Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 938-012
Date: Tuesday, June 12, 1973 at 5:56 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haig, Alexander M., Jr.; Woods, Rose Mary; [Unknown person(s)]
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/938-012

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[0:04] Yeah.
[0:10] Right there.
[0:31] We got it.
[1:44] um oh yeah he said you know there was a piece in the paper he just repeated something there was a piece in the paper that there was a contemplative change and i wanted to discuss the fact that this man had done so much it was important with the government this way and he said he didn't recall any others that's all that's all i had to discuss
[2:13] I mean, I feel like it's meant by some strange connection.
[2:19] And I didn't know it was meant by a Thursday experience.
[2:38] I wonder if, uh... Lefty.
[2:42] Some time ago, and I think you saw the letter, I just sort of checked it, Frank McGlynn, Frank Vanderland, you know, going to do another book.
[2:52] No, he wanted you to appoint someone that, he said, possibly Sam, I mean, possibly Pat Buchanan, if you and me could work on the book.
[3:02] Maybe you want to just tell him to wait a while, or?
[3:05] I think I'll wait, I don't know, five months.
[3:08] We're all so tired right now.
[3:17] Because the fellows have given way once.
[3:19] It's your quest for peace.
[3:20] Oh, yes, very good.
[3:21] As a matter of fact, the one I would give you, you know, who could be the young general.
[3:32] Andrew.
[3:33] Yes, sir.
[3:33] Andrew, you know, has helped a lot.
[3:35] He's helped me through the Russian speech.
[3:37] And the other fellows would be helpful, too.
[3:39] Yeah, Andrew.
[3:40] Let Andrew be the man.
[3:41] He's a present man.
[3:44] And then you could talk with him, starting now.
[3:46] Yeah, talk with Andrews.
[3:48] He's not tied up in television.
[3:51] Okay.
[3:51] Andrews is going to ask questions at any time.
[3:59] Rob said it, or he answered it very well.
[4:00] He did.
[4:01] I had it all.
[4:01] I didn't get, you know, you don't hear all of it in English because you're talking, but he handled himself very, very well.
[4:08] He looked, you know, he looked so great and so on.
[4:13] I did talk with him.
[4:15] So I stand there and ask him to call my brother.
[4:17] What did he say?
[4:20] He said, I'll be glad to because they're terribly worried about him.
[4:22] So he starts to lie flat on the floor.
[4:25] He has nothing to do.
[4:26] And there's a problem with the little girl too now.
[4:30] There is?
[4:30] I knew there would be one.
[4:31] You see what was inevitable.
[4:33] Well, Luke had told him to.
[4:34] But, um... What is there a problem?
[4:36] A medical problem?
[4:39] Well, how could a child take that mother that long?
[4:43] Yeah, and he doesn't budge in any part.
[4:51] And then, you know, so he starts drinking about five bucks and sits there.
[4:55] And he says they try, they all try, but he reads every word of testimony of everybody.
[5:01] And, of course, everybody's sticking a deep brain to him.
[5:05] And he must be driving him crazy.
[5:07] Yeah, and that darn group of people.
[5:12] Thanks, and thanks was good today.
[5:16] He tried so hard to be what he really is.
[5:24] And I just told John to tell him that please not feel that he's forgotten us.
[5:30] I said, my love, we know he understands why you can't talk with him because he's scared.
[5:37] He knows he does.
[5:37] John himself told me that before.
[5:41] That he would be very bad at it.
[5:47] But Pat was told that Martha called him over in Greece.
[5:51] So he was going to call them back to them.
[5:55] Good for him.
[5:57] Well, they can't.
[5:58] All he did was raise money.
[6:00] They didn't tell him.
[6:01] The clerk was pushing him.
[6:02] I don't want to even mention him yet.
[6:03] Well, the only thing I read in Irish is that Jane mentioned the name to me.
[6:09] Yeah.
[6:09] Yeah.
[6:10] That he was called in, actually, with money for Pounce Lawyers.
[6:14] That's it.
[6:15] That's it.
[6:16] That's Jane's name.
[6:23] She only went before the grand jury, that one didn't answer questions.
[6:26] But they wouldn't give him an interview.
[6:29] They told her.
[6:31] I don't know if he's, I think he's specifically, he says he isn't supposed to know.
[6:36] I don't know if I should, but I guess I'm listening.
[6:40] I don't know if I'm okay if I say something.
[6:44] So... What'd he say?
[6:46] He's gonna lie.
[6:47] Oh, he lied.
[6:48] Do you know what he said?
[6:50] He told us so much that even people who don't know, um...
[6:56] I feel like he's a very weak thinking guy.
[6:59] That's coming through, you see.
[7:01] He's been talking too long now.
[7:04] I see Alan's not there with me.
[7:06] I'd like to leave a message.
[7:09] Okay, go ahead.
[7:10] I was worried about him, you know.
[7:12] I knew it.
[7:13] He was embarrassing.
[7:14] No, no.
[7:14] I didn't want him to get hurt.
[7:17] No.
[7:17] I didn't want him to get hurt.
[7:20] What is your reaction now?
[7:23] That's it.