On June 7, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:20 am to 10:04 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 934-005 of the White House Tapes.
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I get George squared away this morning.
Well, on the actions I gave Simon last night that he was working on, I told him to come in with three options, and Simon's doing exactly what they did.
One was the package we looked at.
There's a package with the three add-ons that we discussed on the phone last night.
And the third was an across-the-board freeze, which I personally believe now we should do.
What's that?
What'd you do?
I personally think we should put a freeze on it.
Or should we?
That's my whole opinion, and I am.
I just think these guys are living in a very top-down era.
Absolutely.
Oh, and I appreciate it.
What do you think, though, about all the arguments that even the company agrees with?
The freezes?
It's not a possession of arms, probably.
Yeah, it is, but we're going to have to structure for it.
And it means we're going to have to get a guy who is really going to work for the next 60 days to build a management system for a new phase.
And unlock it.
I'm not really sure that he can.
He's very good.
That's what I mean.
I don't think he, I don't guess that he might.
I think he's kind of, kind of fallen.
You know, I haven't talked to John yet.
He got back late last night.
I probably could have talked to him in the morning, yes, about doing this.
Now, we've got to think about it because I think, you know, we get unsettled in a way.
And maybe I ought to talk to him about it before I do it.
I'd be a little worried if he'd think of me as the wrong one and a false pretense.
Well, Malcolm, you know, it has to be a sacrifice.
It has to be a sacrifice.
It has to be economic.
You know, I almost think it has to be a guidance.
It has to be something that doubles the system.
He knows the best.
I really think Dunlop is the best man.
Well, that's right.
He knows all of this.
He knows the labor problems.
He knows the management problems.
He knows what can follow.
He's not a doctrinaire, as either of the other two.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what does George have?
Did they come in with a three option check?
What is the situation?
Yes, they're pretty.
They were told right away that we had something to do with that.
I mean, we'll be fine as we want.
And George understands this.
He'll never recommend it.
But he certainly prepared to implement it.
What brings me this far, the fact that the Congressmen do it anyway, and the fact that the Public Senate
I said, well, my feeling, God damn it, a big play is needed.
We've got momentum now.
A big play will put you in a leadership position, even if it's a controversial and wrong one.
And it'll show presidential class.
We've got a hell of a problem with all these bills coming up out from the Hill, which exceed our spending limitations, and which we're going to have to take a strong position.
And that gives you a platform for a responsible, holding down,
spending and control in the interest of the people.
I just think it all weaves together, and it's old porridge warmed over.
God damn it.
What comes out of phase four will be difficult to put together, but the right guy can do it.
And I think we ought to get some people in as we prepare for phase four and look like we've got a growing base for life.
If we freeze, they should start preparing for the next day.
That's right.
And we don't have a ready to be in place, so we don't have to, uh...
I talked to Henry earlier this morning.
He probably had sex with me.
Simon, I got that.
I don't know if he thinks he can manage it.
There are notion problems here.
He doesn't really realize how much of a bad guy he's playing with here.
I wasn't sure he had any lines with that ambassador.
That's what's on the line.
He wants the U.S. to just bug out of Asia.
That's what's involved there.
You know that.
Tell me this, though.
I didn't think the U.S. and the United Arab Emirates signed the document.
there's a way that you could adhere or something.
I don't know.
We, Henry can't come back failing on this thing, can he?
No.
Well, actually, what he said was that they're public stands.
You see, this, this agreement is a reinforcement of a motion in terms of January.
So we're more around bypass their public.
Yeah.
Yeah.
His real difficulty is getting them to abide and take care of any reaching the current draft.
He pushed Hanoi about as far as Hanoi could go.
He didn't do well on Cambodia, but did pretty well on everything else.
So I think he's, A, trying to improve it somewhat with Hanoi, and B, waiting for the, I don't, I think the impact of your letter, the ambassador's demarche, has not been, you know,
He might just come back with another jackass letter and so forth.
You know, we're in a real tough position now.
We can't, in the sense that we tune those because we don't want them to look out for two so soon after the darn war is over.
And, you know, for a figure, so he thinks that he's got us by the short hair bottom line.
And what happens is that, on the other hand, Congress is just...
I think Scotland and Cambodia are the first.
Of course, I find it always comes that way before any kind of action.
It's basically coverage, but I know a good soldier wants to know the truth.
But we have Air Force pilots that are, even two pilots that have testified against the constitutionality of the election.
Once the Air Force again,
It's a strange, strange world we're living in now.
They can't like that on wire here.
They were starting to do this in December, you know, something like that.
Well, we had another day yesterday.
This thing has been, they saw it very well.
This is a god-like thing.
to come back, unless he knew the president was asking to be cleaned.
Yeah.
It's just that one hell of a good shot in the arm.
Yeah.
And we've got some, George and did a good job over there yesterday.
They were glad they went.
They reinforced the
a conference that i think it was the announcement that really said it but the dollar went up again and the price of gold dropped rather sharply yesterday now we've got a big problem they played with our hands they leaked the dean papers you know they're in the work of the new york times the whole god damn document oh yes and i told uh
Glenn right now, and Azariah, we need to work out a very sharp statement which will serve as a platform and reinforce our position on documents later.
I'll mention documents, but to say here is almost highly sensitive.
Just lean down and read through one of the three forms that were charged with holding them to the greatest security.
And this is a helpful thing for us.
Well, suppose the paper says we've got it out.
Uh, we've already talked about it on papers.
We want a hypo this, because it'll serve to reinforce the position we take later on White House papers.
It just confirms that there's no paper that can be turned over to these bastards without them being compromised.
Yeah, but I suppose it tells you all those are the papers.
pick out, and selectively, those things that deal only with why it's impossible.
Great.
That's what he's pulling through.
He knows that we're this man's hell.
He'll always do it.
He's after himself, essentially.
And we just have to watch him.
And he wants, very much, he may get hit this morning.
He gets the earshot to get the rock house over there to be his deputy.
That's what they did with the court system, in correcting it.
We haven't done pretty much.
Rob's house is basically no blood.
What's he want in court?
Basically, what's he want to do with St. Byron?
Well, we're going to do something else.
What we promised him in court is important.
I don't like the two of them together, both birds of the same feather.
Well, we've got that problem all together.
No, not today.
Let's not be discouraged about it.
I was going to say, though, Dr. Gardner, let's come back to this paper in the Times.
This is the paper that we referred to as the same one in our opinion.
And we are back to that.
See, they claim that you improved anything in one of the stories here.
presidential paper authorizing illegal activity.
It was recommended by the four agencies.
Did they make that point?
The fact that this was done through a recommendation of the statute already gave theologist experts in the government.
That's right.
So we're, and that, our response, we have all those agreed.
Yeah.
But we have the outrage.
As pointed out in the second statement, it's approved with all of that.
And then, and not implemented because, and not implemented because of the objections of Mr. Hoover.
They don't put that in the story.
They just don't implement it or drop that out.
One of the stories, he just referred to it,
I am speaking to the reader that, uh, hell yes.
You know, these bastards are just shocking.
They've dropped the story, but I suppose they've got to be fucking happy.
I haven't seen no liver without wiretap.
Any liver.
Well, that's going to get her bowels in a number or about 30.
I'm sorry.
I didn't expect you to do it.
Oh, we do.
As a matter of fact, we gain from it.
It helps us very much with the documentation.
And as a matter of fact, if the guy reads the internal climate carefully in that paper, the weather and all that, it's pretty goddamn hammering stuff.
Well, sure.
Five days later, this
That is, that is, we have, we just have a problem here that is just unbelievable with these prostitutes.
They're just enemies.
I've always told you that they're enemies and they're out to get us.
They have been all along now.
And they are so, that's what this is all about.
But Bill, we never recited that, but we still will play it back.
Oh, sure, you can.
coming back first.
I think he's got something.
He's got to sign something over there.
Uh, even without us, I'll be able to go along.
Well, he postponed the meeting this morning together.
Yes.
So we won't hear from
The deal with the Saigon, though, is becoming increasingly, it's just terrible, irritating to me, terribly irritating.
I just think that there'll be an opportunity sometime to get them out.
But the way we've got to do it, we just kind of let them act this way.
There's all of them.
The second point regarding this whole business of papers and so forth.
Uh, as you can see, we had Bizarre, and I'm right, and I remember they were talking about H-1s, and it was good that they did.
But, I think that the point that you make, you do have Bizarre's warning, don't you?
Yes, I, I talked to Bizarre last night, and slowing down.
And, and not having confrontation.
We're not having legal things, so that we run into court and all that sort of thing.
You realize I was even at the court order that I was there on the paper.
I'm sure you do.
And I inquired you.
There's no way that, and as I say, the track record of these passages is working in a popular sense in our favor.
But lately, there's been a question of that.
We've got a lot of people arguing me.
Yeah.
I'm not sure that Brian's reaction is not over, overboard a bit.
on the Washington thing, .
It's good it happened.
But when he says .
Now, people have been saying that .
He would just let them out.
Let them come down and talk to you.
That would be good.
So we said, yeah, we'll go to the conference.
And then we had everybody say, rah, rah.
Bush is the same way.
Well, if you could get rid of Hall and Herman, that would be what we did.
And then they said, now you've got to get rid of the executive privilege on Hall and Herman and Colson and so forth.
And we did.
They said, rah, rah.
And now they're going to say, hey, but you see, that is not the issue.
I really don't think it's the issue.
I think it's the fact, basically, that they're out against the president.
He's got to fight him.
I just think there comes a point where you just stand up and say, we're not going to do it.
We've got to.
I don't know.
I just don't know how else we're going to do it.
They're looking for ways.
I am not going to allow Len or Bizarre or Wright to go into those papers now.
I'll use that.
I'd like you to know, but I don't know if I would in that case.
I really think so.
God damn it, that is.
That can't work.
Another thing that we've got to have clearly understood is that this is simply my notes, if you understand what I'm trying to say.
And that's because of one of the guards that I mentioned to him one time that I had a very basic, clear record of what
We must never, never give them this thing.
If anybody ever asks us on Secret Service, we say, oh, yes, that's a national security stunt.
But you see, the trouble is, you cannot believe me, pal.
We've got to realize that in this shop, you cannot really trust even the most loyal person.
Because they will have to look at it through the eyes and say, oh, well, this could be put up.
I have a feeling right now that we've just got to fight.
That's all there is to it.
They're going to start a deep drawback.
They're going to.
Well, I'll tell you quite frankly, sir, that's one of the reasons I'm coming out today.
I think you move that way strong.
It gives you a platform to handle all the bills coming up, you know, the spending bills.
It gives you a platform to set the direction you use for the work that we all need to do.
Look at your minimum wage, look at this.
You put the heat on the goddamn deal.
I had to lose because they were on the preemptance.
And I've got to run this country.
And then you take the same kind of strong position on these goddamn warranty papers that you are not going to give up on.
Whatever it takes.
That kind of an aura of a strong president who's revitalized the state, who's out doing the things that are in the interest of the people, getting the economy spread away, working on international affairs, getting the energy problem away.
That's the answer.
Because if they don't accomplish right, people are going to be paid a maximum price.
And from this point on, we've got to start reducing that price.
And they're going to dampen the world if they get some.
Well, you know, we...
If you're well aware, you can see now that you're going to get the kind of dust you want to be expecting today.
If you just go on and I'll say, I'm going to go to the roof of the pressure chamber and just throw it in there.
Throw it in there.
Okay, that's brushing them off.
You shouldn't ask about it.
You understand that there's going to be an awful lot of that sort of stuff now.
All this will quickly...
I do not thank God that he must not justify it.
Because they made him look bad.
And he hasn't heard it himself.
He doesn't want to do it.
Dean.
I called Colson.
He's not following his program.
Somebody had to do it.
Huh?
Somebody told my daughter something.
Somebody just played it.
He said that he was, his people were, apparently, talking about the U.S.
Attorneys.
And he put it on there, or whatever it was.
The U.S.
Attorneys, the ones that have been trying to engage, don't like the U.S.
Attorneys.
They've been trying a long, long time.
They are opposed to the U.S.
Attorneys.
That's what he says.
But, I don't know.
Well, I guess that the approach is that they cannot go before them.
for sure, because he's a star in this.
Again, all I would suppose is making the attitude of Brother Cox and his attitude would be to give the humanity a bigger mandate than to give some cheap shots at the president.
That's really what the identity argument is about.
It's that we understand we're about trying to find the guiltiness.
They wouldn't marry him because he's killed himself and they can prove their case.
But the only one, the only man they know who will say he's against the president is John King.
That's the real question.
Well, that is one of the key issues.
But it's also a key inhibitor on their giving community because they know they open themselves up to a blatant charge of doing just that.
That's what we need to do.
Oh, and this is the people who are driving.
That's the way he sleeps.
Heather, of course, then, he, uh, he's supposed to be in charge of it.
He's quite proud of it.
And if he can't get you, the fact that he's let Dean off will make him look like a goddamn fool.
So, you're exactly right, but the implications of it are also what he was showing off.
They let it hang there.
All of us, the only guy in the press of time, can answer anything.
And, you know, because it's reduced itself to a simple two-in-one.
This real, this real trump card could only be that the documents that he has would only take hold of the Constitution.
I don't, if he had one, I don't think they'd be bad, but I mean, you know what I mean?
I never know what you're saying, but sometimes.
That would only be out of the question.
Anything that would come out of that would be explainable.
That's something.
That's something.
At worst, it could be an embarrassment of a further nuance.
See, the further thing, the only thing I was thinking, see, I know all the conversations that have been placed before with Tony.
I have a problem with that.
I know everything.
Not that it occurred to me first when we had that, when he came in and started that.
Now the question is, what...
whether or not I made any reference further to whether Hunt was coming.
See, let me tell you the concern I had about that.
The concern that I had about that was not Watergate at all.
The concern I had about this business of turning in for Hunt was that Hunt was going, had threatened to expose our national security to them.
Am I right?
So I think if, I don't think anything was said, but if he does, first, he could lie.
Second, he could say, we just say what the court starts to say about the national security, that I was investigating this and things like that.
Fortunately, in fact, in 2013, Adam was investigated.
We go into all sorts of things, you know, we run up every track.
It's right in the president's head.
You know, there's an awful mix of stuff.
So, Sanders here, the president of the United States, can't see a priority to shape these investigations.
And if only he could make these judgments on national security, that's the authority given to him by the Constitution.
Yeah.
I, uh... Well, he might play it, apparently.
We're just trying to keep his conscience shut up, and he doesn't want to hear anything.
It's not true.
That's good to carry the list.
I've been trying to get the truth about Watergate out, but he wouldn't get us, he wouldn't give it to us.
He's got a very dangerous case there, and he's starting to go down that line.
Why, he didn't write a report.
Why, he never told them before.
That case developed properly.
He, it's different, I think.
They'll hurt him, call him, and they'll have a lot more.
I think he did, as I look back.
But that's not my problem.
He sure as hell didn't tell me, and they didn't tell me.
The problem is, you see, that's not so bad, because they, they're going to be very, very, uh,
I think they will.
They've got embarrassing things to explain, but they'll explain.
Let me tell you this.
I think that the Cox
And then let the U.S. and then let the Justice Department go ahead and infuse, of course, an indictment.
See, this talks about delay, delay, delay, and if he, if he goes around, out on the plus side, and there are some pluses, I guess.
You know, it's Cox again, having a little struggle with Irving.
That's where, that's where we are.
And that's the one we have.
He said, now we want to put them in a closed door.
They'll tell me.
Got rejected.
See, he's building a case himself.
He's fighting a defensive action.
There you go.
It diffused his funny essence with us.
He was getting into the airway constantly.
His bizarre plan to get to the darn team dates up to the committee.
You know, they went for old lawyers, and sometimes they don't think otherwise.
He did that to me.
Yes, sir.
I understand.
But I talked to him about the pace of it then, too, with the, you know, not to be getting into a goddamn funeral or anything like that.
No, sir.
No, sir.
Take time.
Now, if they want all of us, every time you've been in this office, that's going to take us three months.
Oh, do you realize that?
Yeah, absolutely.
Three months.
A hundred?
Months?
Right.
funny thing that they want to go up even into the period past the 30th of april i have not talked to her or him at all i talked to colson a couple of times because he's on his broadcast
because he wanted to know if his arms were fine, what he had to do.
But for my son, because he had to reveal the conversation with his shirt, it didn't bother him.
I've talked about Baldwin's room, but about a lot of things that have to do with transition.
They've referred to now and the rest, and I don't continue to do that.
I cannot, and that we can't be unoffensive about a thing like that, because I'm not talking about a stand-up show.
Some stories that were circulated the day before yesterday that if you were in constant touch with the cults over there, all of them, they were still really about to run into White House.
I did not run into White House.
And I'll tell you one thing, all of the next church members, John and all of them are not getting money.
I'm trying to help them.
Truly, I will.
through uh letting them write a history of the first trying to solve the three-year dynamic you know we had that under control both what i call
Well, good, I'm proud of that.
Because I can't get into that.
I can't.
I can't get into the fundraising thing.
Certainly, I can authorize that.
You're right.
And they're just early in the first year, and they sell it for whatever they want.
You're not talking to me about it now.
Let me tell you that neither of all of them are urgent.
I've never talked to her at all.
have ever mentioned anything that has to do with running the White House.
They were informed.
I had a little boy out here call Bob and John and tell them, before they announced it on the letter, that they ought to know that interview.
I thought they had a right to know that.
I say totally right.
But they were not willing to hear it.
These men are honorable men.
And I said, gee, I got this all over the hills.
And I said, no, that's absolute crap.
I said, the president had, I don't think, even talked about it.
Colson made me once on preparations which involved getting the loss of these men.
They were key men here.
And I said, he's had a couple of conversations with five other men.
without being able to talk to the man who was his right-hand man for four years, for Christ's sake.
But he played it well.
He played it strong.
Your meeting with him was one and a half, two, that was just right.
Let's make this cabinet meeting today, let's try to do it in a way of an office meeting.
That's right.
I've got to say, we haven't announced it at 11 o'clock, because you see, with Jerry...
a few there, they'll gas around for a while.
I think, I don't think they'll switch into the ice and so on.
I don't think they'll do anything about that.
I'll just, I'll spend five minutes at the end if we have that much time.
Now, we have asked the two cabinet officers to report.
Yes.
And let's have a little of that.
But what do I say about the economic thing?
I'll say we're continuing to work on it.
Any views that you have, shall I tell them to pass on the bottom shelves?
Yeah.
Sure, please.
I'll send it to, uh, you want to tell him that I invited him to spend the weekend at the camp that he could have been good for, and that he and his wife, if anybody else wants, nobody else will be there.
I'll, I'll text him.
No, he wants it there.
That's my point.
Take his team.
I think that's a good idea.
Go up there, and I want to be ready to go.
So I can go ready to go on Monday.
I think in terms of a move, we ought to make it about Tuesday.
That's my idea.
How does that sound?
That's exactly what I was looking for.
We have to move fast.
Because look, that's what you're doing.
You're all in the crisis.
You're in anticipation of that.
We've got to roll her back a little.
And the purpose of the 60-day HSE is to get any good programming.
Then we can say, in this period, I ask the Congress to do this and this.
In this period, the Cost of Living Council will do this and this and this.
And in this period, the development of the system, and I ask all Americans to do operating and so forth and so on.
Thank you very much.
And in this period, we will work with the leaders of business, industry, labor,
It may be that this one, if it is this breeze, might have to go on all day.
If it's that big, that's nice.
Get a writer in here.
As I said before, before you went with that, then he prepared it for me.
It was unbelievably good.
No, that was really good.
right and take all of them
We've got to get it.
You see, we're doing a lot of therapy with this cancer.
I think we must do it before it's down.
This is enough, but this is not.
They thought we should have a picture here.
Absolutely.
No, I would like that, sir.
I would like to have pictures in here.
Yeah.
Let's take one, two lines.
I'm sorry, I didn't expect you to do it.
Oh, we do deserve to do it.
As a matter of fact, we gain from it.
It helps us very much with the documentation.
And as a matter of fact, if the guy reads the internal climate carefully in that paper, the weather and all that, it's pretty goddamn hammering stuff.
Well,
Sure.
Five days later, .
That's right.
That is it.
That is it.
We just have a problem here that is just unbelievable.
There's enemies.
I've always told .
They're enemies and they're out to get us.
They have been all along now.
Oh.
And they are so, that's what this is all about.
How about Bill?
We never lose sight of that, but we still will play the best of it.
Oh, sure, you can.
Well, coming back in two or three days,
so we won't hear from him
It's awful.
The second point in regard to this whole business of papers and so forth.
As you see, we had Bazaar in that right environment where they're talking about H-1s.
And it was good that they did.
But I think that the point that you make, you did have Bazaar in the morning.
Yes, I talked to Bazaar last night.
And slowing down.
And not having confrontation.
We're not having legal things so that we run into court and all that sort of thing.
You realize I was even at the court order that I was there on the paper.
I'm sure you do.
And I'm, and I'm quite a dude.
There's no way that, and as I say, the track record of these passages is working in a popular sense in our favor.
Lately, we've had many questions about it.
We've got a lot of people arguing with me.
Yeah.
I'm not sure that, that Brian's reaction is not over, overboard a bit.
um people have been saying that
that is not the issue i really don't think it's the issue i think it's the fact basically that
I just think there comes a point where you just stand up and say, we're not going to do it.
We've got to.
I don't know.
I just don't know how else we're going to do it.
But they're looking for ways.
I am not going to allow Len or Bizarre or Wright to go into those papers now.
Not even that.
I'd like you to know, but I don't know.
I really think so.
That we can't work.
Another thing that we've got to have clearly understood is that this is simply my notes.
And that because of one of the guards that I mentioned in one time that I had a very basic, clear record of what
We must never, never give them this thing.
If anybody ever asks us on the Secret Service schedule, we say, oh, yes, that's a national security stunt.
But you see, the trouble is, you cannot believe me, pal.
We've got to realize that in this shop, you cannot really trust even the most loyal person.
Because they will look at it through the eyes and say, oh, well, this could be put up.
I have a feeling right now that we just got to fight.
That's all there is to it.
They're going to start to keep drawing.
They're going to.
Well, I'll tell you quite frankly, Sid, that's one of the reasons I don't want to .
I think you move that way, strong.
It gives you a platform to handle all the bills coming up, you know, the spending bills.
It gives you a platform to set the direction you need to go from all the .
Look at your minimum wage, look at this.
You put the heat on the goddamn deal.
I had to lose because they were on the preemptance, and I've got to run this country.
And then you take the same kind of strong position on these goddamn warranty papers that you are not going to give up on.
Whatever it takes.
That kind of an aura of a strong president who's revitalized the state, who's out doing the things that are in the interest of the people, getting the economy spread away, working on international affairs, getting the energy problem away.
That's the answer.
Because they don't accomplish right.
People are already paid the maximum price.
And from this point on, we've got to start reducing that price.
And they're going to dampen the world if they get some.
Well, you know, we say that
If you're not aware, you see now that we're going to get the kind of dust from the effect of that.
If you just go on there, I'll say, I remember earlier, we were really pressured.
Earlier than that.
Earlier than that, yeah.
Okay, that's brushing them off.
Yeah.
You didn't ask about it.
You understand that there's going to be an awful lot of that sort of stuff now.
All this will be.
He must not justify it.
Because they made him look bad.
And he had to purge it himself.
He didn't want to do it.
Dean.
I called Colson.
He's been following his program.
Somebody had to do it.
We did do it.
Somebody told my daughter's son in this place.
He said that he was, his people were talking about it.
The US attorneys, the ones that have been trying to engage, don't like being in that community.
They've tried long, too long, and they are opposed to being in the community.
That's what he says.
But I'm going to ask you to be opposed to it.
You cannot know beforehand.
You must have terrible reservations about it.
You've done it long beforehand, for sure, because you just started it.
Again, all I would suppose that making the attitude of Brother Cox, that his attitude would be to give the community a bigger mandate than to give some cheap shots at the president.
See, that's really what the community is about.
If the units then were about trying to find the guiltiness, they wouldn't have it, because he's killed himself, and they threw their cases out there.
He's also a key inhibitor on their giving for immunity because they know they open themselves up to a blatant charge and do it just that.
That's what they do.
Oh, and they say that people will charge him.
That's the way he's looked.
Yeah, there are worse than him.
He, uh, he throws himself in charge, but he's quite correct.
And if he can't get you, the fact that he's let Dean off will make him look like a goddamn fool.
So, you're exactly right, but the implications of it are also even shared, aren't they?
Well, that took some deep consideration from them.
They let it hang there.
All of us, the only guys present back, can answer anything.
And, you know, because it's, it's, it's reduced itself to the simple two on the one.
It's real.
It's real.
It could only be that the documents that he has would only take toll on the Constitution.
I don't, if he had them, I don't think they'd be bad.
You know what I mean?
I never know what he says in federal law sometimes.
We don't know that.
That would only be out of the fun section.
Anything that would come out of that would be excellent.
That's what, that's what we need.
at worst it could be embarrassing see the further thing the only thing i was thinking yeah i know all the conversations whether or not
I made any reference further to whether Hunt was coming.
Indeed, let me tell you the concern I had about that.
The concern that I had about that was not Watergate at all.
The concern I had about this business attorney, or Hunt, was that Hunt was going to have to threaten to expose our national security to them.
Am I right?
So I don't think anything was said.
But if he does, first, he could lie.
Second, he could say, we just say, well, of course, I was concerned about the national security.
But I was investigating this and things haven't quite been used.
Fortunately, it's back in the 1930s.
And we're investigating.
We go into all sorts of things.
You know, we run off every trip.
You know, there's an awful mix of stuff.
So Sanders here, the President of the United States, can't see a priority to shape these investigations.
And if only he could make these judgments on national security, that's the authority given to him by the Constitution.
Yeah.
I, uh... Well, he might play at the parents if they were just trying to keep on shut-out the details of Watergate.
That's not true.
I couldn't care less.
I was trying to get the truth about Watergate out, but he wouldn't get us, he wouldn't give it to us.
He's got a very timeless case there and he's starting to go down that line.
Why he didn't write a report?
Why he never told them before?
That case is developed properly.
He is different, I think.
They'll hurt him, call him, and they'll have a lot more.
I think he did, as I look back.
But that's not my problem.
He sure as hell didn't tell me, and they didn't tell me.
Probably, you see, that's not so bad because they, they will be very dirty and...
I think they will.
They've got embarrassing things they're explaining, but they'll explain.
Let me tell you this.
I think that the Cox
and then let the u.s and then let the justice department go ahead and choose of course
See, this talk's been delayed and delayed and delayed, and if he goes around, how?
On the plus side, and there are some pluses, I guess.
You know, this caucus, again, had a little squabble.
That's what we want.
And that's the one we have.
He said, now we want to put them in a closed door.
They'll tell me.
I reject it.
See, he's building a case himself.
He's fighting a defensive action.
His bizarre plan to get to the darn team dates up to the committee.
You know, they went for old lawyers, so sometimes they don't think otherwise.
He did that to me.
Yes, sir.
I understand.
But I talked to them about the pace of the thing, too, with the, you know, not to be getting into a goddamn funeral or action that's going to send the doctors back.
Oh, sir.
Oh, sir.
If you take the time.
Now, if they want all of us, every time you've been in this office, that's going to take us three months.
Oh, three months?
Yeah, absolutely.
Three months.
A hundred?
Months?
Right.
Yeah.
funny thing that they want to go up even in a period of even past the 30th of april i have not talked to her earlier at all i talked to colson a couple of times
because he wanted to know what his arms and his mind were going to do.
But for my son, because he had to reveal the conversation with his shirt, it didn't bother me.
I've talked to Bob Baldwin, certainly, about a lot of things that have to do with transition.
They've referred to now and the rest, and I don't continue to do that.
I cannot, and that we can't be unoffensive about a thing like that, because I'm not talking to a bystander.
Some stories that were circulated the day before yesterday that if you were in constant touch with the cults over there, they were still really about to run into White House.
I did not run into White House.
And I'll tell you one thing, all of the next church families, John and all of them are not getting money.
I'm trying to help them.
I will, through letting them write a history of the person trying to sell the food you're dying at, for example.
And so that's a big project in progress.
You know, we had that under control.
Farley and Sautner both, what I call, quick on messaging me, and they don't need me.
And there's a classmate of Bob's family,
Well, good, I'm proud of that.
Because I can't get into that.
I can't.
I can't get into the fundraising thing.
Certainly, I can authorize that if you're ready.
And they're just early in the first year, and they sell it for whatever they want.
I mean, neither of us are in a hurry.
I never want to hurry at all.
ever mentioned anything that has to do with running the white house they were informed i had a little boy out here call bob and john and tell them before they announced and that's going to be the best
and I got this all over the hill with someone, and I said, no, that's absolute crap.
I said, apparently, I don't think you can talk there over this.
Colson made me once on peripherals, which involved getting philosophies, and they were key men here.
And I said, he said a couple of conversations about all of them and how they all speak.
to run the government without being able to talk to the man who was his right-hand man for four years, for Christ's sakes.
He played it strong.
Your meeting with him was fun.
I had to do that.
It was just great.
Let's make this cabinet meeting today.
Let's try to do it in a way of an office meeting.
That's right.
I got to say, we haven't announced it until 11 o'clock.
Because you see, with Jerry...
you there they'll gas around for a while i think i think uh i don't think they don't need nothing about that i'll just spend five minutes at the end we have that much time now we have asked the uh true captain officers to report yes and uh let's have a little of that but at least what do i say about the economic thing i'll say we're continuing to work on any views if you have a challenge
I'll send it to, um, you might find that I would like her to spend the weekend with him.
And if he and his wife, if anybody else wants, nobody else will be there.
How's that sound to you?
All right.
If you do, then it works.
No, he can work up there.
That's my point.
Take his team.
I think that's a good idea.
Go up there, and I want to be ready to get there.
So I can go ready to go on Monday.
I think we ought to make it about Tuesday.
That's my idea.
How does that sound?
That's exactly what I was looking for.
We have to move fast.
Because what fast that you're doing, you're all in the crisis.
You're in anticipation of action.
We're going to roll back.
We're going to roll back.
You've got to roll her back a little.
And the purpose of the 60-day HSE is to get me good programming.
That means, in this period, I ask the Congress to do this and this.
In this period, the Customs and Living Council will do this and this and this.
And in this period, the development of the system, and I ask all American people operating and so forth and so on.
Thank you very much.
And in this period, we will work with the leaders of business, industry, labor,
It may be that this one, if it is the spree, might have to go at all.
If it's that big, that's going to get a writer in here.
As I said before, it was an argument, but then he prepared it for me.
It was unbelievably good.
No, that was really good.
right and take all
And then I'll call the two candidates.
And we've got to get the, you see, we're doing a lot of therapy with this candidate.
And I think, but we must do it before it's down.
This is enough, but this is not.
They thought we should have a picture here.
Absolutely.
No, I would like to have a picture.
I would like to have pictures in here.
Yeah.
Let's say one or two lines.