On June 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., William E. Timmons, and Nellie L. Yates met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:22 am to 10:10 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 939-002 of the White House Tapes.
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Oh, come here.
We're having a big problem today.
No, no, no, no.
We were just, because we were having a busy day, we just didn't like to get together.
I guess I was told you we have a signing thing in Paris.
Do we have that?
Well, that's better for the day.
That'd be kind.
Two big stories.
Yes, sir.
Now, that's not going to be big for people like you think.
And I was over at Boyd.
Boyd was close.
You want to get across to the president.
The last few days, the president's been on the phone with the Congress, and he grabs the messages, and he compares them to, et cetera, et cetera, right on top of it all.
And they've been working on it a bunch.
And that's been probably one of the biggest leads that we've had since then.
Even though there isn't as much public business, I believe that it is very well.
I believe he enjoys the gratifying of the family, but also we believe that he is not scared of the general eye.
I saw how these things work.
I mean, Henry's very negotiated, but he can only do so far.
I mean, we've got to wait, you guys.
Well, give me a brief run.
So I forgot to take a look at any details.
Then the focus is quite frankly on the economy.
They're focusing on their own land.
It's good, but they don't think it's going to be a breeze.
Some don't.
Some say it's a dry street.
You know, it's distorted.
The Saigon thing, with some controversy from Saigon on the Paris thing, which is good.
The upcoming Soviet summit.
That's beginning to change.
We're going to get that on.
the Cambodian thing a little bit, but not much.
Also has a needling column today.
Let's do this country should not go into apathy on the version of visiting.
Because of the Watergate .
The visit is far more important than the visit.
All of the preparations on board agreements could be a turning point because Soviets are being
choice, and then we're opening up into the Western world, trade, and so forth.
So that type of thing is getting... Did the air story get out?
Yes, it did.
Air story?
Yeah.
It's, I don't know if it's moved in the paper ship.
No, it's moving on the water, yes, sir.
Good.
That is, that's funny, isn't it?
Yeah, they're going to use it for the back stairs.
You know, columns.
That was better than
Okay, very good.
Good.
And the Donahue thing I'm getting into this morning, you mentioned last night.
Oh, boy.
It's just personal.
And I don't care.
I'm not going to lie to you.
I know somebody.
Somebody.
I don't want to have any pressure.
Just so that he knows.
Everybody thought he was
Pretty, pretty, you know, it wasn't a very, very handsome show.
I guess that was absolutely fine.
Also, the first one, not the first.
They did something to a child.
That's just wrong.
That's a wrong account.
Everybody said she did very well.
I maintain she was conscious of me.
Yeah, that's very nice.
Stans is doing a good job.
Yeah, designing everything.
I see cops, uh, on appeal.
No, me.
Well, I don't think he's holding as much back from this morning.
I think he's still not here.
I don't know that he's holding anything back.
I really don't know that he is.
I think what he will tend to do in a hearing is to create the impression of a closet and so forth that existed and then try to weave a story around it.
Because that is a huge...
It probably gets hurt in the heart.
It hurts in the heart.
It hurts in the heart.
He may take that on.
But the, you know, it'll be a tough week, but.
We don't care.
Sorry.
We've got our own perspective on it.
Once he gets by.
I must be.
Gosh, there must be some discrediting.
Well, we were talking about that this morning, and I don't know who's going to do it.
We can't do it.
Well, we're thinking about a couple.
That's exactly right.
A couple options we have to go with.
What we have to be cautious on, and this is what we're kicking around here a little bit this morning, is if we move too quickly to discover that it may play to his advantage.
Right.
But there's a fine line.
We've got to be prepared to move in a couple different options depending on how this goes.
You see, he's going to be in private session for the week.
That'll be the weekend stories when we testify if we want our own.
a sharp, sharp denial of what total originals are must be prepared to become the work of, uh, of any sufficient line of denial.
Uh, hitting back, I mean, sending the line back to the president's, uh, president's statement, which, uh, which he had, and so forth.
They're trying to get you into the various things that he charged with, you know, which, which are, uh, which are, uh,
He may well say that.
Not true, but he will say it.
He may, he may, if he does.
And we'll have to deal with it and handle it.
I think he has been in the mind of some of us.
I think that the country would believe the president.
think that there was a movement toward the discrediting of Dean.
I think he's recovered a little bit over the last two days, but not quite.
I don't know.
There's just a sense of play.
He appears to have recovered a little bit, but not to substantial.
Why is that?
Is it because the motion of time is building up?
No, I don't think the motion of time is building up.
I think it's just the break of events, the anticipation of the
of the and the public impression of the community and so forth.
May have recovered them a little bit, but I'm not saying that's going to be entirely hard.
This is not one of the other witnesses that's asking for .
We have the White House.
Everybody should be free.
Now, I've asked several matters on it.
We can look it up.
Well, Mr. President, yes, and it is.
We do have to finalize it.
We can at that point have any time.
But we don't want to, quite frankly, we don't want to give him an anchor to hold on to.
Well, he must be getting very hard after.
Yes, sir.
Then he must be getting, don't worry about anything, everything.
That's exactly right.
some material we're putting together.
It's hard to believe.
Bizarre.
Right.
John Hurley thinks that Garmin is leaking very heavily to the press.
No, I don't.
There's no evidence of that.
I don't see any story that he is.
Bizarre is only...
Speaks of all your interests, Attorney General, independent of, apparently even adverse to the President, I do not understand.
The Vice, in front of the garment, refuses to defend you, and apologizes for you to every quarter he has touched you.
These fellows apparently don't care that you are fighting them, fighting your life personally.
I gather their loyalty is only to the institution of presidency.
That's Garmin's answer, and I'll fire him today.
It is not his answer.
The President, Mr. President, Mr. President, every discussion you have with him, and I've had many, and I think Al has too, his loyalty very definitely goes to you.
And I think what this is, he defends the President.
There are ways, there are ways to draw press out there.
There are ways to, to battle with the press that John Memphis interpreted as his loyalty.
I don't know if Lynn's going to have a rampant way, but he certainly did as the president.
And his, all of his instincts in terms of his suggestions for, for responses, Lynn has been the toughest guy.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
You're right, he's betrayed him.
The reason is that he's seen him, so he knows what the passage are up to.
Yeah, but I don't think he's seen Woodward under persecution.
That's a doubt.
To be honest, this is good.
Let me add to this.
Maybe you can discuss it with the staff.
They have him and his boys make calls on the Hill with regard to this communication as well.
Yes, there's a full-blown thing.
I was up at the channel of the Marching Society of the S.O.S.
They called me while I was there, so I hit that third car.
I said, well, that other group, you know, God damn, who's asking for that?
I think we've been talking about this Cambodian thing now.
It was a rob.
It was a good thing.
It was a good thing.
It was a plan.
Uh, I think we ought to have Henry, you know, go up to the office, and he should talk to, he should talk to, uh, he should talk to the head of the men's field, and stop and say, I'd be glad to come up, and Henry will meet with the bipartisan group up there.
And he could talk to, uh, Ford and, uh, Stevens, and I'll meet with the bipartisan group on their side, and get the briefing on this.
because it came so late that he could not be there.
Yes, sir, this is Robert Sonnen.
He's got the guest list for you to discuss.
He would even recommend that we include... Well, we've got too many Vietnamese.
It's not very important, but...
Yes, sir.
I think it's very important.
I really do.
I think it's very important.
And I say not important, not important, because I don't care about it.
Of course it's important at this time to prove that we can do something.
Wait a minute.
These guys were really there.
They just...
Were they?
And they were just...
I'll tell you, sir... How did they feel about it?
There wasn't one question or word about her.
You know when only 35 people came on the floor yesterday?
That joke was floating around.
Oh, she doesn't put that in people.
No, no, no.
She was just different.
Look at these guys.
Four weeks ago, that's all they could think about.
There was no other...
They were all very enthusiastic about the new relationship.
They were very enthused about the ocean, things that are going on.
And I didn't tell them anything about becoming the other than the chief.
I know that I had never in four years seen the president's platter so full, or more decisions coming out more quickly and more productive.
Hold this chair.
What have you done so far with regard to the wires, or with regard to informing Mansfield, Scott, etc., etc.?
This thing is through, and it's very, very positive.
The principal called at 9 o'clock this morning.
Is that calling the others for relations?
I'm not going to breathe tomorrow, you know, because I just can't hold them down two days in a row.
Now, the point is that we'd like to send Kissinger out.
for a meeting with, uh, a joint meeting with the Senate, a joint meeting with the House, and it can be very broad.
And, uh, we would like to quickly get back to you.
All right.
Uh, what have you done about that?
You have a, you've got that working.
It's not against what's not here.
Yeah, I'm saying, I've talked to Scott and Ford, and to ask them their view of the... What do you think we should have done here?
I don't know.
I just don't, you know, you double it up.
You know, Henry was very successful when he went up to all the Senate in a room up there, and then went over across and did the whole House.
I really think that's a too broad a group for this time.
That's right.
No, that's too broad.
But we could get the leadership and some of the running members in a room.
Well, basically the same kind of people we would like down here to be in a room and invite up our scum in Glensville in the same kind of a group.
I've asked them for their thoughts, and I think they're talking to Mike and Albert to see what sort of thing they can put together.
We don't have the time yet.
Chief, if you wanted to brief the press here, why don't you do that?
Yeah, let me do this backwards.
Backwards.
He doesn't have to do, you know what I mean, brief the press here.
It's not, I mean, it'll be a story.
Or even before, I don't want to work him to death.
I want him to be able to do the best he can work the press.
Up there, he can do that in the back of his hand.
It's hard to help students to do it up there, though.
It's a dry run for them.
Before the press.
All right, fine.
If he's back, good timing.
Fine.
Ten o'clock.
Ten, one side, one in the other hand.
If it doesn't impress you, it won't impress you.
We make the best out of it, if you will.
You see, in each of these instances, you call, say, the president wanted to do this briefing personally, but he doesn't agree.
He's going to give you the night.
He doesn't want to hold you down here twice.
So he sends Dr. Kissinger out then under our new relationship, and he's going to agree.
All right.
How does that sound to you?
Good, good.
I'll see you probably in a minute.
Tonight you might mention to Mike and Scott.
Yeah, I'll mention to the whole group tonight that I'd like to greet them on this, but I can't.
And I'll greet them on the summit.
I'll tell Henry to cover the summit, too.
And I'll say he'll give you a quick rundown of the summit.
The brief summit on the other end.
These fellows tonight are the economic sort of people as opposed to the foreign relations
Yeah.
So, we have that.
Well, we're having to, we're going to have to, we're going to have to, we're going to have to, we're going to have to, we're going to have to,
Yes, I've talked to Screamer.
What'd he do?
He called me back 30 minutes on, complimenting me.
He said he called me on a very bad, personal thought about that.
This was such a great channel I was in.
He told me he wanted to announce it tomorrow and all that, so I told him, Screamer, there's a panel.
He'll wait three or four weeks, and that'd be...
I know, but that's how I go to him.
I said, it's urgent, and he said he'd get all the money and come down here to vet him.
I talked to him some more.
He got ready to call me back.
He's going to put him right in the neck drop center.
If he could get strength, that would be one.
He said he's in the chipper, but he's mortgaged there.
He's inclined to go there, but he just needs about 30 minutes to gather his thoughts.
It's a little delayed.
Do you, uh... Go ahead.
Do you feel we should do it the other day before we go?
Sure.
Yes, I think so, sir.
We never want to blow that into the bridge next time.
We're hungry.
Oh, sir.
I mean, I'll do it Saturday.
You know, if we're speaking words.
We could do it Saturday.
Sure.
Saturday, Carl.
Saturday, Carl.
So that's not a... Actually...
This story is so big that running another story Thursday is not pretty.
To our advantage.
Not really to our advantage.
You might as well let this run a couple days.
I personally think that we can get the energy together and do it Saturday.
Could you have any other Sunday papers?
Does that make sense?
And the Harlow story, basically, let's face it.
Well, will Harlow let us go with it Thursday?
I mean, we could do Harlow tomorrow.
Yeah.
Harlow would be a nice little story mark and put Bill Scranton on center.
I don't know why Harlow didn't know what he was doing.
He's got it all over.
I have a speaker set.
You want to do it with the floor?
Huh?
Do it with the floor?
Bring Bill Scranton down there.
You could do it on the other side of the floor.
Oh, I don't mind.
It could be longer.
I'll be leading the pressure.
Bill can come down and
Then he goes out and reads the press for a Sunday story.
But you won't be meeting with the press?
We're working on it.
We're working on it.
That'll happen.
We're going to have to read the paper, sir.
That'd be very good.
And the heritage exchange is great, too.
That's a good example.
I told you I'd talk to this.
It'd be great if you could just look on there.
Is the President's thing on?
We're riding down the same plane.
I'm going to have him stay at the compound with us.
I told, I invited the brain and I said we could even take him.
I'm able to.
We've got three veterans on the side.
One security man.
They might be federal.
They can stay up behind those Russians up here in the security.
Yes, they have.
But Brezhnev and I walking around in Santa Monica will be an enormous picture.
An enormous idea.
You know, the House of Peace, that's an Indian organization.
The spirit is the spirit of the house of the secret member.
Yes, sir.
Rather than the spirit of the anteater.
What do you have at home?
So, here in Idaho, everything gets down.
They had the spirit of Glassboro.
It's the spirit of San Clemente that got me here.
The spirit of the cost of a seat in the car should be really one of those.
I'm talking to Ron about the business.
Getting into the game tonight, right?
He's regarding the dean's term.
Some may blow on Friday.
He says he thinks Dean has recovered a little over the last couple of days from the public esteem.
It's not esteem.
A little bit, but nonetheless, they had their own witness, which does indicate to me that our curse must be terribly fatal.
I'll never forget when they did it with the Chambers.
A confessor.
God, it's just fine.
They killed him.
How we were able to ever convict him of a Chambers testimony is beyond belief.
here with Dean.
They make him out as a nice, pretty boy who's telling the truth about being a president.
And our guys aren't doing one good goddamn thing to knock it down.
I don't mean to be false.
I don't know.
I'm impressed.
So also, I'm a woman of peace.
I'm not very good around this sort of business.
I agree.
And you say it's a question of timing.
I agree.
But the times have stuck by me.
If it happens, I don't know if they're making charges and all of a sudden... What do you think, Eleanor?
I don't like the strategy.
They sure are.
The other guy.
He's still thinking.
No, I mean, he's fine with this.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
We're good.
The Vice President's speech, the general attitude of this charge is...
You mean Collins?
Collins, yeah.
You don't mean that?
Collins, right.
Other than the news stories, right?
Other than the news stories.
Even if a government or, I mean, instead of, you know, prattling around with his Jewish friends, the Times, the Post, or whoever he does prattle around with, I don't charge him, but I'm just saying that it's worse if he can sort of, you know, with his very good way, I mean, be motivated about what it really means.
Nobody else, nobody else has that.
They're all telling the truth.
It's an insanity of a lie.
This man has told several different stories.
Never told the rest of his own and all that.
God, I really have to bring him down.
I mean, it's a murder story.
I mean, not to be put on public.
Rob, I'm not suggesting big public blasphemy.
That's the kind of thing all citizens, even the little ones, need to restore right now.
Things like that.
Can't be done.
I know this, the discrediting of a witness before he goes on.
He goes on.
They think we fought it all off.
You see, some of this cracking must go on before this light, before he starts cracking on us.
No, I think we're good.
I think we're good.
I just ask him to do it.
If we moved too early, we would have made it.
It would have been harder.
Well, of course, now you have to keep in mind, I don't disagree with you, but if we move, I might be wrong, but we've got to wait.
This is what's...
This is Wednesday.
If we move to Berkeley in an effort to discredit Dean.
Oh, Berkeley.
You know, it works to his advantage.
He'll go up there and portray himself as .
I was just thinking that maybe we were sophisticated enough to be able to do it without moving to Berkeley.
That's what I was thinking.
Well, unfortunately, Mr. President, I think there are sophisticated techniques to use.
Unfortunately, I think we're, and I'll say it quite directly, I think we're in an environment where it's difficult to move.
I don't mean to sound too negative.
I agree with what Al said.
There is a positive sense moving in the commons, in the attitudes, I think, about hearing it.
And Dean is not...
I think right is the pretty boy who everyone believes in.
The pretty boy who everyone believes, that's it.
If you should consider the Jews.
The Jews, that's what he is.
That's the other thing that's got to come up.
I deal with everything that really moves at that point.
But, you've got to be confused as you look at the environment.
Good.
That was a great job.
I don't want to sound pessimistic, and I know our business is, and I'm not pessimistic.
I just, I'm not pessimistic.
I've gone pragmatic about this kind of case as I get through.
And, uh, what I mean, well...
He's not up there.
My God, he's got to watch himself for perjury.
He's got to watch himself for good crimes.
I mean, I mean.
According to the czar, the prosecutors were working like crazy.
They were working together 40 times.
They didn't say they had this so much before he went out.
So we've talked enough about being out with that girlfriend.
I think so.
Party introduction.
Dean.
Didn't hear you.
Well, under oath of the year, I think it'll be more climate, this, anything, and not much of a melody to lay out specific facts.
So he's the only one who's going to talk to the president?
In an attempt to suggest the easement of funding that tied up in the climate activity that we're doing.
And the president, by vocation, approved that.
Of course, that can be cut down by effective cross-examination.
We won't have it.
He's talking to Thompson tonight.
I'm talking to Sarge.
He's preparing questions and so forth.
He agrees.
He's trying, but... That little boy Thompson out there, not much.
A lot of blood.
Gurney's doing some good things out around the country in his speeches.
He's talking about the fact that he's standing up for you.
Yes he is, very definitely.
Out on this speaking engagement in Florida, there's a lot of news stories in front.
This is the thing we tend to overlook.
that the Washington Post and the New York Times is the only thing playing in the country.
You heard the story that a wife played on TV where he stood up in a dinner thing down there in Florida and strongly supported the president.
Said that the president was on the ball, the president was doing great things, moving ahead on the president.
That's what we need now.
With all due respect to all the others in God, I hope not.
May I have this trumpet?
You know, he was just led by his counsel, John B., not my father, for 10 months.
I mean, you know.
We finally got to know the Vice President.
He's done it.
He's finally done it.
He ain't done it up until last weekend.
He finally came out solid strong.
We've got some congressional people who have, but they're no longer whining around the place.
And they already did.
I think we can get some talk.
They all sense now that the country has turned a corner and are very important to business.
They think so.
Even Eugene McCarthy, who is, of course, one of these
made it very clear that the president was going to continue in office until 1976.
And then he kind of flung it around and recited poetry.
Was that the radio correspondent?
No, no, no, no.
It was just in a column I did.
Well, if you're best, this is a good story.
Yes, sir.
But we're going to work on it from now.
But we're going to get Harlow's off tomorrow.
That's the best thing, energy on Saturday.
And if it gives us more time and energy on Saturday, we don't get stranded.
We've got to try to get somebody else to maybe get him.
But then if we don't get him, then we don't go anywhere.
But I think, yeah, just stranded.
Yes.
And he comes to see me.
When should we announce the TV thing?
Now, could I raise one point?
Sure.
We have had in all of our planning that we go at 9 o'clock.
I favor 9 o'clock, too, but let me just raise one point.
At 9 o'clock, you will interrupt two movies.
At 8.30...
We'll get in at the outset.
I'll do it at 8.30.
The times are off.
You can argue, if you go at 8.30, it's 5.30 on the West Coast, then you play into all of the news show.
No, no, no, no.
See, they don't think.
No, no, no.
Don't worry.
8.30 is fine.
I prefer to get this out of an hour away.
8.30.
And it's that kind of talk.
It's for the nation.
It's for the nation.
It has to hear it.
It's made it right.
8.30 is great.
I prefer it.
Okay.
Good.
Good.
To be sure that that word that you mentioned gets down to the hills and they don't have something to say.
That's true.
That's all I'm going to say.
I don't think he's going to change his mind.
I don't think he's going to move everything up ahead of him.
So, what I'm going to say is we're out in the lake.
We're not going to go long.
We're not going to stay.
We're not going to fight.
That's right.
We're going to move everything up ahead of him.
We can't just...
I don't want to spend an hour on the cabinet.
No, absolutely not.
This could be very short.
I'd like George to do the details and I might just get out and walk out and say you have to work on this.
I haven't spent much time on this speech.
I've been spending the time with the subjects, trying to be self-reliant.
But I've got to be up for it, so I've got to look like a man.
Well, I was hoping you could get a rest today.
I'm going to need you to go to bed right now.
I'll get a rest.
Don't worry.
I'll look like a nice man.
You always get out of these things pretty happy.
If you don't, you don't come across.
Well, what else have we done since we last talked a few hours ago?
Well, I...
I just...
I felt the shutter marching was good.
Of course, they're our old friends.
I mean, if they aren't good, the whole thing goes down the tube.
But they whine a lot, too.
How many were there?
They had a full house.
They had the S.O.X.
in it.
Oh, S.O.X.
was great.
And everybody was there.
It's a big scrum.
Yeah.
Great.
And all of the, every gun was in one of them.
What kind of stuff did you cover quickly?
Well, they talked to me about your concept for a new approach.
Greater cooperation with them.
Greater decentralization.
Bigger roles they can have.
greater openness.
And then I talked about the fallacy of the rumor of stagnation here in the White House.
I went through the big things that you had been working on intensively.
The economy, energy.
The economy, energy, and the station, the station.
I got a call just before, so I said, man, today they're announcing 11 o'clock and we have quite a talk about it.
getting and keeping Cambodia together.
This was the one remaining fuzzy partner which was manageable over time, if we stayed strong.
Then I went into the pressure zone.
Describing it as probably the most important singularity in the history of the EY.
It is.
And I think any one of the effects of this president is localized, just doesn't.
Senator Meyer, congratulations for another great job for your country.
For your country and the cause of peace.
Okay, you can give it a slow run, of course.
So the bed was just solid.
Questions were, and I've been up there before, there was always that sound of a bitch in the corner.
pitch because he couldn't see you or couldn't get to the White House staff or we didn't know what we were doing in Southeast Asia.
It was a uniform and constructive attitude.
Uniform desires of helping him get the job done.
They're going back and reset the whole strategy on the Cambodian boat.
There's only one sour guy in that whole carload of women who's been sour for about six or eight months, and the poor valiance around town, and that's Peter Dominick.
And that son of a bitch, he's got to get back on the reservation.
But he's a sour man.
He is a sour man.
However, he's an articulate guy.
Well, I'm going to show you.
We'll get him back.
That's all we'll do about it.
No, I don't mind, but I just know that I...
So he needs to know that he got screwed, quite frankly, during the election with the committee that were elected.
They just treated him very badly.
He felt that.
They had reasons for it.
Yeah.
And he's running scared this next time, coming up.
Is he running?
Yes.
Well, the way that would make him very happy is to say, I'd like for somebody to go down, maybe you.
Have a talk with him and say, look, the president is sure one of the really outstanding men.
He said you had a real tough road to go last night.
I said, uh, you mean I wanted to?
He put, he said, give, put your name on top of the list.
The priority is Colorado.
But it has to be done just between you and him.
Or you can wait in the car with him.
See, he's a guy, sir, that is all around the Georgetown Center.
Oh, I know.
He's a swish for spoiled.
And that's not good to have him in the carpet.
But the rest of them... Why don't you send Harlow up and just lay it straight on St. Peter?
He just can't have this all for you.
He wants to help.
He wants to help.
He said, you know, come in and out and say anything you want.
He let us know that there needs to be a new relationship.
He feels it.
He's very disturbed that there's been this thing.
Let's lay it right on the line a little bit.
But that was encouraging, meeting him.
Bill said, just great.
He said he didn't see it that way.
George Bush was there, very enthusiastic.
And he said, it's all business.
Don't worry, it's all in business.
Well, one day he pops off a boat and murders Stuntman.
That'll bring it back.
But, I mean, believe it or not, we've been able to do what we've been hoping to do.
And that is to be built with a platform of confidence before that son of a bitch had to have to say, we've gotten into the best single pond that you can have in it.
You've got the energy, you've got the economy going, you've got the reorganization, personnel refuging.
You've got Southeast Asia in the right on top of that.
Right.
And the anticipation for Russia, we keep going, descending to a hell of a dim of positive economic chances.
And that is what we've been fighting for.
Yeah.
And I tell you, we couldn't be better conscious of it.
Yeah.
were fumed on all through that period.
That's the whole thing that we wandered along with.
That's right.
That's exactly right.
And I'm quite enthusiastic about it.
And we just sort of went into this period, and we had this son of a bitch come in and put the coup de grace on him, and we'd been in bad shape.
But Henry, now, whatever he does, I don't think he can say or do anything.
at this juncture.
It's too late.
Well, he's making recordings.
Too late.
What have you got?
Our time has been better than theirs.
Yes, sir.
If they had a very good, smart data phone, all of them would have been there the first week of the year.
Then they were cursed.
But they've lost the enthusiasm of the people for a show.
Doubt's being raised.
The conservative has about the justice system.
That's what we're seeing.
Vice President's speech was a very well-done one.
I'm asking you to follow up on it and say it again.
It's very important.
Keep getting it.
Keep having it.
I want to speak for all of you.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Yeah, I thought about it.
God damn it.
Oh, money is here.
During the visit of President, it just began, you know.
Anybody have a raise?
I'm not talking about the editor.
We are good, haven't had this trouble with it.
But I think we can get that conversation to be said publicly.
We can get that.
He wouldn't mind just passing that to Ron.
Ron didn't want to get his stories on like that.
That's what he said.
That's got to come naturally well.
And so, the better one's some story than none.
Now, I don't, I don't believe they have to come.
Actually, I believe they have to know.
Yeah.
If you're gonna, if you're gonna ride when you use them.
And I think these will ride now.
I think, for example, the idea of trying to screw up the rest of it.
Irresponsibility from what I mean.
Putting Watergate ahead of peace.
Putting politics, partisanship ahead of peace.
Putting politicians ahead of peace.
That's what I mean.
They should, there should be a speech manual up there.
Time to put pizza ahead of politics, pizza ahead of partisanship, pizza ahead of Watergate.
You know?
I'll listen to you, sir.
I'll listen to you, sir.
I'll listen to you, sir.
I've got a group out there waiting for you, sir.
Good.
Let me know.
I'll listen to you, sir.
Mr.
Governor.