{"conversationCode":"895-018","tapeNumber":895,"conversationNumber":18,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-895-018","startDateTime":"1973-04-13T16:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-13T16:53:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Apr-1973","startTime":"11:50 AM","endDate":"13-Apr-1973","endTime":"11:53 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Brown, Jeni; Klein, Herbert G.; White House photographer;","description":"On April 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Jeni Brown, Herbert G. Klein, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:50 am to 11:53 am. 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The White House photographer was\npresent at the beginning of this meeting.\n\n     Greetings\n\n     Brown\n         -Departure from staff\n\n     Photographs\n          -Arrangements\n\n     Brown’s plans\n         -Campaign work\n         -Location of job\n\f                                              -33-\n\n                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 895-18 (cont’d)\n\n                    -California\n                    -Television [TV]\n\n     Brown’s background\n         -Mojave, California\n         -Family\n               -Germany\n\n     Gifts\n             -Pen\n\nBrown and Klein left at 11:53 am.","filename":["895-018.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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The brief session included a photograph to commemorate the occasion and a discussion regarding Brown’s future professional plans in California, specifically involving television and media work. Nixon offered encouragement for her career transition before presenting her with a parting gift.","topics":["Staff Departure","Jeni Brown","Herbert Klein","White House Personnel","California Media"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T23:27:21.385Z"},"topicSlugs":["staff-departure","jeni-brown","herbert-klein","white-house-personnel","california-media"],"audioDurationSec":138,"audioFiles":[{"file":"895-018.mp3","bytes":4405248,"durationSec":137.57,"bitrate":256168,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:06.081Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:57.984Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/895-018.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/895-018","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/895/conversation-895-018","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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