{"conversationCode":"908-020","tapeNumber":908,"conversationNumber":20,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-908-020","startDateTime":"1973-05-01T19:41:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-01T20:02:00.000Z","startDate":"1-May-1973","startTime":"3:41 PM","endDate":"1-May-1973","endTime":"4:02 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On May 1, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:41 pm and 4:02 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 908-020 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 908-20\n\nDate: May 1, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 3:41 pm and 4:02 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with Rose Mary Woods.\n\n       White House social affairs\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n               -Invitations to White House staff\n                       -Limits\n                       -Willy Brandt’s state dinner\n                               -Peter M. Flanigan\n                                      -Treaty negotiations","filename":["908-020.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"908-019","nextCode":"908-021","transcript":[{"start":0.22,"end":12.06,"text":"Mike Rose, I wanted to ask you, and I'm not questioning the thing that required poverty as a reason, but you know, we had said that we were going to try to limit the White House staff on these things."},{"start":12.12,"end":17.79,"text":"Part of it finally gets on the black brand dinner list, you know."},{"start":17.82,"end":22.49,"text":"Peter Feinig."},{"start":22.53,"end":22.91,"text":"What is it?"},{"start":24.25,"end":27.99,"text":"There you go."},{"start":28.03,"end":28.17,"text":"Oh, okay."},{"start":43.75,"end":44.92,"text":"Okay, we're glad you were there."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, discuss the implementation of attendance limits for White House staff at official social events. The conversation focuses specifically on the guest list for the upcoming state dinner for West German Chancellor Willy Brandt. During the discussion, they evaluate the inclusion of Peter M. Flanigan, noting his involvement in ongoing treaty negotiations.","topics":["White House social affairs","Willy Brandt","Peter M. Flanigan","staff invitations","state dinner"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T23:48:01.189Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-social-affairs","willy-brandt","peter-m-flanigan","staff-invitations","state-dinner"],"audioDurationSec":55,"audioFiles":[{"file":"908-020.mp3","bytes":1761280,"durationSec":54.93,"bitrate":256497,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:06.082Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:45:00.968Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/908-020.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/908-020","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/908/conversation-908-020","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}