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Start Date: 10-May-1973 11:21 AM

End Date: 10-May-1973 12:05 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")

Recording Device: Oval Office

915-012.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 10, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:21 am to 12:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 915-012 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 915-12

Date: May 10, 1973
Time: 11:21 am - 12:05 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Nixon Foundation
          -Employment of Haldeman and John D. Ehrlichman
               -Considerations on access and retention of security clearances
               -Value to Haldeman and Ehrlichman
               -Possible grand jury actions
                     -Timing
                                       -19-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. May-2012)

                                                        Conversation No. 915-12 (cont’d)

           -Leonard K. Firestone and Taft Schreiber 

           -Roy L. Ash       


Maurice H. Stans
     -Committee to Re-Elect the President [CRP] Finance Committee funds for
      defendants’ legal fees 

           -Republican National Committee [RNC] employees 

           -White House staff       

           -Gordon C. Strachan and Lawrence M. Higby 

           -Possible transfer to RNC     

                 -George H. W. Bush       

           -Strachan       


Watergate
     -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
     -Ervin Committee hearings
           -Effect on rights of possible defendants 

     -News coverage         

           -John Chancellor         

     -Ervin Committee hearings           

           -Comparison of forum with court setting
     -Kenneth Clawson
     -President’s meeting with Haldeman and John W. Dean, III, September 15, 1972
           -Recollection and Haldeman’s notes         

           -President’s log       

                 -Dean’s request for information        

                        -David C. Hoopes’s response       

                              -Meetings, August 14, 1972 and February 1973
           -Haldeman’s log
           -President’s recollection
     -New York Times story 

           -Dean’s evidence         

                 -Documents in safe deposit box         

           -Seymour M. Hersh          

           -E. Howart Hunt, Jr.        

     -President’s meeting with Haldeman and Dean, March 21, 1973 

           -Executive privilege        

                                     -20-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. May-2012)

                                                     Conversation No. 915-12 (cont’d)

           -Haldeman’s possible testimony              

                 -President’s motives         

                 -James W. McCord, Jr.           

                 -Richard A. Moore          

                 -Dean’s presentation         

                       -$350,000          

                       -Blackmail         

                             -Hunt’s alleged threat regarding Ehrlichman
                 -President’s response
                 -President’s methodology
                 -Dean’s conversation with John N. Mitchell
                 -Thomas A. Pappas
                 -Dean as focus of problem
                 -President’s order for meeting among Dean, Haldeman, Ehrlichman, and
                   Mitchell
                 -Meeting among Dean, Mitchell, Haldeman and Ehrlichman, May 22
                 -Dean’s desire for immunity
                       -Erlichman’s and Kalmbach
                       -Haldeman and $350,000
                             -CRP
                 -President’s statements regarding funds for defendants
                       -William O. Bittman
                 -President’s statements regarding clemency
                 -Blackmail
     -Dean       

           -Relationship with prosecutors            

           -Jack N. Anderson        

     -President’s meeting with Dean and Haldeman, September 15, 1972
           -Logs of the President’s daily schedule 

                 -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.           

                 -Dean’s possible actions           

           -Haldeman’s notes
     -Ervin Committee hearings          

           -Special Prosecutor        

           -Effect on defendants’ rights        


White House staff
                                        -21-

              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. May-2012)

                                                        Conversation No. 915-12 (cont’d)

       -President’s conversation with Haldeman, May 9, 1973 

       -President’s needs      

             -Reassurance        

                   -Advisor        


President’s previous meeting with Gerald R. Ford, Hugh Scott, Robert P Griffin, and
Leslie C. Arends
      -President’s speech, May 9
      -Senatorial reaction to Watergate
            -Griffin
            -William Proxmire
            -Barry M. Goldwater
            -Republicans’s performance
                  -Lack of counterattaci

Watergate
     -Washington Post column regarding television [TV] news stakeout of Haldeman,
      May 16
     -Ehrlichman and Haldeman
     -President’s meeting with Haig, May 9
     -Leonard Garment, [Horace] Chapman (“Chappie”) Rose and J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr.
           -Haldeman’s notes
                 -Statement by Haldeman’s lawyer
     -Haldeman’s lawyers’ meeting with Garment
           -Executive privilege
                 -John W. Wilson
                       -Compared to Joseph McCarthy
     -Haldeman’s notes
           -Dean’s call to Haldeman, March 26
     -Dean
           -Actions
     -President’s response

Haig
       -Role on White House staff
             -Haldeman’s experience as Chief of Staff
                                         -22-

             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. May-2012)

                                                       Conversation No. 915-12 (cont’d)

Congress
     -Program
     -Republican leaders
     -William E. Timmons
           -Work ethic enthusiasm

President’s speech, May 9
      -Crowd’s reaction       

            -Lobbyist      

            -Duty to supporters      


Watergate
     -Dean’s possible testimony
           -Meeting on September 15, 1972
                 -Alleged bribe to Cubans
           -President’s possible response     

     -Haldeman’s memory

     -Ehrlichman        

           -Testimony in Robert L. Vesco case 

                 -Dean        

                 -Frank Strickler      

           -Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
           -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA] allegations regarding Hunt
                 -Letter from Robert Cushman
                 -Krogh
                 -Memorandum from Cushman
     -Popular opinion        

           -CIA       

           -Break-ins and bugging        

                 -Watergate and Daniel Ellsberg’s psychiatrist’s office
           -Cover-up        

     -Haldeman’s role         

     -Obstruction of justice      

           -Recognition as legal problem

     -Haldeman’s working relationship with Dean 

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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                  Tape Subject Log 

                                   (rev. May-2012)

                                                         Conversation No. 915-12 (cont’d)

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[Duration: 37 s ] 


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    Watergate
         -Haldeman’s working relationship with Dean
               -Haldeman’s intent regarding funds for defendants
               -Dean’s role as lawyer
                     -Failure to point out illegalities
                     -Instructions
                           -Haldeman
                           -Gordon C. Strachan
               -Wilson
                     -Haldeman’s intent
         -Ronald L. Ziegler’s public statements
               -Clearance with Dean
         -Dean
               -Possible counterattack by Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                     -John B. Connally
         -Haldeman’s morning routine
               -Contrasted with Garment
         -Media       

               -New York Times story, May 10 

               -John W. Chancellor’s comment            

                     -Teapot Dome scandal
               -Motive
         -President’s possible departure from office
               -Spiro T. Agnew
               -Effect on American political system
               -President’s possible response to impeachment
                                             -24-


                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                       (rev. May-2012)

                                                            Conversation No. 915-12 (cont’d)

                       -Bella S. Abzug      

                       -Paul N. McCloskey, Jr.     

           -President’s meeting with Dean and Haldeman, 9/15/72 


Haldeman left at 12:05 pm.