Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 894 › Conversation 894-011

Nixon & Bull on Congressional leadership and Foreign policy

Thursday, April 12, 1973 · 1:10 PM–1:16 PM ET · Oval Office · 4 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation894-011 on Tape 894StartThursday, April 12, 1973 at 1:10 PMEndThursday, April 12, 1973 at 1:16 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 894-011 ↗

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President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to finalize the logistics and attendee list for an upcoming bipartisan Congressional leadership meeting, emphasizing the need for a small, focused group rather than a large gathering. They specifically discussed the inclusion of key lawmakers, such as Senators Javits, Ribicoff, and Jackson, to address foreign relations and legislative strategy. Additionally, the President reviewed his broader schedule, including plans for a brief meeting with Jewish leaders and coordination regarding John Ehrlichman's activities.

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President General, you just called me, so you'll be about 10 minutes long.

Why?

With regards to the proposed bipartisan solution, the most sacred nation in the United States, the Soviet Union, that's not really going to be money.

It's a bill, Tim, that's just recommending it.

that unless there's new information or something that it be incorporated in the Wednesday 5-4 installation meeting and then Janet is going to go out and Jackson could be in the Wednesday meeting.

Yes sir, that's a good issue.

No.

No, I said the point is there is something new.

There is.

It has to be done separately and it must not be

I'm not thinking of it, it is not to be a big meeting.

This would be very, a very small meeting.

I think just the big four, the big four plus, uh, plus Javits.

And the, uh, let's see, uh, the, uh, the big four plus the, uh,

I don't know whether this leaders meeting was decided to have that as a breakfast

I was thinking about the leadership meeting.

Actually, I have a great number.

So there's some thought about that.

I didn't get an answer, but if they do, we've got to find out.

Yes, sir.

I think I'll hit everyone in the meeting.

I don't know.

I'm talking to the president about this.

Unless we want to make some points by getting them to something.

I don't know how many they just said.

830.

I don't know what time o'clock.

Uh, then you're gonna enter a second meeting with the late third lieutenant.

Christ.

Here we go.

As you said before, let's get to, uh, George Kennedy, Jim, and Reagan, who was in foreign relations.

Right.

Oh, it's just a very short meeting.

And the Jewing, the hitting of the Jewish leaders, come there repeatedly thereafter, but just say it's a very brief meeting.

Okay.

Why don't you just send this over to the...

Present to me like I did you.

You'll be suited.

All right, good luck.

You'll be fine.

NARA Description

On April 12, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:10 pm to 1:16 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 894-011 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 894-11

Date: April 12, 1973
Time: 1:10 pm - 1:16 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     John D. Ehrlichman’s schedule

     President’s schedule
           -Congressional bipartisan leadership meeting
                 -William E. Timmons’s suggestions
                       -Jacob K. Javits, Abraham A. Ribicoff, Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
                 -Developments
                 -Size of meeting
                 -Foreign relations
                 -Committee leaders
           -Jewish leaders
           -Congressional bipartisan leadership meeting
                 -Breakfast
           -Meeting with Giulio Andreotti
           -Cabinet meeting
                                              -22-

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                             Conversation No. 894-11 (cont’d)

            -Composition of Congressional meeting
                  -Richard A. Moore
            -Jewish leaders
                  -Length of meeting
            -Charles W. Colson
                  -Characterization of reaction to remarks
            -Letter [?]
                  -Destination
                        -Residence
            -Executive Office Building [EOB]

Bull left at 1:16 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 894-011, April 12, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/894-011 (accessed October 5, 2026).