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They were just a little off balance, which you thought they were.

It's good for you to stand up there.

I'll go out.

And also, as we get along, we've made a couple of strides in the present time.

I have a feeling from the briefings that we should start a situation where, on the day you have the congressional leaders picked over, they agree that you don't leave.

The White House does not leave that day.

Let that be the lead.

On the day, and another day, if we've got a major then, like Henry, Henry agrees that you don't, because today you had a very good choice.

What I'm asking is, why are they voting for two stories?

I mean, these assholes will need two stories.

You know, I agree.

Gary, what else?

Well, they're playing the comments from the briefing yesterday, which is inferred.

Yeah, on that subject.

I was thinking also, at least, we had another day where that wiring was not the least.

That's right.

We had good foreign policy.

Scali got a good play.

Well, Scali got a good play.

We had the Chinese have it.

And the Chinese had a little, like, a picture in the paper.

We had a nice time.

I'll be on by going there sometime again.

Well, that's nice.

Thank you.

Then, of course, the Iceland trip.

Going up to Iceland.

Yeah.

We're getting back to the other thing.

You, uh...

Urban made a snotty comment to the effect he did on the name of the Constitution.

I'm going to pick up on that.

The president can go down to the asshole of the EPA Senate in the program.

Do you find that building anything among these assholes that actually did the president?

We are not, you know what I mean, there ain't going to be no give whatever on that presidential paper.

Let me check this on the presidential paper and explain it to you at all.

They said everything we had was water deep, there'd be no problem.

As far as involved in any of that sort of stuff, it looks like we kind of can't do what I know is in some of that stuff.

We talked very frankly about the mission.

They came in, they said Peter D. and her early mission, like I said, we've got a portion of all of our mission's training in the morning.

It's a hell of a time in the morning.

and so forth and so forth.

And I do, Marcus, you know, the way this thing's acting, the way this thing's acting, the way this thing's acting, the way this thing's acting, the way this thing's acting, the way this thing's acting, the way this thing's acting, the way this thing's acting,

You can't do it.

I kind of have the right to talk to you.

You've heard me talk to Mitchell about this, but I think he's probably the guy that's... As we moved into March 30th.

March 30th, the guy...

I said, see, it was Mitchell.

You know what I mean?

And that I... Mara used to say he was too busy with Martin, that she was all or nothing.

And as a result of that, Mitchell wasn't minding the story.

Right.

We developed one.

I think on my 30 days.

And this and that and the other thing that I...

Goddamn, that is murder because that would set Mitchell off against everybody else.

So you see, that's the kind of stuff that you just can't do.

What's the fact that you can't tape on presidential papers?

You can't ever tape on presidential papers.

Well, the president can never talk.

There's no crime, isn't there?

They can all talk.

Well, sure.

Let me ask you a couple of things.

Are there any other stories I should know about?

Not really.

Not anything of any significance.

Uh, I know Scott said he does not like investigating the matter.

He's acting on his ship.

The only thing I would strongly urge him is on a subject like that.

That's typical of where some lawyer in Congress should have talked to all the rest of you and spoken up on it.

Did anybody think

raised with Scott.

Okay, I guess it's just one of those things.

Somebody, and probably you should get back to the press, prepare the press for some demonstrations.

If you understand, pointing out the fact that basically, that it's whatever these demonstrations are talking about, get out and go home to America.

that is being triggered by this terrible thing about the Irish, Irish, British, did you hear that?

Yes, sir.

And then I was going to mention to you, I think that what you've got here with regard to Groenstein, which is false, is that he has now, I don't know how to use that, but it's stayed the same as it was earlier, and there are still going to be more and more predictions

Well, he's moving into a position of total panic, right?

There were two comments that were made today, or I read today.

One was the fact that Dean would not accept him, you know, that he'd just done one.

But then a source close to Dean said that maybe Mitchell would break and Dean would be not needed anymore.

Now, that's going to

That's going to scare the living Jesus out of me, you see.

And put him into a total route posture.

And in all of this, he's going to continue, I think, to lay patting the Savior.

Let me say this.

The problem that you've got with this, Rob, is the fact that he was the counsel of the president.

And what he's doing, he's leading out.

Come in, Henry.

All these other things.

I did.

Could I mention two things?

Oh, sure, sure.

I got these.

What?

Get ready for your time.

Well, if you text me, I'll be sitting there.

Oh, that's nice.

You were first.

Right.

Great, great.

There's two things.

Two points.

You might like it.

Two points.

Cambodia, to say you want to give him an undertaking, which is to repeat what I've already said, that we will do nothing.

That would be it.

And I offered them yesterday that they were willing to formalize it.

I would make a conversation.

I'm not saying that you

This is a great moment to have this guy in there.

I hope he's having a great picture.

Don't worry.

I've ordered it.

But the charges are all the same.

It's a good thing to do.

It played well.

I was impressed with a little bit of sweetening like that.

Everything we were trying to touch is a sensitive matter.

You know, the idea of saying, well, I might be there in the spring, and that this is the most significant thing we've done and all that.

You can't go by belly.

It was.

People, you know, you were concerned about your...

The study is being made in the Justice Department.

We're going to find it.

I've decided that we have to publicly prove that George Bundy's a liar.

Good.

Not bad.

Good.

Mr. Hoover told me that he bugged twice as much for Bobby Kennedy as he did for Johnson.

That's what I was told.

Well, I was the one who told you that.

And I was the one who told you that.

Now, this fellow is a member of the Central Committee, the only man who is.

Well, I don't think I've heard this one.

Yes, sir, you've got something.

No, I...

And all the southern congressmen and the southern witnesses are with us.

But a couple of those guys just went up there and they had tears in their eyes.

And I said, we've just been a little bit in the air.

We're missing people, little people.

We're chasing them.

And they said, God bless you.

And he says, the fools are for you.

And he said, don't you worry.

And one of them said the only thing about Watergate is this.

He said, don't let them wear you down.

He said, it's not wearing us down.

He said, screw this, man.

Goodbye.

Well, good morning.

Good morning.

Why don't we get a picture for the two of us over here?

We'll set up a copy of this.

Let's go.

This is where we put Prime Ministers and Presidents in place.

Thank you.

Before you have

We hope that we can see that they are taking very well care of themselves.

We're planning to set up so they're fired on Tuesday.

Thank you.

Thank you for watching.

I said yesterday to the press from China that I hope to go again.

In the spring, I didn't say, while I was president, I didn't say which spring, but one time I hope to go back.

I didn't say which spring, but I hope to go back to Beijing.

Oh, this is a very good news indeed.

And in fact, I want to be here for this talk.

All right.

And in fact, I was on a business trip yesterday.

And we would like to thank Mr. President for your very friendly reception, for your press dedication, and for your very friendly talk with them.

They told us who was the master later on, and they all felt very happy now.

And in fact, I would like to bear some subtlety to transmit to Mr. President.

The witness of Chairman Mao Zedong is wife of Madam Jiang Qing, of Prime Minister Wang Lai, is wife of Madam Deng Yi-chou.

To you personally, and to the

So we will review extra-partnership systems that should be into development.

And also the federal level state, the chairman and the premier have both read the levels to the date of 16.1.

Well, since we have such a short time, and also since I know that you were a member of the Central Committee, let me direct, regardless of the messages, I would like you to pass the record on such as to the chairman.

First, Dr. Kissinger had some very sensitive talks

with regard to U.S. relations, particularly insofar as those relations might involve the actions of third parties.

So, yeah.

This is a very strong response.

I learned our statements that were not made on the company.

They represent a considered position that this company, at least as far as I represent, and they represent a commitment on our part.

I recently saw some flowers on my way back from the military training camp.

Later on, I gave them back to the government.

The flowers were not made by the private sector.

They were made by the government.

After consideration, the government decided to give them back to the private sector.

The private sector is the only representative of the government.

uh to work toward

However, I wish to emphasize that the formal understanding was not necessary in terms of the commitment that was made

The message is not only well-read, but most people will do not know it.

So when I make a personal commitment, it's solid.

Of course.

This is our official arrangement.

This is our official declaration.

Let me put it in terms of U.S. self-interest.

I believe the self-interest of the United States requires good relations between the government of the People's Republic

I also believe the self-interest of the United States requires that the People's Republic remain and render them a strong nation.

without having its sovereignty in any way threatened by its neighbors.

It will be encouraged on US foreign policy.

as long as I am in this office, to see that actions are taken which will help to guarantee that independent PRC, which I would like to say that those actions are being taken because of the personal relations I have with Chairman Mao and Premier Zhou and I, but that would be quite candid.

Those actions have changed because I believe they serve the interests of the United States.

I also believe they serve the interests of the PRC.

And that's why we're together.

I think what I just said is right.

In other words, it is an action that helps to protect the people of China.

It is a strong and independent country.

Of course, I would like to say that there is a long-term relationship between China and the United States.

But I would like to say that all of us

Now, there is a meeting coming up with Russians.

It's a very important meeting.

We're going to try to get another limitation on your arms.

other matters.

When I say a limitation, it's just an extension of what we had previously.

It's very hard going.

There will be, there will be, there will be,

The important thing that I want to do, I want the Ambassador to convey to Chairman Baum and the regional alliance is that we're going to have eight days of conversations.

We will make some comments and some agreements about trade and some other important matters.

make a commitment that nothing will be agreed to between the United States and, at this point, nothing will be agreed to.

That is, I'll let you know, everybody, that I'm going to be delayed.

I'll let you know.

in any way, in any way, will be detrimental to the PRC.

Thank you for watching.

I've asked Dr. Dick just in your talk directly to the ambassador to fill it in on these talks.

It is, I do not need to impress upon the ambassador the need for confidentiality.

We have found it's a better way to learn about them and we find that in terms of our relations with our friends at the PRC, they're the best people we know in keeping it secret.

The other point I wish to make to the ambassador relates to

the talks we have had, what we have told on the Southeast Asian situation.

The peace agreement removes a major irritant in our relations, something we, after Joe and I had to talk about a great deal at the beginning of February last year.

I cannot emphasize too strongly the importance we place on

trying to get a decent agreement or a ceasefire in Cambodia, such as we hope to have some collapse.

Here, China has a great problem.

uh to be the cause of a flaring up of

We are not committed to any one man or woman, to any foreign government, to any one government.

What we want

is a government that will bring peace to that troubled country.

But it cannot be peace that comes from the point of gun.

On either side.

There are more elements there that must learn to live together.

There must be basically a coalition.

And then over a period of time, people of Tampa would determine which part of the coalition they feel is the best for their future.

In the meantime, I would greatly appreciate it.

should have as the highest priority to work out some sort of a peace agreement in that way.

Uh, I don't know what that is.

I've talked too much, but I had these things on my mind and I knew that the ambassador was quite aware of the issues.

But these messages, I appreciate his trust.

And on our part, the professor can be assured that any time he has anything that he needs to test, and he can come in, we'll give the doctor a gesture.

We should keep her channel in that direction, however.

Anything that's really confidential, rather than a diplomatic channel.

I don't know if that makes sense.

Diplomatic channels.

I don't know if that makes sense.

I'm very grateful, Mr. President, for receiving me at such a busy time.

Thank you very much.

In my work, I look forward to the support and help

Well, I would say that when we finish this, even prior to the Lord's meeting, we certainly have a connection.

It's very young, 15 years old.

Good to see you again.

Glad to see you.

Give my best to all my voices.

Thank you.