Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 940 › Conversation 940-008

Nixon, Putnam & Ziegler on Watergate and Economic Policy

Thursday, June 14, 1973 · 11:25 AM–11:29 AM ET · Oval Office · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Putnam, George; Ziegler, Ronald L.; Simmonds, Gerald A.; Simmonds, CraigConversation940-008 on Tape 940StartThursday, June 14, 1973 at 11:25 AMEndThursday, June 14, 1973 at 11:29 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 940-008 ↗

President Nixon met with broadcaster George Putnam, Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler, and the Simmonds family to discuss the administration's ongoing challenges. The conversation focused on the President's workload, the impact of the Watergate scandal, and the recent economic address regarding price controls and gasoline supply. The participants also touched upon public relations, the upcoming visit of Leonid Brezhnev, and various social greetings.

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Hello?
He's got lots of help.
He's turning around, Mr. President.
I can get it in the mail.
I can get it in the phone.
I can get it in the mail.
I can get it in the phone.
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When you tell everyone that his wages are going to be coming in, when you then point the finger at those who have breath and goutiness and say, I'm going to the doctor's office, I'm going to look it back to Andrew, and I'm going to look it back to the first, then take it to the doctor, and also to our doctor, I'm going to look it back to him.
At the beginning of the year, I wrote this after the last.
I said, let's talk to some folks right about our economy.
Yes.
And we'll help people smooth it out.
Yes.
Okay.
Do you want to live in our house?
I said, yes, I do.
I do want to live in our house.
Incidentally, Mark Evans said to help what I love to the normal people.
I know.
Who's not going to be patient?
I don't know.
My wife will be there.
She'll cheer you on.
I've got a lesson to put in.
I wish you could see that.
Thank you, Mr. President.
Give the bank.
Yes, sir.
All right, give my back to Jane.
Yes, sir.
Looking all over the bank for Reynolds.
Yes, sir.

On June 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, George Putnam, Ronald L. Ziegler, Gerald A. Simmonds, and Craig Simmonds met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:25 am to 11:29 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 940-008 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 940-8
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                               Conversation No. 940-8 (cont’d)

Date: June 14, 1973
Time: 11:25 am - 11:29 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with George Putnam, Ronald L. Ziegler, Gerald A. Simmonds, and Craig
Simmonds.

       President’s health

       President’s schedule
              -Workload
              -Watergate

       Putnam’s mail and telephone calls

       Forthcoming Leonid I. Brezhnev visit

       National economy
              -President’s address to nation addressing price control measures, June 13, 1973
                     -Gasoline supplies
                     -Wages
                     -Possible audits
                     -Beginning and end
                             -Economic strengths
                                     -Chad

       Mark Evans

       Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
             -Washington Lions club

       Press relations
               -Ziegler

       President’s greetings
              -Gene Autry
              -Robert Reynolds

Putnam et al. left at 11:29 am
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                                Conversation No. 940-8 (cont’d)
  • 940-003 10:52 AM · 45 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and David C. Hoopes met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:52 am and 10:56 am.
  • 940-004 10:56 AM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:56 am to 11:10 am.
  • 940-005 11:10 AM · 45 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and David C. Hoopes met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:10 am and 11:15 am.
  • 940-006 11:15 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:15 am to 11:18 am.
  • 940-007 11:18 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, George Putnam, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:18 am to 11:20 am.
  • 940-016 11:20 AM · 26 sec — United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:20 am and 11:25 am.
  • 940-009 11:29 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:29 am and 11:31 am.
  • 940-010 11:29 AM · 1 hr 16 min — William W. Scranton, unknown person(s), President Richard M. Nixon, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:29 am and 12:11 pm.

Conversation 940-008, June 14, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/940-008 (accessed October 9, 2026).