{"conversationCode":"897-008","tapeNumber":897,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-897-008","startDateTime":"1973-04-16T15:40:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-16T15:50:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Apr-1973","startTime":"10:40 AM","endDate":"16-Apr-1973","endTime":"10:50 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On April 16, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:40 am and 10:50 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 897-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 897-8\n\nDate: April 16, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 10:40 am and 10:50 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       President’s schedule\n              -Building Trade Association meeting\n              -Peter J. Brennan\n                      -Reception\n                      -Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 10:50 am.\n\f                                              -8-\n\n                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                               Conversation No. 897-9 (cont’d)","filename":["897-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"897-007","nextCode":"897-009","transcript":[{"start":0.65,"end":3.69,"text":"You should leave in front of you for 10 minutes."},{"start":4.37,"end":7.03,"text":"This is a certain trade community conference."},{"start":7.05,"end":8.46,"text":"They're running a little flexible."},{"start":8.49,"end":12.54,"text":"If you've got any questions, that's something I can attend to."},{"start":12.6,"end":12.98,"text":"Fine, then."},{"start":13,"end":15.88,"text":"Okay, so I'm going to take care of you, right?"},{"start":16,"end":18.4,"text":"Yes, that's why I'm going to take care of you."},{"start":18.66,"end":21.59,"text":"You're in the VIP reception."},{"start":21.69,"end":22.51,"text":"Yeah, sure."},{"start":22.83,"end":23.77,"text":"Get cold."},{"start":30.81,"end":34.91,"text":"I got tired of those national security matters here."},{"start":35.31,"end":36.17,"text":"Well, he knows they're late."},{"start":36.51,"end":36.85,"text":"Does he?"},{"start":36.89,"end":37.11,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":37.43,"end":38.72,"text":"Well, get Ken Cole and go talk to him."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to finalize scheduling arrangements for an upcoming Building Trade Association conference. They reviewed the logistics for the event, including Nixon’s attendance at a VIP reception involving Secretary of Labor Peter J. Brennan. Nixon directed Bull to coordinate with Kenneth R. Cole, Jr. to ensure the President was briefed on the delay of the event and the specific protocol for his appearance.","topics":["Presidential Scheduling","Building Trade Association","Peter J. Brennan","Kenneth R. Cole Jr.","White House Logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T23:29:35.244Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","building-trade-association","peter-j-brennan","kenneth-r-cole-jr","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":55,"audioFiles":[{"file":"897-008.mp3","bytes":1754903,"durationSec":54.78,"bitrate":256298,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:06.081Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:58.407Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/897-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/897-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/897/conversation-897-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}