{"conversationCode":"908-002","tapeNumber":908,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-908-002","startDateTime":"1973-05-01T11:59:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-01T12:13:00.000Z","startDate":"1-May-1973","startTime":"7:59 AM","endDate":"1-May-1973","endTime":"8:13 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 1, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 7:59 am and 8:13 am. 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Shultz\n              -President’s trip to Key Biscayne\n              -David K. E. Bruce\n              -Congressional half hour\n              -Roy L. Ash\n              -President’s trip to Florida\n                      -Paul W. Keyes\n                              -Location\n                                      -Watergate Hotel\n              -Staff meeting\n                      -Cabinet\n                      -White House staff\n                      -Shultz\n              -Baroody\n\n       President’s previous speech, April 30\n              -Messages\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 8:13 am.","filename":["908-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"908-001","nextCode":"908-003","transcript":[{"start":0.17,"end":2.33,"text":"Mr. President, I don't know if you can get them started today."},{"start":2.35,"end":4.75,"text":"Uh, Parker just logged in."},{"start":4.82,"end":7.22,"text":"He'll be here in a couple, in a few minutes."},{"start":7.38,"end":12.1,"text":"And, uh, if you were here, the attendance would be a long shirt."},{"start":14.14,"end":15.96,"text":"I spoke with Secretary Schultz last night."},{"start":16,"end":20.45,"text":"He indicated that you expressed an interest in actually participating in that labor management advisory board."},{"start":20.47,"end":20.73,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":20.75,"end":20.97,"text":"All right."},{"start":20.99,"end":23.53,"text":"So that's tomorrow afternoon."},{"start":23.55,"end":24.07,"text":"We'll do it then."},{"start":26.61,"end":28.31,"text":"What's the situation with regard to our meeting?"},{"start":29.53,"end":30.31,"text":"Congratulations, sir."},{"start":31.19,"end":31.59,"text":"Please."},{"start":32.23,"end":39.01,"text":"So, I was planning on leaving Thursday as I knew."},{"start":40.73,"end":44.11,"text":"Now, if you'd like to get out of here earlier."},{"start":44.81,"end":45.37,"text":"No, I don't."},{"start":45.67,"end":47.67,"text":"We can move things back."},{"start":48.33,"end":48.83,"text":"Oh, Thursday."},{"start":48.85,"end":52.35,"text":"Let's move around Thursday morning."},{"start":52.79,"end":58.2,"text":"In fact, we can move it back with the county meeting going today to..."},{"start":59.17,"end":60.61,"text":"Don't, don't, don't, don't move."},{"start":60.73,"end":62.93,"text":"Go ahead."},{"start":63.07,"end":67.95,"text":"Thursday morning, just put in every can of dog and crank the can."},{"start":67.97,"end":69.37,"text":"That's really best."},{"start":69.39,"end":71.99,"text":"And Bruce, in about four or five minutes, we have our medicine."},{"start":72.59,"end":72.99,"text":"Right."},{"start":73.53,"end":76.91,"text":"We'll be able to leave right after that."},{"start":76.93,"end":85.29,"text":"And in the morning, Thursday morning, let our boy Ash come in for a while."},{"start":93.72,"end":97.1,"text":"Stand in front before we move down to Florida."},{"start":97.12,"end":98.96,"text":"Yes, I have a provider."},{"start":99.34,"end":99.5,"text":"Right."},{"start":99.52,"end":100.97,"text":"Stay here until we leave."},{"start":100.98,"end":101.41,"text":"Until we leave."},{"start":101.57,"end":104.33,"text":"Or you can go back to California."},{"start":104.35,"end":104.75,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":104.83,"end":105.99,"text":"He stays in the water game."},{"start":107.05,"end":107.23,"text":"All right."},{"start":108.77,"end":109.71,"text":"Water game hotel."},{"start":110.99,"end":116.91,"text":"Actually, he ends up getting there within minutes."},{"start":116.93,"end":119.6,"text":"Is there anyone else you'd like to plan for for Florida?"},{"start":123.42,"end":126.18,"text":"All the cabinets are very brief."},{"start":126.4,"end":128.58,"text":"They can figure it through in 30 minutes."},{"start":131.86,"end":132.6,"text":"Make it 3, 3.30."},{"start":132.66,"end":132.6,"text":"3, 3.30."},{"start":132.92,"end":135.31,"text":"3 o'clock for the cabinet."},{"start":135.33,"end":136.91,"text":"3.30 for the room."},{"start":136.99,"end":140.77,"text":"What did I say the other one?"},{"start":140.79,"end":145.75,"text":"I thought we were going to have the White House with the cabinet."},{"start":145.81,"end":148.26,"text":"And then you'd see separate shelves right here."},{"start":148.3,"end":149.84,"text":"Yeah, what about shelves?"},{"start":149.94,"end":152.6,"text":"Just figure, tell them to come to the cabinet, and I'll see."},{"start":153.41,"end":158.48,"text":"So you won't go that way with the cabinet, so you won't need to see anything separate."},{"start":158.58,"end":162.72,"text":"All right, so would you like that set up early?"},{"start":162.76,"end":169.05,"text":"We don't set anything up because she filed on it, but I'll be available for it."},{"start":169.11,"end":174.92,"text":"And then that cabinet, so we're going to be all sitting in the set for example."},{"start":174.94,"end":175.16,"text":"All right."},{"start":176.24,"end":180.44,"text":"See if there's any message, comments, or results at this stage."},{"start":180.88,"end":181.87,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":181.93,"end":183.17,"text":"We'll need to find out."},{"start":183.25,"end":183.61,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. 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