{"conversationCode":"895-002","tapeNumber":895,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-895-002","startDateTime":"1973-04-13T13:29:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-13T13:49:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Apr-1973","startTime":"8:29 AM","endDate":"13-Apr-1973","endTime":"8:49 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On April 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:29 am and 8:49 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 895-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 895-2\n\nDate: April 13, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 8:29 am and 8:49 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with an unknown man.\n\n     President’s schedule\n           -William E. Timmons\n\nThe unknown man left at an unknown time before 8:49 am.","filename":["895-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"895-001","nextCode":"895-003","transcript":[{"start":1.23,"end":4.16,"text":"You, uh, can you turn this around for me for a minute, please?"},{"start":4.18,"end":4.64,"text":"I think he is, yes."},{"start":5.34,"end":5.81,"text":"Do I steal him?"},{"start":6.23,"end":7.63,"text":"Yeah, he's not part of it."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with an unidentified individual to discuss the scheduling of William E. Timmons. The brief exchange focused on assessing the availability and potential recruitment of an unnamed third party for a specific role. The conversation concluded with the President seeking logistical adjustments regarding this individual’s status.","topics":["William E. Timmons","Presidential scheduling","White House personnel","Staffing"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T23:25:47.711Z"},"topicSlugs":["william-e-timmons","presidential-scheduling","white-house-personnel","staffing"],"audioDurationSec":13,"audioFiles":[{"file":"895-002.mp3","bytes":421888,"durationSec":13.05,"bitrate":258562,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:06.080Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/895-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/895-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/895/conversation-895-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}