Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 895 › Conversation 895-007

Nixon, Timmons & Bull on Mike Curb Congregation and Public Relations

Friday, April 13, 1973 · 9:04 AM–9:10 AM ET · Oval Office · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Timmons, William E.Conversation895-007 on Tape 895StartFriday, April 13, 1973 at 9:04 AMEndFriday, April 13, 1973 at 9:10 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 895-007 ↗

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President Nixon met with Stephen Bull to review logistics regarding a recent appearance by the Mike Curb Congregation, specifically focusing on the president's interactions with new members and the children in attendance. Following Bull's departure, Nixon consulted with William Timmons to coordinate an urgent meeting with Otto Passman. The President directed Timmons to contact Passman regarding an unspecified matter and requested that no definitive decisions be finalized until Passman’s return.

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I was wondering on Mike Kerr if there are any new members of the group with regard to the White House.

I went back up and down the line with your hands of all of them and they sang back to you.

Yes, sir.

And I think you did pretty much that also.

I got a few of them, not all, but here at the White House I know I went over

and shared hands with all of them, the little, the two little girls.

I remember them all so well.

I don't, I know, that's why I don't want to repeat it to Steve, Steve, but if, if it's, if there's no matter.

Did you want to see where I was?

Yeah.

Oh, uh, Bill, I forgot to mention, Otto passed this idea.

He probably had to see me very soon.

And, uh, I don't know, uh, I suppose it's on, uh,

Yeah.

Well, call him and tell him that you want to see him when he comes.

If Passman hit me last night, then since Passman's leaving, he should call and say the president asked him to check with this, and then clearly we'll give it some thought and not make a decision until he returns, and then we'll be able to cut it out.

Okay?

All right.

NARA Description

On April 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and William E. Timmons met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:04 am and 9:10 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 895-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 895-7

Date: April 13, 1973
Time: Unknown between 9:04 am and 9:10 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     President’s schedule
           -Mike Curb Congregation
                                               -8-

                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                            Conversation No. 895-7 (cont’d)

                -New members
                -President’s meeting
                      -Handshakes
                            -Marine Pavilion
                            -Children
           -Meeting with Ronald L. Ziegler

The President talked with William E. Timmons between 9:09 am and 9:10 am. Bull left at an
unknown time after 9:04 am.

[Conversation No. 895-7A]

[Begin telephone conversation]

[See Conversation No. 44-160]

[End telephone conversation]

Also recorded on April 13, 1973

895-001 8:29 AM · 12 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:29 am and 8:49 am.
895-002 8:29 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:29 am and 8:49 am.
895-003 8:29 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:29 am and 8:49 am.
895-004 8:49 AM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon and William E. Timmons met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:49 am to 9:04 am.
895-005 9:04 AM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:04 am and 9:09 am.
895-006 9:04 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:04 am and 9:09 am.
038-001 9:16 AM · 1 min — John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and Lawrence M. Higby talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:16 am and 10:47 am.
895-008 9:16 AM · 1 hr 34 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, Lawrence M. Higby, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:16 am to 10:47 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 895-007, April 13, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/895-007 (accessed October 5, 2026).