{"conversationCode":"906-015","tapeNumber":906,"conversationNumber":15,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-906-015","startDateTime":"1973-04-27T22:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-27T22:37:00.000Z","startDate":"27-Apr-1973","startTime":"5:00 PM","endDate":"27-Apr-1973","endTime":"5:37 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On April 27, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:00 pm and 5:37 pm. 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Fulbright’s bill\n                       -Congressional hearings\n                       -Timmons, Henry A. Kissinger, William P. Rogers, [First name\n                        unknown] Hammond [?]\n           -Kenneth R. Cole, Jr\n           -Diplomatic credentials\n           -Congressional bipartisan leadership meeting\n           -Willy Brandt’s state visit\n                 -Protocol\n                 -Dinner\n                 -Meeting with President\n           -Labor-Management Advisory Committee meeting\n                 -George P. Shultz\n           -Otto Passman\n                 -Delay\n\f                                               -25-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 906-15 (cont’d)\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 5:37 pm.","filename":["906-015.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","Sanchez, Manolo"],"prevCode":"906-014","nextCode":"906-016","transcript":[{"start":0.35,"end":2.75,"text":"He'll be here in five minutes, Mr. President."},{"start":2.85,"end":12.34,"text":"I'll have, uh... Mr. President."},{"start":12.36,"end":13.86,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":14.38,"end":16.86,"text":"Bill Simmons has a problem with the five-part solution."},{"start":17.54,"end":19.59,"text":"I've already laid out the answer."},{"start":19.68,"end":19.95,"text":"Bill..."},{"start":26.82,"end":27.2,"text":"I'm thirsty."},{"start":27.22,"end":28.76,"text":"I'm thirsty."},{"start":28.92,"end":30,"text":"I'm thirsty."},{"start":57.76,"end":61.08,"text":"All right, so here's what we have."},{"start":61.16,"end":62.96,"text":"All we'll do is ."},{"start":63.3,"end":65.22,"text":"All we'll do on Monday is ."},{"start":66.12,"end":67.77,"text":"Tuesday, we have a bipartisan."},{"start":67.78,"end":72.39,"text":"Then we have that 8.30, brand 10.30, and there's no arrival ceremony."},{"start":72.85,"end":75.85,"text":"And then everything else is scrubbed until 8 p.m. when we have the brand 10."},{"start":78.37,"end":82.21,"text":"And on Wednesday, sir, we would have the second brand meeting at 11."},{"start":83.25,"end":83.77,"text":"Nothing else."},{"start":84.39,"end":85.41,"text":"Okay."},{"start":85.51,"end":86.23,"text":"All right."},{"start":86.33,"end":87.67,"text":"I'll just go through."},{"start":87.69,"end":93.28,"text":"We'll still be passing on."},{"start":100.43,"end":108.27,"text":"I want to see him, but it's after I've had a chance to test the water for the other two."},{"start":108.29,"end":111.61,"text":"I'll want to see him later, I believe, when I've had a chance."},{"start":119.17,"end":119.47,"text":"Nice."},{"start":119.5,"end":119.89,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":130.29,"end":130.88,"text":"We got that at 8.30."},{"start":130.94,"end":134.88,"text":"Tuesday, we have a bipartisan."},{"start":134.92,"end":136.08,"text":"Then we have a brand 10."},{"start":136.12,"end":137.52,"text":"We got that at 8.30."},{"start":137.64,"end":139.5,"text":"And there's no required ceremony."},{"start":139.72,"end":143.28,"text":"And then everything else is scrubbed until 8 p.m. when we have the brand 10."},{"start":143.48,"end":148.31,"text":"And then everything else is scrubbed until 8 p.m. when we have the brand 10."},{"start":149.15,"end":156.95,"text":"Then on Wednesday, sir, we would have the second brand meeting at 11."},{"start":157.45,"end":157.97,"text":"We would have"},{"start":158.82,"end":159.41,"text":"Nothing else."},{"start":159.43,"end":162.37,"text":"Second grant meeting 11."},{"start":162.41,"end":163.81,"text":"Nothing else."},{"start":163.85,"end":164.67,"text":"Nothing else."},{"start":165.25,"end":166.31,"text":"Nothing else."},{"start":166.37,"end":167.57,"text":"Nothing else."},{"start":187.59,"end":189.67,"text":"And we'll still be in touch."},{"start":190.06,"end":193.07,"text":"We'll just post one of the things."},{"start":193.09,"end":193.83,"text":"We'll still be in touch."},{"start":195.05,"end":195.45,"text":"Leave him alone."},{"start":195.47,"end":195.85,"text":"Leave him alone."},{"start":196.07,"end":200.01,"text":"I was told you'll see him explain the testing and the thing that I can and I want to see him."},{"start":200.03,"end":204.83,"text":"I was told you'll see him explain the testing and the thing that I can and I want to see him test the movement."},{"start":204.85,"end":209.62,"text":"I was told you'll see him explain the testing and the thing that I can and I want to see him test the movement."},{"start":209.68,"end":217.36,"text":"I was told you'll see him explain the testing and the thing that I can and I want to see him test the movement."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull and Manolo Sanchez to review and streamline the upcoming presidential schedule, specifically concerning Congressional meetings and the logistics for West German Chancellor Willy Brandt’s state visit. The participants decided to scrub non-essential appointments to focus on key bipartisan leadership meetings and official diplomatic protocol. The discussion also touched on administrative coordination involving Henry E. Petersen and William E. 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