{"conversationCode":"939-001","tapeNumber":939,"conversationNumber":1,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-939-001","startDateTime":"1973-06-13T13:10:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-13T13:22:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Jun-1973","startTime":"9:10 AM","endDate":"13-Jun-1973","endTime":"9:22 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On June 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:10 am and 9:22 am. 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Ziegler\n           -Diplomatic credentials ceremony\n\nAn unknown man entered at an unknown time after 9:10 am.\n\n     President’s schedule\n           -Ziegler\n\nThe unknown man left at an unknown time before 9:22 am.\n\n     President’s schedule\n           -Forthcoming speech on the economy [?]\n           -Diplomatic credentials ceremony\n                 -Number\n                         -India\n                         -Announcement\n                                -Ziegler\n           -California\n           -Diplomatic credentials ceremony\n           -Trip to Illinois\n           -Diplomatic credentials ceremony\n                 -Time\n                         -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n           -Trip to Illinois\n                 -Air Force One passengers\n                         -Howard H. Baker, Jr.\n                         -Thomas C. Korologos\n\f                                              -2-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                               Conversation No. 939-1 (cont’d)\n\n                       -Melvin R. Laird\n                       -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.\n                       -Laird\n                       -Haig\n                       -Congressmen and guests\n                             -Plane\n                       -Baker\n                       -Key Biscayne\n                       -Timetable\n                       -Pekin, Illinois\n                       -Louella (Carver) Dirksen\n                             -Mother [Lillie Carver]\n           -Florida\n           -Haig, Ziegler\n\nAn unknown man entered at an unknown time after 9:10 am.\n\n     President’s schedule\n           -Haig\n           -Ziegler’s schedule\n                 -Leonard Garment, J. Fred Buzhard, Jr.\n           -Haig\n\nBull and the unknown man left.","filename":["939-001.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"938-014","nextCode":"939-002","transcript":[{"start":0.19,"end":5.75,"text":"Would you please get the, uh, uh, oh, you get a cigarette."},{"start":6.39,"end":10.33,"text":"I really got the word right today."},{"start":29.76,"end":30.26,"text":"What is it?"},{"start":30.32,"end":31.32,"text":"How many have you got?"},{"start":31.34,"end":32.4,"text":"A second, sir."},{"start":32.8,"end":33.34,"text":"What do you need?"},{"start":34.32,"end":37.18,"text":"Well, I don't get it yet, but what is it?"},{"start":37.56,"end":38.8,"text":"We have to be there tomorrow."},{"start":39.8,"end":41.73,"text":"I'll see if you can move it before you go to one of those districts."},{"start":41.75,"end":44.13,"text":"If you already know, I probably told you about it a few months ago."},{"start":44.15,"end":51.01,"text":"I don't think it's anywhere near there, sir."},{"start":51.09,"end":54.1,"text":"I'll see if I can get it to California."},{"start":54.18,"end":54.5,"text":"All right."},{"start":54.74,"end":54.92,"text":"All right."},{"start":55.1,"end":56.38,"text":"I'm doing it."},{"start":56.42,"end":57.24,"text":"It's getting out of the way."},{"start":57.26,"end":58.24,"text":"Let's see what we can do, sir."},{"start":58.77,"end":60.99,"text":"I don't want to get him out of the way."},{"start":61.13,"end":69.51,"text":"I've got to have some time after all this to prepare my things for Chicago City."},{"start":69.59,"end":74.39,"text":"I just want to get him out of the way tomorrow."},{"start":74.43,"end":76.33,"text":"That's all I'm going to do."},{"start":76.37,"end":77.63,"text":"That's all I'm going to do."},{"start":77.71,"end":78.97,"text":"That's all I'm going to do."},{"start":79.31,"end":80.93,"text":"That's all I'm going to do."},{"start":80.97,"end":83.56,"text":"That's all I'm going to do."},{"start":83.59,"end":85.12,"text":"That's all I'm going to do."},{"start":85.16,"end":86.28,"text":"That's all I'm going to do."},{"start":88.44,"end":92.05,"text":"Why do they have black credentials?"},{"start":92.06,"end":96.61,"text":"Because the situation in the house can be done at 1.30, 7 a.m. That's an awkward hour."},{"start":96.65,"end":98.83,"text":"We do it at 1.30, 7 a.m. We'll have to close the house."},{"start":98.89,"end":100.61,"text":"Sure, it's a late night."},{"start":100.67,"end":105.86,"text":"This is 16, 7 a.m. You can hear it many times in the morning."},{"start":106.76,"end":107.04,"text":"All right."},{"start":107.06,"end":109.08,"text":"I'm very good at watching."},{"start":109.16,"end":109.44,"text":"Thanks."},{"start":109.66,"end":114.02,"text":"And then we go to the bill, and I'm going to have to leave."},{"start":114.12,"end":114.32,"text":"It's 8, 9, 15."},{"start":114.44,"end":115.58,"text":"No, excuse me."},{"start":115.61,"end":115.58,"text":"7, 9, 15, 5, 6."},{"start":119.49,"end":122.77,"text":"We've got a lot of Congressmen."},{"start":122.83,"end":128.49,"text":"Yes, Senator, apparently Senator Baker is going to accept the adult invitations, right?"},{"start":128.57,"end":143.38,"text":"Don't put too many of our people, like the, like the Corallo, which isn't that much on the board, and put more of the big shots on the board, like a Laird should be on, if he's willing."},{"start":144.2,"end":146.8,"text":"And Laird is, well, he's going to be back on Thursday."},{"start":148.29,"end":154.51,"text":"Well, I hate it because what I meant is they're big shots, and they say I have to talk to big shots."},{"start":154.53,"end":156.85,"text":"Otherwise, I'll have to talk to them."},{"start":157.01,"end":161.81,"text":"I'm going to have to talk to them too."},{"start":161.83,"end":173.01,"text":"We may end up using two planes to carry some of the aggression tests, because we frequently get a backup plane that follows you when you have a new test, aggression test, on the backup plane."},{"start":173.09,"end":176.85,"text":"Good chance to have a major test."},{"start":178.72,"end":180.99,"text":"excepting the fish."},{"start":186.03,"end":190.27,"text":"You know, the only key is to get in line."},{"start":190.29,"end":194.98,"text":"I don't know what time it's all on, I think."},{"start":195.36,"end":203.1,"text":"You get out there at 11 o'clock, speak for, I mean, I'm going to give 15 minutes."},{"start":203.12,"end":203.91,"text":"15 minutes."},{"start":204.1,"end":204.78,"text":"15 feet."},{"start":205.93,"end":206.25,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":206.29,"end":206.81,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":208.37,"end":225.26,"text":"You and Mrs. Dirksen unveil the cornerstone, you speak, and that was it for it."},{"start":225.32,"end":230.76,"text":"There is an option on the way back."},{"start":230.86,"end":232.26,"text":"Take Mrs. Dirksen."},{"start":233.22,"end":238.51,"text":"Dr. Roberts, a house in Fairfield County where a gay group had a 96-year-old girl next to me sitting on the porch."},{"start":239.67,"end":239.85,"text":"Hi."},{"start":239.89,"end":240.87,"text":"How do you do?"},{"start":241.61,"end":241.73,"text":"Hi."},{"start":241.79,"end":242.13,"text":"Sure."},{"start":242.39,"end":243.77,"text":"Good to meet you, sir."},{"start":244.29,"end":245.23,"text":"Oh, sure, sure, sure."},{"start":245.33,"end":246.85,"text":"Of course you do."},{"start":247.97,"end":248.37,"text":"Good."},{"start":248.55,"end":249.97,"text":"Dr. Warren?"},{"start":250.34,"end":250.51,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":251.18,"end":251.72,"text":"Good."},{"start":252.04,"end":254.64,"text":"Thank you, sir."},{"start":254.72,"end":258.22,"text":"Before I see you on the tape, I have to say we're ready to come in."},{"start":258.34,"end":259.2,"text":"Come in, all six of you."},{"start":260.32,"end":263.58,"text":"Ron asked if he could delay about 10 minutes."},{"start":263.64,"end":264.37,"text":"He's right here."},{"start":264.49,"end":266.49,"text":"I'm meeting 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