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Start Date: 12-Apr-1973 4:00 PM

End Date: 12-Apr-1973 5:27 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Connally, John B.Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Oval Office

894-016a.mp3

894-016b.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 12, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, John B. Connally, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:00 pm to 5:27 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 894-016 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 894-16

Date: April 12, 1973
Time: 4:00 pm - 5:27 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John B. Connally.

     Thomas G. Corcoran
         -Benjamin Disraeli
         -William Pitt
         -Horace Walpole
         -Gift to President
                -Books
                      -Walpole
                            -Disraeli
         -Appearance
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             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. February-2011)

                                                            Conversation No. 894-16 (cont’d)

     -Service in Franklin D. Roosevelt’s administration 

     -Age       

     -Family       

     -Profession       

           -Law      

           -Clark M. Clifford      

           -Clients      

     -Washington gossip       

     -Relationship with Samuel J. Ervin, Jr. 

     -Relationship with Eastman [?] 


President’s forthcoming energy message to Congress
      -Deregulation of new gas
            -Connally’s assessment
      -Connally’s conversations        

            -Charles J. DiBona       

            -William E. Simon        

            -John D. Ehrlichman          

      -Research        

      -US Congress         

      -DiBona        

            -Leak of Bill to Connally
      -Connally’s political advice         

            -Merits [?]       

            -Congressional consultation      

            -Max M. Fisher         

      -Alaska pipeline        

            -Rogers C. B. Morton           

            -Congressional bill      

      -President’s political assessment

Inflation
       -Prices
       -Beef
             -World diet         

                  -Rice      

             -London price           

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             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. February-2011)

                                                          Conversation No. 894-16 (cont’d)

            -Japan price    

            -European price       


President’s forthcoming energy message
      -Influence of big business
      -Consultations
            -Connally         

                   -Whip         

            -William Simon             

                   -Fisher         

      -Alaska pipeline         

            -Tariff program

      -Independent refiners          

            -Presidential assessment                 

            -US refining capacity                

      -Research        

            -Coal        

            -Nuclear energy            

            -Coal        

                   -Environment                

      -Suspension of Environmental Protection Act 

            -Utilities’s use of coal               

                   -Sulfur content of coal               

                   -Environmentalists                  

      -Automobile emmissions                 

            -William D. Ruckelshaus                    

                   -Opposition to automobile manufacturers       

      -Mileage of Cadillac’s            

            -Price of gasoline            

                   -Presidential work experience           

      -Availability of gasoline during Depression 

            -Gasoline industry              


National economy
     -Watergate
     -Maintenance of boom
     -1971
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       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                        (rev. February-2011)

                                                Conversation No. 894-16 (cont’d)

      -Recession and inflation
             -Boom
-Unemployment
      -Percentages
-Retail sales
-Anti-inflation program
      -Effects
      -October, 1974
-Popular opinion
-Curbing inflation
-Need for freeze
-Trouble spots
      -Wall Street        

             -Attitudes       

             -Relationships of problems            

             -Expectations of companies who went public 

                   -Stocks
                   -Deflation of prices
             -Securities and Exchange Commission’s [SEC’s] change in commission
              procedures 

                   -Stock sales        

                   -Costs       

             -State of business        

                   -1969 – 1970          

                   -H. Ross Perot          

             -Volume of business             

                   -Commissions           

             -Fear of possible tax bill        

                   -Congress         

                   -Minimum tax             

                   -Capital gains taxes          

                          -Presidential veto         

                   -Estate tax      

                   -Tax rates      

                   -Wall Street’s fears          

      -National psychology
-President’s action on meat prices
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       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                          Tape Subject Log
                         (rev. February-2011)

                                                 Conversation No. 894-16 (cont’d)

      -Effects      

            -Labor negotiations          

            -Export of beef          

                  -Europe         

            -Brazil      

                  -Exports         

                         -Brazilian inflation       

            -Argentina       

            -Europe        

                  -Ireland
            -Japan
                  -Importation rates
      -Comparison with lumber, commodities
-Selective price controls
      -Congress’s intentions
            -Economic Stabilization Act           

                  -Price freezes and rollback         

                  -Congressional votes         

            -Wright Patman             

      -Connally’s conversations with George P. Shultz and Simon 

            -Administration’s reaction        

      -Labor contracts       

            -President’s assessment         

            -Price freezes       

            -Bubble        

-President’s long-term focus
-Consumer confidence
      -Cars
      -Meat
      -Fear of unemployment
      -Marie Antoinette
-Quality of White House staff in management of economy
      -Shultz
            -Telephone call to Connally          

      -John T. Dunlop        

      -Simon       

      -Herbert Stein       

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              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. February-2011)

                                                       Conversation No. 894-16 (cont’d)

                   -Connally’s assessment
      -Connally meeting with Shultz and Simon 

            -Characterization of the economy          

            -Public relations        

                   -Lack of communication           

                   -Pierre Rinfret        

                          -Ehrlichman         

                   -Phase I and Phase II          

                          -Salesmanship
                                 -Presidential appearance
                                 -Connally
                                 -Shultz
                   -Simon         

                   -Stein      

                          -Appearances          

      -Eliot Janeway’s predictions          

            -Impact        

      -Interest rates       

      -Bankers        

            -Arthur F. Burns
                   -Shultz
            -James L. Robertson’s resignation from Federal Reserve
                   -Robert C. La Holland, staff director
                          -Qualities
                          -Support from Burns and Shultz
                   -Burns         

                          -Relationship with Connally     

                                 -Treasury Department     

                          -George W. Mitchell
                                 -Qualities
                                 -Age
                          -John C. (“Jack”) Sheehan
                                 -Appointment
                                 -Support for President
                                 -Age

Presidential politics
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                     Tape Subject Log 

                                    (rev. February-2011)

                                                            Conversation No. 894-16 (cont’d)

             -Ages of Ronald W. Reagan and Nelson A. Rockefeller
             -Gen. Charles A. J. M. deGaulle, Konrad Adenauer
             -Chou En-Lai
             -Proper age

     Proper age for Congress 

          -Norris Cotton       

          -Ideology        

          -Patman        

                 -Vietnam
                 -Characterized
                 -Influence

     Appointment to the Federal Reserve 

          -Sheehan        

                -Attributes     

          -Unidentified man
                -University of California [?]
                -Loyalty
          -Holland       

          -Burns       


     Sub-cabinet officers       

          -Reorganization         

          -William P. Clements, Jr. 

                -Characterized
                -Loyalty
                       -Elliot L. Richardson

     Sheehan      

          -Loyalty        


Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:00 pm.

     Burns       

             -Money supply      

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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                     Tape Subject Log 

                                    (rev. February-2011)

                                                            Conversation No. 894-16 (cont’d)

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:27 pm.

     William McChesney Martin, Jr. 

           -Responsibility for economy         

                 -Federal Reserve      

                      -Responsibility      

     President’s veto      


     White House party for Congressmen
          -President’s veto
                -Party for Congessmen
                -Budget controls
          -Popular opinion on government spending
                -Opposition to increases
                      -Higher taxes
                      -Higher prices
                      -Conflict of ideas
                            -Aid for physically disabled
                            -Aid for poor
                            -Smaller government
                -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger

     Office of Economic Opportunity (OEO) dismantlement
           -District Court’s decision
                 -Appeal

     National Aeronautics and Space Administration [NASA]
          -Alabama
          -Continuance of NASA

     Universities     

          -Financing     

          -Number of professors      

          -Stanford’s money-raising program


     Government spending and higher taxes 

          -Programs     

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             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                              (rev. February-2011)

                                                       Conversation No. 894-16 (cont’d)

     -Spending

[First name unknown] Clements
       -Board chairman of Dr. Pepper
       -Dallas salute to Prisoners of War [POWs]
             -Leslie T. (“Bob”) Hope
             -Press coverage        

                   -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]      

                   -American Broadcasting Company [ABC]         

                   -Missing in Action [MIA] families   

                   -State Governors        


White House dinner for POWs

Dallas salute to POWs
      -President’s schedule
      -President’s opinion of POWs
      -Invitation from Clements

Watergate
     -Ervin Committee         

           -Administration’s plan for handling      

           -Facts of Watergate       

                 -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] reports
                 -White House staff involvement
                 -Involvement of Committee for the Re-election of the President [CRP]
                       -Jeb Stuart Magruder’s knowledge
                 -John N. Mitchell’s involvement
           -President’s conversation      

                 -Investigation      

                 -Mitchell      

                 -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman         

                 -Charles W. (“Chuck”) Colson         

                 -Mitchell’s involvement       

                       -Campaign security
                             - G[eorge] Gordon Liddy        

                 -Donald H. Segretti      

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       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                          Tape Subject Log
                         (rev. February-2011)

                                                 Conversation No. 894-16 (cont’d)

                   -Campaign activities         

                          -Dick Tuck        

      -Mitchell’s involvement             

             -Bugging reports           

             -Magruder’s possible testimony       

      -John D. Ehrlichman’s negotiations with Ervin and Howard H. Baker, Jr.
-White House staff testimony
      -Colson
      -John W. Dean III
      -Haldeman
-President’s response to break-in
-Haldeman’s involvement
      -Response to break-in
      -Conversations with President
      -Actions of burglars
             -Lawrence F. O’Brien
             -R. Spencer Oliver
      -Public exoneration
-Ehrlichman’s negotiations with Ervin, Baker
      -Campaign activities
-White House resolution for Watergate problem
      -Grand Jury testimony
             -Haldeman        

                   -Conversations with Richard Kleindiest   

                   -Dwight L. Chapin          

                   -Gordon C. Strachan          

                   -Segretti      

                   -Magruder          

                   -Mitchell        

-Ervin’s interests
-Possible testimony by Haldeman before Ervin Committee
-John J. Sirica’s sentences
-Colson lie detector test
      -Effects
-Mitchell and Magruder
-White House legal counsel
-Herbert W. Kalmbach’s involvement
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       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                        (rev. February-2011)

                                                Conversation No. 894-16 (cont’d)

-Leonard Garment
      -Characterized
-Communication with lawyers for Mitchell and Magruder
-White House investigation
      -Direction       

      -FBI and Department of Justice 

            -Decision on Haldeman’s possible testimony    

      -Grand Jury          

            -Magruder’s testimony           

                   -Consultation with Garment         

                   -Perjury charges        

      -Ehrlichman’s negotiations with Ervin
            -Witness schedule        

                   -James W. McCord, Jr.          

                   -Haldeman, Colson, Dean          

-Haldeman
      -Possible public statement
      -Conversation with John Connally
      -Public statements
      -Involvement
            -Possible statement        

            -Chapin and Segretti         

            -Tuck        

            -Reasons         

                   -Fear of violence by Democrats
                   -Republicans’ actions in campaign
                   -Democrats’ violence
      -Effectiveness as public servant        

      -Connection between Segretti and Watergate 

      -Departure        

            -Dwight D. Eisenhower and Sherman Adams
            -Effect on Presidency
-Current situation
-McCord’s possible testimony
      -Effect      

            -Garment’s evaluation          

      -Republican leadership response           

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                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                    Tape Subject Log 

                                   (rev. February-2011)

                                                           Conversation No. 894-16 (cont’d)

               -Possible statement by Haldeman
               -Possible testimony by Haldeman
                     -Executive privilege
                     -Effects
         -Possible testimony of Liddy 

               -Liddy’s secretary       

               -Garment        

         -Outside lawyer         

               -Thomas E. Dewey           

               -Herbert Brownell        

               -Role      

               -Timing       

               -Charles A. Wright         

               -McCarthy hearings           

                     -Joseph N. Welch
         -Haldeman         

               -Lowell P. Weicker, Jr.        

               -Focus of investigation        

                     -President


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    Connally’s schedule     

         -Meeting with Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo 


    Connally’s political affiliation
         -Current political situation     

               -President’s influence        

               -Effect on Watergate        

                      -Delay of decision
         -1976 Presidential race
               -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
                      -Robert S. Strauss
               -President’s support for Republican candidates
                      -Connally
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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                     (rev. February-2011)

                                                            Conversation No. 894-16 (cont’d)

                     -Nelson A. Rockefeller
                     -Ronald W. Reagan
                            -Age
                     -Spiro T. Agnew
                            -Agnew’s chances
              -Honor of the Presidency
                     -Lies
              -Connally
                     -Election against Kennedy
                     -Strength
                            -President’s support for Connally
                     -Switch of party affiliation
         -Watergate Issue
              -Implications
         -Connally’s talk at Shreveport, LA., luncheon
              -Democratic National Committee [DNC]
              -Political ambition
         -Watergate       

              -Duration and extent of investigation 

              -President’s involvement          

              -Haldeman          

                     -Timing of change

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    Rebozo      

         -Howard Simons          

         -Jamaica    


    President’s schedule     

          -Easter weekend        

                -Florida     


    John Connally’s schedule 

         -Sheikh Ahmed ZakiYamani            

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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                       Tape Subject Log 

                                      (rev. February-2011)

                                                             Conversation No. 894-16 (cont’d)

                 -Saudi Arabia        

                      -Oil     


Connally left at 5:21 pm.