{"conversationCode":"921-018","tapeNumber":921,"conversationNumber":18,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-921-018","startDateTime":"1973-05-17T16:21:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-17T16:25:00.000Z","startDate":"17-May-1973","startTime":"12:21 PM","endDate":"17-May-1973","endTime":"12:25 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Clancy, Donald D.; Cornett, Chester; Donovan, Thomas; Donovan, Thomas (Mrs.); Donovan, Danny; Donovan, Betsy; Donovan, Shawn; Friedersdorf, Max L.; White House photographer;","description":"On May 17, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Donald D. Clancy, Chester Cornett, Thomas Donovan, Mrs. Thomas Donovan, Danny Donovan, Betsy Donovan, Shawn Donovan, Max L. Friedersdorf, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:21 pm to 12:25 pm. 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The\nWhite House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.\n\n      Introductions\n\n      Arrangements for photo\n\n      Chair\n              -Description\n\n      Donavan family\n            -Indiana\n            -Chair\n\f                                              -33-\n\n                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                      -Log\n                      -Hand carved\n               -University of Indiana\n               -University of Cincinatti\n\n       Arrangements for photograph\n\n       President\n              -Description of role as Vice President\n              -Future meetings\n              -Soviet Union\n              -People’s Republic of China\n\nClancy et al. left at 12:25 pm.","filename":["921-018.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Clancy, Donald D.","Cornett, Chester","Donovan, Thomas","Donovan, Thomas (Mrs.)","Donovan, Danny","Donovan, Betsy","Donovan, Shawn","Friedersdorf, Max L.","White House photographer"],"prevCode":"921-017","nextCode":"921-019","transcript":[{"start":0.96,"end":2.78,"text":"Mr. President."},{"start":3.04,"end":5.86,"text":"Mr. President, Congressman Clancy."},{"start":5.88,"end":6.76,"text":"Tom Clancy, services."},{"start":7.12,"end":7.74,"text":"Oh, Don."},{"start":8.14,"end":8.95,"text":"How are you?"},{"start":9.4,"end":9.51,"text":"Hi."},{"start":9.59,"end":10.46,"text":"How are you, Mr. President?"},{"start":10.61,"end":11.19,"text":"Glad to see you."},{"start":11.21,"end":11.89,"text":"Mr. President here."},{"start":12.15,"end":12.39,"text":"Mr. Cornyn."},{"start":13.25,"end":14.89,"text":"How are you doing, Mr. Cornyn?"},{"start":15.41,"end":15.87,"text":"Glad to meet you."},{"start":15.89,"end":16.05,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":16.07,"end":16.79,"text":"Well, now, you come on over here."},{"start":16.85,"end":22.41,"text":"We're going to get a picture of this chair, which is such a doable art of work across the ship."},{"start":22.51,"end":24.23,"text":"And, uh, here we are."},{"start":26.75,"end":28.26,"text":"You did this all yourself, Tom?"},{"start":28.42,"end":33.78,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":33.86,"end":34.98,"text":"Let's get a little closer, Tom."},{"start":35,"end":36.76,"text":"I don't want you in the picture, too, here."},{"start":37.24,"end":40.3,"text":"I'll stand right here."},{"start":40.36,"end":42.87,"text":"Mr. President, this is the Donovan family of Cincinnati."},{"start":43.1,"end":47.17,"text":"This is Mr. and Mrs. Tom Donovan and Sean Donovan."},{"start":47.27,"end":48.15,"text":"They're our children."},{"start":48.17,"end":48.65,"text":"All right."},{"start":48.79,"end":50.45,"text":"They drove all night to help us."},{"start":50.47,"end":51.47,"text":"They're right here."},{"start":51.85,"end":52.43,"text":"They're with me."},{"start":52.45,"end":52.53,"text":"Okay."},{"start":52.59,"end":52.85,"text":"All right."},{"start":52.87,"end":53.43,"text":"Mr. Anthony."},{"start":53.45,"end":54.03,"text":"How are you?"},{"start":54.75,"end":55.85,"text":"This boy here is Frank."},{"start":57.86,"end":59.72,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":60.06,"end":62.56,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":62.87,"end":64.53,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":83.3,"end":91.74,"text":"I didn't try to meet you."},{"start":91.9,"end":93.28,"text":"That's right."},{"start":94.64,"end":104.92,"text":"You stand over in front of me."},{"start":106.27,"end":107.89,"text":"There you go."},{"start":113.86,"end":115.06,"text":"Well, we're glad to meet you."},{"start":115.6,"end":119.22,"text":"Would that you call me some pictures, would that be?"},{"start":119.25,"end":121.15,"text":"Thank you, thank you."},{"start":121.17,"end":122.11,"text":"So that each family can have one."},{"start":122.65,"end":123.75,"text":"Why don't you take them to school?"},{"start":123.77,"end":124.57,"text":"I should, but that's what they'll do."},{"start":124.59,"end":126.19,"text":"You're going to copy them pictures you've taken to school."},{"start":126.21,"end":129.13,"text":"I don't know, I think you're going to take one."},{"start":129.19,"end":129.57,"text":"That's right."},{"start":129.95,"end":131.06,"text":"He's a bright boy."},{"start":131.5,"end":137.58,"text":"You will see that we're going to get the pictures to the Congressman's office, and you see that they're distributing it to folks."},{"start":137.6,"end":139.16,"text":"You can make up a batch, can't you?"},{"start":139.18,"end":140.38,"text":"I'll tell you about it."},{"start":140.44,"end":141.36,"text":"We can do something about it."},{"start":141.38,"end":142.92,"text":"Is that what you want to say?"},{"start":142.96,"end":144.68,"text":"I don't know what will happen."},{"start":144.7,"end":146.98,"text":"Mr. President, he just wants to take a second to express his feelings."},{"start":150.44,"end":151.04,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":165.21,"end":165.55,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":166.11,"end":167.23,"text":"Uh-huh."},{"start":167.37,"end":167.97,"text":"Uh-huh."},{"start":168.07,"end":168.51,"text":"Uh-huh."},{"start":168.53,"end":169.05,"text":"Uh-huh."},{"start":169.41,"end":170.03,"text":"Uh-huh."},{"start":194.61,"end":197.56,"text":"Why good, but you sure have done a good job."},{"start":198.04,"end":198.4,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":198.48,"end":199.34,"text":"Say thank you."},{"start":199.44,"end":201.96,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":201.98,"end":203.02,"text":"We've got more to do."},{"start":203.04,"end":207.91,"text":"We've got to meet with the Russians next month and the Chinese and a few other people."},{"start":207.93,"end":210.31,"text":"But maybe we can make it the same in the world for these kids."},{"start":211.7,"end":213.1,"text":"I sure appreciate it."},{"start":213.44,"end":216.27,"text":"He's done this completely out of admiration for you."},{"start":216.33,"end":220.27,"text":"There's been nothing other, anything else involved in this."},{"start":220.47,"end":229.56,"text":"He's had this locked in a room for months, and it's taken me over a year to get his trust up to where we could get it up here."},{"start":236.22,"end":236.64,"text":"Good luck."},{"start":237.12,"end":237.46,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":237.5,"end":238.74,"text":"Good luck to you, boy."},{"start":239.06,"end":239.46,"text":"All right."},{"start":239.58,"end":241.16,"text":"Thanks for your help."},{"start":241.24,"end":241.52,"text":"Goodbye."},{"start":241.64,"end":242.5,"text":"Have a nice, pleasant morning."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Congressman Donald D. 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