{"conversationCode":"894-013","tapeNumber":894,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-894-013","startDateTime":"1973-04-12T18:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-12T18:19:00.000Z","startDate":"12-Apr-1973","startTime":"1:16 PM","endDate":"12-Apr-1973","endTime":"1:19 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On April 12, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 1:19 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 894-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 894-13\n\nDate: April 12, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 1:16 pm and 1:19 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     President’s schedule\n           -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n                 -San Diego State University [?]\n           -Meeting on Soviet Jews\n                 -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson, Abraham A. Ribicoff, Jacob K. Javits\n                      -Length of meeting\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 1:19 pm.","filename":["894-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"894-012","nextCode":"894-014","transcript":[{"start":0.29,"end":4.52,"text":"Mr. President, I thought all witnesses generally did the same thing."},{"start":5.2,"end":5.64,"text":"Oh, my, my."},{"start":5.66,"end":11.38,"text":"I think you wanted to add Jackson to that Soviet jury meeting, didn't you?"},{"start":11.4,"end":13.74,"text":"I think it's his men, isn't it?"},{"start":13.77,"end":14.75,"text":"Or three people."},{"start":14.81,"end":15.31,"text":"Chavis."},{"start":15.37,"end":15.81,"text":"Chavis."},{"start":16.99,"end":17.27,"text":"Jackson."},{"start":20.05,"end":22.31,"text":"Be sure they are told that it's a very great meeting."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull reviewed the President’s upcoming schedule, specifically focusing on a meeting regarding Soviet Jewry. They discussed the inclusion of Senators Henry Jackson, Abraham Ribicoff, and Jacob Javits as attendees. Nixon instructed Bull to ensure the participants were briefed on the significance of the meeting.","topics":["Presidential Schedule","Soviet Jewry","Henry M. Jackson","Abraham A. Ribicoff","Jacob K. Javits","White House Meetings"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T23:24:44.634Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","soviet-jewry","henry-m-jackson","abraham-a-ribicoff","jacob-k-javits","white-house-meetings"],"audioDurationSec":35,"audioFiles":[{"file":"894-013.mp3","bytes":1114112,"durationSec":34.73,"bitrate":256609,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:06.080Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/894-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/894-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/894/conversation-894-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}