{"conversationCode":"908-017","tapeNumber":908,"conversationNumber":17,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-908-017","startDateTime":"1973-05-01T19:07:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-01T19:10:00.000Z","startDate":"1-May-1973","startTime":"3:07 PM","endDate":"1-May-1973","endTime":"3:10 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 1, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:07 pm and 3:10 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 908-017 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":"Abuse of Governmental Power Release","aogpSegment":"Segment 0","lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 908-017\n\nDate: May 1, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 3:07 pm and 3:10 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       Watergate\n             -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] guards in offices\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 3:10 pm.","filename":["908-017.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"908-016","nextCode":"908-018","transcript":[{"start":0.17,"end":0.93,"text":"Call the FBI agents."},{"start":0.95,"end":2.77,"text":"They're not listening to the call."},{"start":2.81,"end":4.39,"text":"They're getting the hell out."},{"start":4.41,"end":5.65,"text":"I just sorted that one right out."},{"start":5.69,"end":7.69,"text":"He said in the office where he belongs."},{"start":7.87,"end":10.09,"text":"He wants it not to be out there."},{"start":10.79,"end":11.63,"text":"Is that clear?"},{"start":11.67,"end":11.81,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":12.25,"end":13.49,"text":"Perfect."},{"start":13.51,"end":14.39,"text":"It shouldn't be out there."},{"start":14.43,"end":15.89,"text":"You know, I act like a lot of damn fools."},{"start":16.49,"end":17.41,"text":"I'm getting that."},{"start":17.53,"end":18.39,"text":"Get him out of our office."},{"start":18.89,"end":20.05,"text":"We need some information over there."},{"start":20.09,"end":20.85,"text":"We need to meet him up."},{"start":20.89,"end":21.35,"text":"No, no, no."},{"start":21.37,"end":22.59,"text":"We need to meet him up."},{"start":22.67,"end":24.69,"text":"Just meet him right there in the office where he belongs."},{"start":24.77,"end":25.83,"text":"We're not out there."},{"start":25.85,"end":26.59,"text":"Everybody sees him."},{"start":26.61,"end":27.45,"text":"It's absolutely clear."},{"start":27.47,"end":28.35,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":28.39,"end":29.41,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directed his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to immediately remove FBI agents stationed in White House offices to ensure their presence was less visible. Concerned about the optics and security of these personnel, Nixon ordered that any necessary interactions with the agents occur within their assigned office rather than in public view. Bull acknowledged these instructions, confirming that the agents would be removed from the general office areas.","topics":["Watergate","FBI","White House security","Presidential directive","Surveillance"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T23:47:43.752Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate","fbi","white-house-security","presidential-directive","surveillance"],"audioDurationSec":35,"audioFiles":[{"file":"908-017.mp3","bytes":1110016,"durationSec":34.55,"bitrate":257047,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:06.082Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/908-017.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/908-017","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/908/conversation-908-017","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}