Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 909-021 Date: Wednesday, May 2, 1973 at 10:47 AM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Cole, Kenneth R., Jr. Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/909-021 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:18] Do you ever talk to yourself as the head of the public? [0:20] I don't have the top of my head, Mr. President. [0:24] I wouldn't want to give that to you. [0:50] He's got to be, you know, have a little experience. [1:01] There is one lawyer that I have met during my tenure here in Washington that I have a great deal of respect for who has been on the staff. [1:11] I think he's got a good sound thinker, and that's Ed Morgan. [1:21] I don't know. [1:21] I have a tremendous amount of respect for him. [1:23] He may be too close to everything now for that kind of thing, but he is one of the most solid people that I've had contact with. [1:34] He would be very good, but... [1:36] I don't know whether he's... Was he involved in the campaign? [1:45] No, sir. [1:45] He worked with us on the staff and was involved... [1:49] strictly in the business of working with the Congress during the last portion of the campaign. [1:56] To the best of my knowledge, he had no involvement at all in campaign activities. [2:00] He was out, as some of us were, making some speeches and that kind of thing. [2:06] But beyond that... Why don't you get a call to John Irvin and see what he thinks of Ed Martin? [2:14] Ed is Assistant Secretary of the Treasury right now. [2:18] He is handling the law enforcement area over there, the Secret Service. [2:22] I'm afraid that's too important. [2:23] No, no. [2:24] That's a critical, that's a critical. [2:25] No, no, no, no, no. [2:26] We don't need somebody like that. [2:27] We just need a good guy who can run through the, you know what it involves, and the counsel's office, you know, getting the clarity and all that sort of thing. [2:43] I might ask Ed for... Ed might have some thoughts on this himself, but another call that I'd like to... [2:48] check is uh jim all right