On June 11, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:05 am to 9:45 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 935-004 of the White House Tapes.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
consultation with the leadership.
Tim feels that we ought to get them tonight also, so that as we're doing the labor,
He said, well, I... Now, Henry, you'll see this morning, I think we've got that.
I guess I'm going to call him.
Why don't you call me?
There's a little disagreement with me, and the question is, does he tell Q that we've got to go and go back to Paris?
We delay it because we cannot reduce the congressional deadline.
And for another deadline, I would just like it to be as easy as possible to let it go.
You just work it to make it go ahead.
Then if we're going to raise it, it's going to go ahead.
He's got what I wrote him off on.
He has 72 hours to do a little more on the ground fighting than what he's done.
He's done well, generally, in that party.
It's probably the better part of ours to go ahead and take the risk.
There's no question about it.
Last week, they held me over to the press.
Goddamn, we traded forms.
These guys have been highly supportive of their personnel changes
Debate is focused now on substance.
I think we're going to slip way, way down.
Consciousness of the press, all we have to make talk shows about the fact that we're in the reorganization.
And it will all construct.
All of them, even the shits, will construct.
Listen to people like that.
Just can't even listen up.
General Craig.
So, I don't know why it was scary to me to figure out that this is the best thing that he's seen.
Well, he didn't want to get lost.
But he had to do one thing about the Jackson thing.
I thought that was a shocking thing for him to say that's the New York Times.
Finally, I ended that line and had to do it.
Oh.
Which is too sad, people.
I've been very curious.
But as I remember, Jack still got his grades at 76, and he's a candidate.
He's got variables that he can't be.
He managed to get out of the campaign in six years, and variables he can't be ever since.
Despite the fact that he was not a candidate.
I think he's decided to be a stalking horse straight on through here.
But I've heard of Petra.
This would be a chance.
get congressional support moving for the president.
We're trying to get through the pandemic, particularly with E.E.
Jackson coming on.
This is a great thing, a piece of the world and all that sort of thing.
And we need to start being part of it.
We've got to go forward with this meeting.
We're in a strong bargaining position.
They want it.
We want it.
And they're going to do some very significant agreements.
And all this is certainly going to do to be the lead in the U.S. position before the meeting.
Now, how, why in the world, though, can I ask, why didn't you send us such a flat last week?
Well, I think, yes, actually the press is still
and has not taken, it's gotten a play, but it's not being supported by the left-wing press.
The left-wing press is, you know, what their natural words are, is to make this a great love feast.
And that's what we have.
Let's make a love feast.
That's right.
And we've got to, what we can do now is to get some congressional...
I think we need a plan this week.
I can't emphasize too strongly on it.
Here's where we miss with all of his terrible falls.
He would always get a game on our call.
We've got a list of service and officers who can speak out.
There are all sorts of people up there that a few calls could be made, and all of a sudden they will start.
I don't want to, you know, I don't want to carve it.
That's my player that is here.
He can help a lot on that.
And Harlow will help the armistice.
But you see, it's a question of our people taking the offensive on this so that the Jackson State doesn't appear to be the only one that's going to do it.
We've got to do that.
But you were saying somebody would come back in the area, at least from the Republican side, and you had to choose your better way to the arm.
Because of the letter and so forth.
Why don't you say something?
What do you think?
Get forward and shout and say, here's the time we need you, folks.
Get a cold water and get somewhere.
and said, here's the time we need you, folks.
Get gold water in or somebody.
Here's the time we need you, Barry.
And this is a very important thing.
It's really good.
Another thing, would you do a personal thing for me?
I'd like for you to call first, and you could say that we were in Florida, and the president was very touched by the letter, and say that, and he gave us a term.
And after we get through Russia, he'd like to talk to us.
But basically, by the fact that he and Richardson had interpreted Percy's call for special counsel as a lie, a vote of confidence, a vote of non-confidence in Richardson, and that I was just shocked that he would do that, that Scott had assured me that we had learned later that he was, that this whole thing for special counsel
I'd like to say that we like to see him under the lead, that the president has really got warm against this, that he doesn't turn.
But if you get stoned, it won't hurt.
We're getting there.
This is a weather day.
We'll talk to some other people.
We are all going to be agitated this week to get on this bicycle and go out there and get some of these people to line up.
This is the week that the city of Nevada gets back to you.
But I mean, hello.
I know I can't put this burden on you.
This is something to do.
And I'm gonna give it to you.
nail on that.
That's the greatest symbol down here.
That's Stephanie.
But I don't want to.
I don't want to.
I don't want to.
I don't want to.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Strong.
man in the economic field who combines the really, uh, political plan with economic sense.
Like, Ed just turned it against the plan and signed it in a different way.
Ed says he sees no reason why he didn't have to go from the freeze to, uh, to the phase two.
He said he would hope, he wouldn't, uh, sign it and say it's an effective plan.
Now, if you are going to do that because you didn't want to do that,
He just wanted to talk the truth.
And yet, what Larry talks about is, I'm concerned about, do we have any choice?
The Congress will not stand if he goes all the way to traction controls.
They just won't do it.
The idea that Peter Lange and other girls are out of the effect, I have a life on this basis, so I'm talking to everybody.
Yeah, it's kind of, it's making, it's got to be a little bit tougher towards control.
Yeah.
And that's, that's what I was going to say.
That's where the emphasis has to be if there's any in that package.
And we've got to stay a little fuzzier.
That's the final action.
Now, Connolly will be very strong.
People have to
Yeah.
Strong man in the economic field who combines the beauty.
Yes, he's right.
Like, I hear people sitting there reading this.
Well, that's the first question they'll ask.
Where do you go with the M's and 3's?
That's the plan.
And science is everything.
Everybody says it won't take 60 days.
He wouldn't sign it and say it doesn't affect the bank claim.
Now, if you are going to do that, why not basically just don't have it?
We have a major man in the economic field.
Let's go to option one.
I can't.
The Congress will not stand.
They just won't do it.
At the end of the period, I hear that Peter Lane, you know, burglars are out of the effect.
I can, you know, I have the life and the work of mine.
So they want to
They're afraid it's a longer control on the country about freedom and the rest.
It will work with people who are in the workplace.
It's like adding a plan for a difficult transition.
8% more for me now.
It will not work.
No, I think we have to do it.
My only, as I look at it, and sign it in a different way.
Actually, you see, no, no, but Larry read this paper and said that
He said that they, yeah, reason why they had to go from the free option to, yeah, I don't see any question.
It's made to, uh, to say to, it's tough to be a real teacher.
It's tougher to have control.
Yeah.
And that he said he would hope, he wouldn't,
So that's where the emphasis has to be if there's any impact.
So that's the same thing.
And we've got to stay.
There's one thing that's a little fuzzier.
Remember Tushar.
He doesn't want to do that.
He doesn't want to do that.
He doesn't want to do that.
He doesn't want to do that.
He doesn't want to do that.
And you have to know where you're going and talk into the spree.
So that's his.
That's Larry.
And that's what Larry talks about.
Yeah.
And it's well taken on the other hand.
So we're not as weak as we.
So then I'm concerned about.
Where you want to keep enough flexibility not to get as we were.
Yes, he's right.
People will, that's the first question.
They'll ask, where do you go with him?
The idea that Peter Lane, you know, burbles around, burbles in the trees.
I don't want to say, don't introduce him.
I heard you said 60 days.
I think that I can, you know, I have a life in this.
We've seen the final version of the option one.
You know, I think we have to do it.
At the end of the period, so they want to make sure that the lower controls are in the transition.
Yes, it's me.
No, but Larry said have a seat.
It's tough to be a little bit tougher.
It's pretty much an option, too.
Yeah, I don't see any questions.
We do have a little bit of fuzzy here.
He will be very strong.
People have to know about as weak as we were and as we were.
You know where you're going at the end of the spree.
So that's his mind and sound and concern.
That's where I'll take it on the other hand.
You want to keep enough flexibility?
Yeah.
I don't think he's seen it.
Yes, he's right.
People will ask where he goes.
Why not?
I don't know.
at the end of the period so they will not be considered with our guidance for purpose.
The reason is to be a short duration on equipment.
They're afraid that the longer the controls are in the more difficult
That's not good.
That's not good.
Yeah, I don't see any question.
There we go.
Is the export license consistent?
No, it's cold hit.
It isn't hit.
When and then what export license?
It's one thing.
Yes.
It's consistent.
We're going to make it a two-shirt.
It's going to be whatever we introduce.
Export license.
It's not going to be a two-shirt.
It's going to be a two-shirt.
We do have a layer here.
What are we doing?
These burglars are out of their mind.
I just couldn't talk.
We will insult the other guy and just forget it.
I'm sad.
But that's not the case.
We're going to make sure that we're going to say, well, hey, come on, how do you think about that?
Sorry.
We're not.
We just.
We.
I know.
Work classes.
Work.
Is this every taxable corporation plan?
Sure.
And as we work, that's something we can control.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's legislation.
This is...
We'll be right back.
Oh, yeah.
I'm on YouTube.
At the end,
I know that that will be due at a time when the economy is at full production.
It would have to work with
This was immediately after World War II.
There is a shortage of black markets.
How can you buy all that?
You have so many years to be a charterer.
I don't know.
We go without the option to a demand, right?
We've made that impossible.
I hope it will not work.
See, this isn't a bad deal for you to use for support.
Because if you put a thing into, by the way, you're not getting any time to determine what to do.
Thank you very much for this.
At a time like this, when the economy is down, whether or not you're going to be stronger than this, well, that'll be great.
You have so many demands, right?
Are you going to be ready by Tuesday?
Do we have any possible solution?
I hope that this will not be hard.
in the next four elections.
Four or five weeks in the next county will determine what to do.
Congratulations, gentlemen.
Whether it be stronger this year.
I'm really sure that this is going to be a win in the next four elections.
Well, Valerie, even though I'm not certain to begin with the comments,
It's just not, you know what I mean?
It's got to be on the right.
I was around to a window like this.
They're wrong to enter it.
We'll consult another guy.
We had a function company to do it with, but it's been here a third year.
Got it.
That's not good.
I'm kidding.
They're here in Berlin.
We're out again for another year.
I didn't write the diary myself.
I just figured out what to do with it.
But I've lost confidence in it now.
I'm really terribly disappointed with George on this case.
This shows that when the tips are down, he had a problem.
I think it's this.
The real tough one is the food, raw foodstuffs.
That's the problem, and yet... Again, the front of the bridge control oven has never worked in history.
It's almost a case of generating...
Alright.
I didn't have any additional shortages because the agriculture doesn't work properly.
Right.
Right.
I figured I wouldn't do that.
Alright.
Alright.
Alright.
Alright.
Alright.
Alright.
It shows that when I checked her down, he had a couple.
That's not taking control.
I agree with this.
Four or five weeks later, I gave him that.
Then, just when he got his gut energy, he was like, I don't know.
We are going to obviously pay him for he has not worked.
We're trying to do.
Well, he doesn't regret it.
Because it was too broad, too abrupt a...
I shouldn't say that.
See, I think it's... That's why... A transition to a more open course, which we still believe that the real problem is the food, raw foodstuffs.
It's the best one person for this course, for this country to pursue.
Rather than to test the problem, and yet if you get into firm rigid control of it, it's never working.
Of course, we've got to control it.
Perpetual rigid controls with all of the pitfalls in history.
It's almost a full-case system.
Well, the data that we use to present Blackwater and all of those particular... Just get a great additional...
We do anticipate a transition will have to be.
Well, I think you could say, all right, we're praying a free song.
Indefinitely at a time and a duration.
and they are trying to explain to us what we're going to have to work.
That's why I gave him that.
Then he said, strenuous amputation.
We are going to phase three at the end of this period.
Obviously, all that I've been hearing is he's pretty hesitant with special illnesses or because, you know, they're being prevented.
It was where he got too drunk to do it.
the creation of a transition to the essence of insurances.
We're open, of course, in order to meet what we still believe is the best course for our health as a country to pursue rather than to take the course of perpetual
We anticipate a transition will have to be.
This is more qualified at a time when international demands are .
That's a growing domestic demand.
And therefore, we are going to have .
Strenuous adaptation to phase three at the end of this period was .
in order to meet foreign obligations.
And the plan ahead of the show is, well, it's not here.
It's all back in there.
I think that's the hard part about it.
I think it's a good thing.
I think it's a good thing.
I'm sure they're not about that.
I think it's a good thing.
I think it's a good thing.
I think it's a good thing.
We have a chance to settle in.
I think it's all that sort of thing, something in between.
There's a sensible course of action, and it's, you know, I don't know what you're writing about later.
But we cannot do something.
That's what they're saying, do something.
I'm sorry, but we have to do something.
But I think we're fairly close to the PCPAC and CERA.
But at this instance, the board and all the synonyms.
And Flannigan and Schultz and Stein are all doctrinaries.
I know that that's not useful.
That will not work.
Burgers is off bourbon around about $9.
Well, you know, we'd like to go without into this, um, in the actual sense.
In other words, it's certainly something in between the charges and black lines.
At the end,
Because if you put them together very quickly, tomorrow, we know what we're doing.
If we had time, we know what we're doing.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
All right.
Thank you very much.
whether it be stronger than this.
Well... Well, that's a really enormous uncertainty to begin with.
Next part of controls and standby.
Standby.
No.
I put the next part of controls on and then you get the next part of controls and standby.
No.
Put the next part .
You can be ready by this is the way this is going.
This is just .
uh... uh...
That's the way.
That's the city that we are going to start controlling.
That's the way.
That's the city that we are going to start controlling.
That's the city that we are going to start controlling.
Bye.
Bye.
We've got to have
We've got to have certainty.
We've got to do something.
I think we're in a bad state of years.
I think we're in a bad state of years.
That shows it.
And I don't sense it.
I think we're in a bad state of years.
That shows it.
I think we're very close to my hair.
I'm not in a position to panic.
I don't think we're trying to do anything.
I don't think we're doing anything.
I don't think we're doing anything.
I don't think we're doing anything.
Thank you for your confidence.
There's no desperation being here.
It's not too well.
It really is.
I think it's a position.
There's a lot of businessmen like you.
There's a lot.
Well, it really is, you know, I mean, just read today's summary.
It's almost a case of the weekend talk show.
Well, this is my life, but you know.
We're all very constructive.
That's why we've been generating additional shortages because of agriculture that we first held some day after some day.
Well, you said that at least last week there was a lot of this weekend.
They were all positive.
Right.
Well, I think you could say, all right, kill anything later.
Is that for Sunday and this weekend, and they're all positive?
Is that said by anybody else?
Yes.
Great.
They say that we are going to obviously pay him free.
That's the only thing.
I'm going to walk in later.
I'm going to have to stop the job right now.
I'm going to have to work right now.
And that's another illustration of that.
I don't know what they did.
Two of them brought a transition to a more open and very decided conclusion by the way they were going to shape the whole institution.
uh rather than to take the course uh
That seems true.
Just got a bit more play that's been going on with those particular ones.
I don't know how, but they didn't.
We just hope the Democratic Congress can come out with something.
We do anticipate a transition.
No way, everybody.
Well, remember, we made a run with that.
Therefore, we are going to have more.
All these people.
This isn't the first one.
He just had.
He's been signing this.
At the end of this period, with special.
I don't mean to say that I just got that more play.
...creation of domestic shop.
...democratic caucuses come out with something on that respect.
That would be very bad.
...in order to meet foreign obligations.
...this lined up.
It is so obvious as the nose on my face.
I think that's where Tim is kind of obvious.
I know he's working.
He's probably working on a pretty big one now.
We talked about it.
that we have a chance to settle in.
Well, that's very strong.
Yes, sir.
Very strong.
Well, that's good.
I'm going to have a game plan in here.
I think that's a sensible course of action.
And you gave that humbanger of a speech on instant analysis.
I just wanted to get some people
That's a lot.
That's hilarious.
That was in my face.
and some of his people.
Bill always says he wants you to call him.
I mean, call him.
He's a very good parent.
He's off burping around about nine.
I mean, it's weak.
He's got his marker.
Very strong.
Yes, sir.
Very strong.
Fair enough.
Sure.
It's going to be good for most people, but this is a tough time.
It makes a little
I'm thinking a mayor or a speaker, certainly something in between.
It'll be this one.
He's done analysis again.
He's very strong support.
He didn't do too well here for the president, which he had quite frankly not done.
Watergate.
No, no, no.
Somebody ought to go see George H. Maybe Bill Rogers.
That he was talking about at the convention.
Oh, yes.
Thank you.
Well, we'd like to talk a little bit tomorrow.
Well, that's all right.
Go ahead.
Can I take a minute?
Bill always says he wants you to call.
All right, call it.
I'm thinking it'll be this week at least.
He didn't do too well here last week.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Here's my well
The primary wall is very good.
Very good editorials on Colby over at CIDA.
All we came home with were the actors.
I mean, when he hits, he was a go-ahead.
All right.
All right.
All right.
I'm going to go to Payne.
I'm going to call Payne to reply.
Payne.
Payne.
Payne, do it with me.
You want to find out if he doesn't fix part of the safety controls that he's got to get behind, and it's going to stand by.
No, get the man.
But some of you are worried about the strength of our tape, right?
And then you get rid of them separately, and you're going to be able to use a compact or a straighter.
You're going to be able to use a compact or a straighter.
We've got to hide the word.
We've got to hide the word.
We've got to hide the word.
We've got to hide the word.
Good.
What are the...
Yeah.
Yeah.
He cares about you.
No, he ain't.
He's got Einstein.
Einstein, which I'm married to, so I didn't know.
That's what's up to me.
I'm sorry, and I've got to go to work.
That's what I do, too.
I mean, it was more of that than water.
For a while.
But, uh, I don't have any security.
Uh, but, uh, he has a man.
We've got to have certainty.
We've got to do something.
Mr. President, we've got a problem with the leadership of the country.
But he's a good
I don't, uh, I don't think we're in a bad state here.
I think we can get this, get it packaged together into this group.
I think we're fairly close to them.
And I don't sense that there's no desperation to be, uh, you know, not in a position to panic or, uh, uh, I don't think there's a lot of cocking going on,
Well, you said that at least last week there was someone who would turn around and do an editorial.
Unbelievable.
Just read today's summary.
The weekend talk shows were all very constructive.
That's where we've been getting our worst hell, Sunday after Sunday, and this weekend, and they're all positive.
Kelly thing later.
Pressure coming up, some anticipation of that.
And a very decided conclusion by all that you're here to set.
Is that it?
Is that it?
They were going to shake the whole institution.
Their back came over and expanded us.
He did the right thing.
Why can't we actually get it now?
Well, remember, he made a run of that a week ago.
This isn't the first one.
He's been saying this for a week.
Just got a bit more play this week, man.
Well, we just hope the Democratic Congress can come out with something on that respect.
I don't have a date plan in here.
I don't need to see it.
I just want them to get out there and get some people.
And I want you to get them to see it.
They need to be out getting this stuff lined up.
It is so obvious as the nose on my face.
These are pretty big women.
They just can't pay for it.
You've got to get going now.
You can talk about it finally.
Yes, we talked about it in the meeting.
Very strong.
Yes, sir.
Very strong.
Well, that's good.
Glad to hear that.
You gave that humbler speech.
It's been analysis again.
Very strong support from the president, which he had quite frankly not done.
Oh, yeah.
That's a good boy.
We've got to get the right way now.
You know, I used to have somebody all over the seats.
Bill always says he wants you to call.
All right, call this up.
I mean, you got his marker.
Fair enough.
Sure.
He could have asked people to, this is the time to do it.
How is that?
I'm sure he'll be this week.
Yeah, he's...
He didn't do too well here last week.
He's terrible.
No, he was over there and he was yacking around and he's...
I want to reassure her.
Oh, one thing you've got to do.
No, no, hold on, because I bet he was talking about conventional.
Oh, okay.
One thing you've got to do, even though I can't be the crow, you should hand this to him.
Even though I can't be the crow, you should hand this to him.
I don't think that any of her parents, I don't think that any of her parents would give a little bit to McNamara.
They do not allow anything.
I want to be prepared to be sure that they don't get the court right away.
Anything with them, that's very good.
I didn't mind that once we get into the job.
Basically, it's a technician.
Three or four blocks from this side or from where else.
It's a law.
I want to get to the court right away.
Anything with them, I'm not going to have people hurry.
Three or four blocks from this side or from where else.
It was on Colby over at CIA.
It's a true profession.
Today, I'm going to have the operation.
It's not going to happen.
It's going to happen.
It's going to happen.
It's going to happen.
It's going to happen.
Thank you.
I am on this week.
My leg is very good.
I mean, there's other things.
These aren't demonstrations.
You've got to hang in.
So, I'm going to start with this again.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
We've got a title, which would be a new approach to energy.
We've got to go out of order and, you know, deem them as what they're planning to do.
But they still haven't got these amenities we're trying to do.
Good.
What is the, just saying, I'm very located.
This business is not going to be... You're absolutely convinced this isn't going to be it.
I'm sure she probably learned this today or tomorrow.
She's going to demonstrate it.
She's got it.
because there are talks about .
The next couple of weeks.
did all of them and got the material or not.
But he got his man and so forth.
His man and then the recruiter and then Dean.
Dean took their client and son.
He has an attitude which is kind of...
He cares about affiliations.
And so they haven't got a decent amount of work done.
Some people...
Oh, yeah.
I don't know.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Watch your way.
The attitude.
They're looking at it as a way to get the president.
They're looking at it as a way to get the president.
I guess I've got something to do with the fact that Richard's in a given context.
Richard's got to ask about at least what in the world is he doing this for?
That's a broader mandate.
What in the world is that he's doing?
Give me a call.
Oh, did he give that to Tom?
Yes, he gave it to Tom.
Well, we'll work with these guys on the economic thing.
Don't get discouraged.
the attitude with which this kind of news is faced by the people and our responsible people.
They no longer are looking at it as a way to get the president.
They're looking at it as an indirect.
Yes, he gave allegations on that.
I think that's correct.
Unless it's correctly written.
I just don't know what that is.
Why in the hell he did it, I don't know.
But in the world of murder, it's very true.
I, I, I hate, I hate, I hate, I hate, I hate, I hate, I hate, I hate, I hate, I hate,
you know
Right here, John.
That's well known.
What in the name of heaven did he do that for?
I don't know.
Maybe I'm going to go into that darn thing.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I haven't seen any allegations.
I think that's it.
Give me a call and let me know before they stand in front of me.
I just don't know what the location is.
No, I'm a murderer.
What in the world is this about?
I mean, it's a piece on heroin.
Very true.
I raised a bullet there.
Then we got to dig out the whole YTP thing and decide where he's next with the...
Hi everyone.
Why did you do this?
Why did you do this?
Because of the climate issues.
Is that what you learned?
Yes, that's what I learned.
Well, we're... Because we work with these guys in the economic thing, we do our best, okay?
Don't get us seriously violated the general principles that we laid down in our regard.
Don't let me, don't let the guy have my questions.
You know what I mean?
I called him right here, John.
That's well known.
Maybe they're going to go into that darn thing, I suppose.
But Richardson's got to ask us about at least what in the world is he doing this for?
I don't know why you did this.
Yes, sir.
I see you, sir.
Well, we'll work with these guys on the economic thing.
We'll do our best, okay?
Don't get discouraged.
Don't let me, don't let anything