{"conversationCode":"896-004","tapeNumber":896,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-896-004","startDateTime":"1973-04-14T18:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-14T19:13:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Apr-1973","startTime":"1:52 PM","endDate":"14-Apr-1973","endTime":"2:13 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)]; Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); Ehrlichman, John D.;","description":"On April 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman, and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:52 pm and 2:13 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 896-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 896-4\n\nDate: April 14, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 1:52 pm and 2:13 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with an unknown man.\n\n       President’s schedule\n              -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s Rose Garden tour\n                      -President’s activities\n                      -Itinerary\n                              -Photographers\n                              -Press\n\nH. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and John D. Ehrlichman entered at an unknown time after 1:55 pm.\nThe unknown man left at an unknown time before 2:13 pm.\n\f                                               -3-\n\n                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                              Conversation No. 896-4 (cont’d)\n\n[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was initially prepared for the\nWatergate Special Prosecution Force (WSPF) and can be found in Record Group (RG) 460, Box\n174, page 1. The Nixon Presidential Materials Staff reviewed the transcript and made changes\nas necessary. This transcript has been reviewed under the provisions of the Presidential\nRecordings and Materials Preservation Act of 1974 (PRMPA). The National Archives does not\nguarantee its accuracy.]\n\n[Begin transcribed portion]\n\n[End transcribed portion]\n\nThe President left at an unknown time before 2:13 pm.","filename":["896-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","Ehrlichman, John D."],"prevCode":"896-003","nextCode":"896-005","transcript":[{"start":2.19,"end":3.3,"text":"I should go out?"},{"start":3.32,"end":7.25,"text":"Uh, yes, I think you want to watch me."},{"start":8.25,"end":17.73,"text":"I walked through the little alleyway to the garden on this side."},{"start":17.83,"end":20.21,"text":"What do you mean?"},{"start":20.39,"end":22.05,"text":"Where are you?"},{"start":22.21,"end":23.25,"text":"Just next to me."},{"start":23.27,"end":29.8,"text":"Okay, I'll sway where Colonel Gold is walking right now."},{"start":29.84,"end":31.94,"text":"I'm walking to the Rose Garden."},{"start":32.12,"end":35.76,"text":"I'm going to walk to the corner where there is a few pictures."},{"start":35.84,"end":36.06,"text":"Okay."},{"start":36.12,"end":36.28,"text":"Okay."},{"start":36.3,"end":36.4,"text":"Okay."},{"start":36.42,"end":36.52,"text":"Okay."},{"start":51.12,"end":59.19,"text":"I'm just trying to follow along with her, you know, switch that up a little bit."},{"start":59.24,"end":63.13,"text":"All right, sure."},{"start":63.15,"end":63.49,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":63.55,"end":63.77,"text":"It's nice."},{"start":65.89,"end":74.9,"text":"Did you?"},{"start":74.94,"end":77.5,"text":"That's right, I'll follow along."},{"start":82.25,"end":83.09,"text":"Here's the way it stands."},{"start":83.11,"end":87.91,"text":"I just sat there and haven't totally got him."},{"start":87.95,"end":89.57,"text":"You got him this fast?"},{"start":89.73,"end":89.99,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":90.45,"end":90.83,"text":"I'll wait."},{"start":91.08,"end":93.62,"text":"Tell me when I come back."},{"start":93.84,"end":96.12,"text":"All right."},{"start":96.14,"end":96.88,"text":"We decided to..."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with an unidentified individual, H. R. Haldeman, and John Ehrlichman to coordinate the logistics and press coverage for First Lady Pat Nixon’s upcoming Rose Garden tour. The participants discussed the President's itinerary and his role in following the First Lady to ensure appropriate photography opportunities. The conversation focused on managing the public appearance and scheduling the President's movements to accommodate media presence.","topics":["Pat Nixon","Rose Garden","White House Press","Public Relations","Scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T23:28:33.633Z"},"topicSlugs":["pat-nixon","rose-garden","white-house-press","public-relations","scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":105,"audioFiles":[{"file":"896-004.mp3","bytes":3371008,"durationSec":105.23,"bitrate":256285,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:06.081Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:58.239Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/896-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/896-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/896/conversation-896-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}