{"conversationCode":"898-016","tapeNumber":898,"conversationNumber":16,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-898-016","startDateTime":"1973-04-17T19:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-17T19:30:00.000Z","startDate":"17-Apr-1973","startTime":"2:20 PM","endDate":"17-Apr-1973","endTime":"2:30 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On April 17, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:20 pm and 2:30 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 898-016 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 898-16\n\nDate: April 17, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 2:20 pm and 2:39 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n       Leonard Garment\n             -Request for President\n                   -Ziegler\n\f                                               -37-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 898-16 (cont’d)\n\n                     -Item\n                               -John D. Ehrlichman\n                                      -Garment’s plan\n\nZiegler left at an unknown time before 2:39 pm.","filename":["898-016.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"898-015","nextCode":"898-017","transcript":[{"start":0.42,"end":13.06,"text":"Sir, uh, the lens on it came in the wrong suit."},{"start":14.44,"end":14.66,"text":"Early."},{"start":14.84,"end":15.1,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler held a brief meeting to address administrative concerns regarding Leonard Garment. The discussion centered on a specific request involving John D. Ehrlichman and the implementation of a plan proposed by Garment. No major policy shifts were recorded during this short interaction.","topics":["Leonard Garment","John D. Ehrlichman","White House Administration","Staff Coordination"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T23:32:02.639Z"},"topicSlugs":["leonard-garment","john-d-ehrlichman","white-house-administration","staff-coordination"],"audioDurationSec":23,"audioFiles":[{"file":"898-016.mp3","bytes":747520,"durationSec":23.23,"bitrate":257469,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:06.081Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:58.654Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/898-016.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/898-016","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/898/conversation-898-016","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}