Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 923-003
Date: Saturday, May 19, 1973 at 10:48 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/923-003

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[0:00] Good morning.
[0:01] Hi, Rose.
[0:01] I think it's ridiculous to pretend that I know this is Mark.
[0:05] He's the last time I called the president.
[0:07] The White House was playing for all this, and the president should be over here every time before he's impeached.
[0:13] I think it's time for us to fight back.
[0:19] What?
[0:20] I think we're giving our best political brains a talk and a fight these bastards back.
[0:25] See, what they did with Bush and McCord yesterday, and he was a smooth,
[0:30] And nakey and slippery and everything.
[0:33] There's going to be more.
[0:34] Why don't we demand that they put him on a life-executive test?
[0:37] They don't.
[0:39] They won't use him.
[0:45] What about Martha?
[0:46] No, Martha's gone.
[0:47] She'll probably check out one of them.
[0:50] She's going to be crazy about that.
[0:51] I don't know if you saw her.
[0:54] I just heard that she did this.
[0:55] I saw it.
[0:56] There you go.
[1:01] television coverage.
[1:01] And it was right at the end, she came down out of her apartment at the end of the horrible, horrible, terrible day.
[1:14] And she looked, I'm sure she looked, her voice looked as if it was hot and very strident and her hair was pulled straight back in like a ponytail, very strained, very awful.
[1:26] She looked amazing.
[1:31] Of course, it's tough.
[1:32] It's real tough.
[1:33] We know all that.
[1:35] Oh, I don't know.
[1:36] I think we've got to get up.
[1:37] We're going to fight as hard as we can.
[1:39] We just haven't got many soldiers.
[1:41] Well, but we could have.
[1:43] Why don't we help Dan, my friend?
[1:45] It's very important to have people to talk to.
[1:49] Right.
[1:50] And just, you know, turn them off.
[1:57] Even I tried.
[1:58] I think that Dave McCord left the FBI because he was a drunk.
[2:05] And I tried.
[2:06] I asked Tommy Charlie the next question.
[2:09] Why did he leave the FBI?
[2:10] Nobody got that.
[2:14] Nobody asked him.
[2:18] I'm curious.
[2:19] I don't want to fight back, but I can watch this guy destroy John.
[2:22] I don't think John is going to lose his mind.
[2:25] I know, but I think somebody said this last night that John got on the phone, too.
[2:35] There's been my commandment to call Hal Thomas, that bitch.
[2:39] And John's got on the phone.
[2:41] And John's got on the phone.
[2:42] And John says, I'm going to be the phone guy.
[2:49] And John asked me,
[2:52] If I thought he could, you see how Tom would throw her off the plane or something.
[2:56] So, if he got off the plane too, that's what Tom would tell me.
[3:02] I told him he didn't have to do that stuff on the radio.
[3:09] But you suggested to go along with Mark.
[3:11] You know, I hang up.
[3:13] I pick two of the many places all the way.
[3:17] But I think we've got to get some of our political people in, and get some of our people around, because people who call in are awful.
[3:26] Clay Porter Grady, maybe you don't even remember, he said, in 1937, last month, he called in and said, I called, returned and called in today about 6.30, and he called in just to tell you that he has every confidence in the world and you, and just,
[3:43] sticks you in there and fights in the same old patch that it's so big time, but he knows, you know, this is what all the folks want.
[3:51] Good.
[3:52] But I can't take anything from the rats and all this stuff.
[3:56] Rabbit meat.
[3:57] It's really good rabbit meat.
[4:02] But I think for John, I think that, my God, my legal revenues must be more revenue because he's... What do you think of that man living with that woman?
[4:14] Well, with that woman sparing to perjury, a perjury indictment, the possibility of indictment is a goddamn thing.
[4:19] You know, they'll never get back on this, I'm sure, because I...
[4:22] It's all hearsay.
[4:23] It's all the legal... Well, it's all hearsay, but if I explain it on television, I'll destroy it.
[4:27] Well, but all the recordings, it's hearsay.
[4:29] He didn't have one.
[4:30] He was positive straight away.
[4:32] about Mitchell.
[4:33] He just read his conversations from Libby.
[4:37] Oh, there it is.
[4:39] $46,000 a year.
[4:39] $46,000 equipment.
[4:40] Okay, that's great.
[4:43] Anyway, I just wanted to know
[5:00] I don't care who it is.
[5:01] God's name is supposed to be God.
[5:03] No, you've never been a quitter.
[5:05] I don't care who tried on any kind of black male part.
[5:09] Saying they're going to do this and they're going to do that and they're not going to be the fall guy.
[5:15] The hell with us.
[5:16] We fought and threw the door and we're going to fight and throw again and they're going to win.
[5:22] John Mitchell.
[5:26] Well, I don't... Well, McCord... McCord... McCord had a fight with Mark, if that was the problem.
[5:33] Yeah.
[5:33] McCord, now you understand, now that's one of the things you can't let go of her.
[5:45] and i think he's the guy
[6:11] with all, you know, thoughts reverting to Jack Coffield, Coffield's the one that recommended it, that's how it happened.
[6:17] Yeah, for a comment.
[6:21] Yeah.
[6:21] Wait a minute.
[6:22] We need to clear that road.
[6:23] Right, clear the road.
[6:24] And we need to clear that site as we've thought before.
[6:27] Let's get all our good fighters in if you...
[6:30] Right, we're working on this.
[6:31] Okay, I didn't know I did, so... We're going to save them, okay?
[6:35] I'm choosing the leaders.
[6:38] If we could just, all the people that we can depend on, who will do the steps, who are trying to do that, we are going to live a better, you know, we're going to win.
[6:56] And I wish my good luck again, boys and girls.