Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 911-011
Date: Thursday, May 3, 1973 at 10:13 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rogers, William P.
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/911-011

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[0:00] So, Bill, I talked to Jay Packer.
[0:04] Has he ever seen you yet?
[0:07] Yeah.
[0:07] His problem is the stock.
[0:09] He seems to think it's almost insoluble.
[0:11] And I said, well, Dave, we just need to, et cetera, et cetera.
[0:14] And I put it to him every time I talked to you that Elliot didn't have much of a sense.
[0:19] But I don't know what you can tell him about the stock, Bill.
[0:23] It's so complicated that I don't understand it.
[0:25] You probably won't understand it.
[0:27] But...
[0:39] But he says the law has changed now, in some way.
[0:42] But somewhere, you know, Brady's in all the charity, I mean.
[0:55] Yeah.
[0:58] Yeah.
[0:58] Now listen, if we can't make him, if we can't get him, you know what I mean, if we really come down to it, I really think the only other choice is Russia.
[1:08] So something weird, well, do you have any other thoughts?
[1:12] Of course, well, many people don't want things they have to do, isn't that correct?
[1:18] Right, right.
[1:27] But you're not strong enough for that, I know what you mean.
[1:34] Yeah.
[1:34] But with me, though,
[1:36] Terribly hard.
[1:37] We've done that.
[1:38] I told you that I was very stressed about this.
[1:42] I just got to work this thing out.
[1:48] Okay.
[1:51] I see.
[2:08] Any other suggestions?
[2:08] He'd be great if he'd do it.
[2:16] Gosh, if he'd do it, he'd be a great man to have around.
[2:21] But such a, such a, such a mature, decent man.
[2:28] He had IPT.
[2:39] How did it come up, the idea?
[2:54] You know, it's darn near impossible to find anybody who hasn't done, I mean, either a moron, or either a pauper, or a thief.
[3:09] yeah yeah yeah well i'll tell you what i i thought i could try to get away from this weekend which i think you need to do and then maybe under practice
[3:36] I don't want to do anything in a hell of a hurry right now on that point.
[3:49] Yeah.
[4:11] Oh, listen, listen, uh, my, my, my respect for him, you know, it's just enormous.
[4:16] I'll never forget, we had, we had the lunch at Solid Water.
[4:19] Yeah, we had the chocolate ice cream and the chocolate sauce.
[4:24] Or vanilla ice cream and chocolate sauce, sorry.
[4:25] Yeah.
[4:30] What about my father?
[4:33] Well, I do appreciate your calling John's parents, and that was not as thoughtful of any, probably, uh, like being asked, maybe.
[4:41] Oh, did you?
[4:44] What'd he say?
[4:50] Well, that joke cuts on his part, but you know what he did?
[5:04] I just sort of thought,
[5:09] It was guts in a way, but it's also a typical economy.
[5:11] He bought at the bottom of the market, you know.
[5:16] And now he's got no place to go without them.
[5:18] I'll bet you Agnes is practically grinding his teeth.
[5:21] Did he?
[6:12] When I said he would be vice-chairman, he came over and said that he now wanted to approve all members of the staff of the council and so forth.
[6:21] Well, of course, he can't do that.
[6:24] I mean, you know what I mean?
[6:26] I'm not delegating anything.
[6:27] I can't delegate responsibility.
[6:29] That's what you're talking about.
[6:37] Oh, he always did that.
[6:39] All right.
[7:16] little radio talk today, you know, amazing little radio talk on the 5th and 6th, and I said, you will soon embark on a trip, is that right?
[7:26] To Latin America?
[7:28] Yep.
[7:28] Right.
[7:29] I agree, though.
[7:30] And also, these things are, you know, I mean, my God, I mean, they're going to screw around now, doctor.
[7:36] Why are they breaking the site, right?
[7:38] There's also everything.
[7:39] Well, what the hell stupid thing was that?
[7:53] That's right.
[7:57] That's right.
[7:57] That's right.
[8:05] That's right.
[8:05] That's right.
[8:06] That's right.
[8:07] That's right.
[8:23] Thank you, Bill.