Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 915-016 Date: Thursday, May 10, 1973 at 12:15 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Taylor, Gene; Short, Dewey J.; Timmons, William E. Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/915-016 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:03] Good to see you. [0:04] Good to see you. [0:06] Good to see you. [0:08] Good to see you. [0:40] Not yours. [1:10] He's a great man. [1:12] We could use him today. [1:14] We should. [1:14] Everybody could use him. [1:16] That's right. [1:17] We tried that once, didn't we? [1:20] We did. [1:20] Five, six, five, four, three, two, one. [1:22] That would be wonderful. [1:24] He needs to go take a look at the case with the silver. [1:28] He's got the silver and so on. [1:38] things happen. [1:40] We got a great program. [1:43] We're going to do some good things for this country. [1:47] I was on the phone last weekend and I spoke to you for a conference. [1:52] I came out to the three television cameras and they wanted to get in on Watergate. [1:56] I said, what about Watergate? [1:57] I said, I didn't have anything to do with it. [2:01] They said, well, what do you think about recovery? [2:03] I said, this administration will be judged on balance. [2:07] So I said, [2:09] When the whole perspective was looked at, we had 550,000 people in Vietnam. [2:13] They had an oppressive war. [2:15] Crime was increasing nine times as fast as the population. [2:20] And I said, today, the president's at war at home. [2:23] The war is ended. [2:24] The draft is ended. [2:25] For the first time in 30 years, young men aren't looking at the draft. [2:29] And the economy is good. [2:31] There hasn't been a college campus under siege in a few years. [2:34] There's streets in Audubon Park. [2:35] So when you look at the whole picture of Watergate, it doesn't look very big, does it? [2:38] And you know the draft? [2:39] No, guess it doesn't. [2:40] But that's what we need in town. [2:41] What do you think, Joey? [2:44] Way to talk it. [2:44] One of the best professors I ever had at Houston. [2:49] People repeat over and over, see life steadily and see it whole. [2:54] You can't judge a man's life and career by fragrance. [2:58] You've got to see it in its totality, which is very cruel. [3:05] The common rattle that all the young men think, I think that's the way they'll judge. [3:13] And it's always darkest before the dawn. [3:16] You've survived it. [3:18] Well, I didn't get here, but I'm running from it. [3:21] That's right. [3:22] That's right. [3:23] They like that. [3:24] I know how they think you are, but there's one thing. [3:28] I'm not open enough to give advice. [3:30] I'm still too young to follow it. [3:31] Advice is easily given and so damn hard to follow that I don't volunteer it. [3:38] But we've all been terribly upset and distressed, but we're not going to panic over [3:47] A lot of well-intentioned people do silly things. [3:50] That's right. [3:52] I always thought with it. [3:54] That's right. [3:55] Yes. [3:55] But what do you do? [3:56] There were people that were ours. [3:57] They were your friends. [3:58] You trusted. [3:58] They were trustworthy to you. [3:59] They weren't dependent on you. [4:00] That is to the one who said that man often loses a friend according to an enemy. [4:05] I think there's a lot of truth in that statement. [4:08] But I still believe in the Mozart philosophy that I can take care of my enemies if God would take care of my friend. [4:17] Well, Mr. President, of all the messages I've received, I haven't had one critical piece of mail in Watergate. [4:23] Everybody says, stand behind the president. [4:24] This is the truth. [4:25] This is the truth. [4:27] You know, this is, they're not people that, well, you've got to make sure you get those that haven't been. [4:31] You know, my television show, the speech of a week ago, sort of, you've got to be honest with me. [4:36] how many headquarters were bombed [4:59] You know what they did to our convention? [5:01] You don't believe me? [5:02] Sure, I was there. [5:03] I was there. [5:04] You said I knew what they did to it. [5:07] That's what I said. [5:09] I had a great day yesterday. [5:11] They bugged the Speaker of the House, and they bugged the President of the Senate, whoever bugged me yesterday. [5:31] Thank you, Mr. President. [5:35] I always get something. [5:41] This thing is just, I bet you, my new cup. [5:45] Come with me back to this. [5:48] You keep your chin up. [5:50] We're ready to leave. [5:53] We're ready to leave. [6:16] Thank you. [6:16] Thank you.