{"conversationCode":"909-005","tapeNumber":909,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-909-005","startDateTime":"1973-05-02T13:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-02T13:31:00.000Z","startDate":"2-May-1973","startTime":"9:25 AM","endDate":"2-May-1973","endTime":"9:31 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:25 am and 9:31 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 909-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 909-5\n\nDate: May 2, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 9:25 am and 9:31 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       President’s schedule\n              -President’s signature\n              -Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n              -Privacy\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 9:31 am.","filename":["909-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"909-004","nextCode":"909-006","transcript":[{"start":14.68,"end":20.06,"text":"I'm probably going to go out to see Julie's place tonight."},{"start":20.42,"end":23.09,"text":"Don't talk to anybody at all now."},{"start":23.23,"end":27.85,"text":"I'll let you know."},{"start":27.87,"end":29.8,"text":"I'll show you later in the session."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to review administrative logistics regarding his personal schedule and upcoming appointments. During the brief discussion, the President emphasized the need for strict confidentiality, specifically instructing Bull to maintain silence regarding his movements. The meeting concluded with Nixon providing instructions for later coordination, including plans to visit his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Confidentiality","Julie Nixon Eisenhower","White House administration","Operational security"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T23:49:16.866Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","confidentiality","julie-nixon-eisenhower","white-house-administration","operational-security"],"audioDurationSec":42,"audioFiles":[{"file":"909-005.mp3","bytes":1339392,"durationSec":41.73,"bitrate":256752,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:06.082Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/909-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/909-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/909/conversation-909-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}