome we've had in four years. [0:54] So we appreciate that relationship we've had. [0:58] And I hope in the next four years we can continue to see a breakthrough in some of the directions you and I have covered up. [1:09] I hope we have a relationship. [1:12] What? [1:12] I hope we have a relationship. [1:13] Ah, no. [1:13] It's on Monday, Monday, Monday. [2:38] Well, it's a great day. [2:39] Yes, it is great. [3:22] I like the idea of starting now. [3:24] In other words, the thing to do is to start now so that we don't come up with a big crisis later and so that we can set up the right kind of working group now and decide where we're going to go. [3:37] We've also got to do it in terms of what the rest of Europe is going to do and so forth. [3:48] So what kind of a plan do you have in mind as to what we're going to do? [3:53] um, [4:20] in the capital, he lost $100. [4:24] In 75, he was paid close to $2,000. [4:26] Really? [4:27] Really. [4:28] That's great. [4:30] And General Franco and the Spanish government, we have decided to share more in the common responsibilities of defense. [4:41] In Europe? [4:42] In Europe and the world. [4:43] In the world. [4:44] Yeah, I know, I know. [4:46] So, in this case, we are not asking for money. [4:49] We are not [5:16] I object, one of my objectives in this administration, and one of my predictions as far as the future is concerned, is that Spain, the time has come for Spain to play a full role in the Atlantic community. [5:35] Now, the question is how that can be worked out. [5:38] You know, there's still the problems of, we all know, [5:49] Anyone who visits Spain as I have, so sees the modern Spain. [6:24] in that spirit, not just simply for the purpose of trying to renew on the same... [7:17] and the US. [7:47] Now, two-thirds of all the people living in Spain [8:15] been born since the war was over. [8:17] And he was ridiculous. [8:19] He was a boy. [8:21] He was a boy. [8:23] Of course. [8:24] But I mean, that's my point. [8:26] And my point is that just like our new policies that we're developing toward, it's a very different situation because after all, you're our friends. [8:35] But our policies toward Egypt and the rest [8:50] for over 29 years. [8:51] So there's a whole new world. [9:37] We'll communicate and see what we can work on. [9:43] In the meantime, I hope in the next four years we can make the breakthrough, not just our relations with Spain, which was complicated by my visit there, but... [10:14] You take care of her. [10:41] Does he feel well? [10:42] All right. [10:43] He's so nice to us. [10:47] And don't forget, if you have any possibility to visit Spain again, do it with us. [10:53] But we want to have something. [10:55] We'll find a way to get there one way or another. [11:02] Of course, I'd love to come with you.