{"conversationCode":"940-008","tapeNumber":940,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-940-008","startDateTime":"1973-06-14T15:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-14T15:29:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Jun-1973","startTime":"11:25 AM","endDate":"14-Jun-1973","endTime":"11:29 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Putnam, George; Ziegler, Ronald L.; Simmonds, Gerald A.; Simmonds, Craig;","description":"On June 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, George Putnam, Ronald L. Ziegler, Gerald A. Simmonds, and Craig Simmonds met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:25 am to 11:29 am. 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Simmonds, and Craig\nSimmonds.\n\n       President’s health\n\n       President’s schedule\n              -Workload\n              -Watergate\n\n       Putnam’s mail and telephone calls\n\n       Forthcoming Leonid I. Brezhnev visit\n\n       National economy\n              -President’s address to nation addressing price control measures, June 13, 1973\n                     -Gasoline supplies\n                     -Wages\n                     -Possible audits\n                     -Beginning and end\n                             -Economic strengths\n                                     -Chad\n\n       Mark Evans\n\n       Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n             -Washington Lions club\n\n       Press relations\n               -Ziegler\n\n       President’s greetings\n              -Gene Autry\n              -Robert Reynolds\n\nPutnam et al. left at 11:29 am\n\f                                               -27-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                                Conversation No. 940-8 (cont’d)","filename":["940-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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The conversation focused on the President's workload, the impact of the Watergate scandal, and the recent economic address regarding price controls and gasoline supply. 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