Conversation 940-015

On June 14, 1973, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., President Richard M. Nixon, Anne L. Armstrong, unknown person(s), Bryce N. Harlow, Ronald L. Ziegler, and members of the press met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:18 pm to 1:35 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 940-015 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 940-15

Date: June 14, 1973
Time: 12:18 - 1:35 pm
Location: Oval Office

Alexander M. Haig, Jr. talked with the President.

[Conversation No. 940-15A]

[Begin telephone conversation]

[See Conversation No. 40-106]

[End telephone conversation]

The President met with Anne L. Armstrong at 12:18 pm.

       Bryce N. Harlow

       President’s address to nation addressing price control measures, June 13, 1973
              -Reaction
              -Public relations
                      -Economics
                      -Beginning and end of speech
                      -Gasoline and food prices
                      -Optimism

       President’s Orlando speech [remarks at Florida Technological University, June 8, 1973]

       White House staff
             -Armstrong’s role
                    -Haig’s role
             -Melvin R. Laird’s role
                    -Politics
                            -Laird
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                            -Harlow
                            -Staff
                                   -Haig
                            -Harlow
                            -Laird
                            -Harlow
                                   -Politics
                                   -George H. W. Bush
                                   -Laird’s role
                                           -Congressional relations
                                           -Bush
                                   -Bush
                                   -Harlow
                            -John B. Connally
             -Connally’s role
                   -Advisor
                   -Economic, energy, Cabinet meetins
                   -Relationship with President

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      Connally
            -Response of Republicans
            -Change to Republican Party
                   -Lack of invitations
            -Public relations
            -“Sales” ability
                   -Economic program
            -Response of Republicans
                   -John G. Tower, Texas, Spiro T. Agnew, Laird, Nelson A. Rockefeller
            -Strength, Vigor
            -Armstrong’s forthcoming conversation with Harlow and Bush
            -Possible activities with Republicans
                   -Invitations
                   -John C. McDonald
                            -Iowa state Republican chairman
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              -Dinners
                      -New York
              -Chicago
              -Cleveland
              -Cincinnati
              -Columbus
              -Los Angeles
              -San Francisco
              -Iowa
              -Power centers
              -Miami
              -Atlanta
              -Charlotte
              -Nashville
              -Alabama
              -Fundraisers
       -Presidential ambitions
              -Shooting [in 1963]
              -Lifestyle
                             -Compared to Rockefeller, Laird, Charles H. Percy,
               Agnew, William E. Brock, III
       -Watergate
       -Accomplishments in administration

1976 election
       -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
              -Lifestyle
              -[Chappaquiddick]
                      -[Mary Jo Kopechne]
              -Character
                      -Laird
       -Connally
              -Public relations

Connally
      -“Mystic of leadership”
      -Economic program
              -President compared to George P. Shultz
      -Invitations
      -Views of Kennedys
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            -Role with Administration
            -Relationship with President
                    -Compared to Harlow, Laird
                            -Age differences
            -Invitations
                    -Bush’s possible actions
                    -Editors
            -Possible activities
                    -Power groups
                    -North, West
                    -South
                            -Atlanta
                            -Nashville
                            -Louisville
                            -Florida
                            -Arkansas
                            -Compared to Agnew
                    -South
            -Armstrong’s view
            -Lack of power base
                    -Image
                    -Law firm
                    -Travel
                    -Gasoline deal
                    -Possible attack by opponents
                            -Compared to Agnew
                                    -Investigations in Maryland
                                            -President’s recent conversation with Agnew
                            -President’s experience
                    -Law firm
                    -Foreign travel
                    -Wealth
                            -Farms, cattle
                            -Friends
                    -Lifestyle
                            -Palm Springs
                            -Jamaica
                                    -Real estate

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Blacks
         -Governing ability
               -Jamaica
                       -Real estate
               -Future
               -Miscegenation
               -[Liberia]
                       -William R. Tolbert, Jr.
                               -English speaking ability
                                      -Compared to population
                       -Poverty
               -Ivory Coast
               -Africa
                       -Lack of freedom
               -Education
                       -Philosophy
                               -Lawyers, doctors
                       -Effect
                               -Bombs

Appointments
      -Armstrong’s role
             -Mexicans
             -Jews
             -Mexicans
             -Italians
             -East Europeans

Cabinet
       -Snobbishness
             -Excellence
             -Elliot L. Richardson
                     -Harvard University Law School
             -Henry A. Kissinger
                     -Conversation with President
                            -University of Iowa
                            -Ohio State University
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Bicentennial Commission
       -Claudia A. (Taylor) (“Lady Bird”) Johnson’s possible role
              -Haig
       -Leadership
              -J. Willard (“Bill”) Marriott, Jr.
              -Male
              -Donald McI. Kendall
              -Possible value for President
              -Delay
              -List
                      -Number, age
                      -University presidents
                      -Frederic V. Malek
                      -Armstrong’s conversation with Roman Hruska, June 13, 1973
              -Kendall
                      -Ideas
                      -Financial situation
                      -PepsiCo
              -Retirement
              -Prisoners of war [POWs]
                      -Board, advisory, committee
              -Frank Borman
                      -Eastern Airlines
                      -Loyalty
                      -Financial situation
                      -Part-time status
                      -List
                              -Armstrong’s role
                                      -Peter M. Flanigan
                                      -Jerry H. Jones
                                      -Roy L. Ash
                                      -Otto Eckstein
                                      -Haig

Anecdote
      -Las Vegas
             -Comedian
                   -Man with dead spouses

White House staff
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               -Armstrong’s role
               -Cost of Living Council [COLC], Domestic Council
               -Letter for President

      National economy
             -Public relations
             -President’s plan
                    -Price controls
                             -Duration
                    -Possible wage controls
                             -Inflation
                    -Raw agricultural products
                             -Views of Tricia Nixon Cox and Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                             -Wheat, corn
                             -Consumers
                             -Price volatility
                                     -Weather
                                     -Shortages
                             -Rental prices

An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 12:18 pm.

      Harlow

The unknown man left at an unknown time before 12:47 pm.

      White House staff
            -Armstrong’s role
                   -Armstrong’s schedule
                          -Albert H. Quie [?]
                   -Poverty programs
                   -Cabinet meetings
                   -Speeches

      Watergate
            -White House response
                   -Maurice H. Stans
            -President’s accomplishments
                   -Vietnam, Soviet Union, People’s Republic of China [PRC]
            -Popular opinion
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                     -Armstrong’s conversation with Robert J. Dole

       White House staff
             -Armstrong’s role
                    -Television [TV]
                           -Speeches
                           -Armstrong’s physical appearance, voice

Harlow and Haig entered at 12:47 pm.

       Armstrong and Harlow
             -Texas and Oklahoma
             -Armstrong’s schedule

Armstrong left at 12:48 pm.

       White House staff
             -Harlow’s role
             -Laird
             -Armstrong
                    -Politics
             -William E. Timmons

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 12:49 pm.

       Arrangements for photograph session
             -Standing, sitting, walking

       President’s schedule
              -Diplomatic credentials presentation
                      -Nepal, Yemen, Malawi, Oman, Khmer Republic, Jordan
                      -Length

       White House staff
             -Armstrong’s role
                    -President’s conversation with Armstrong
                    -Bush
                           -Harlow and Armstrong’s work
                    -Connally
                           -Possible activities with Republicans
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                                      -Jealousy
                                      -Iowa
                                      -Chicago
                                      -New York
                                      -Philadelphia
                                      -Atlanta

Members of the press entered at an unknown time after 12:49 pm.

       Connally
             -Bush
             -Republican’s view

       [Photograph session]

Ziegler and the press left at 12:53 pm.

       Bush
               -Republican National Chairman
               -Schedule
               -Harlow’s role
                      -Armstrong [?]
                      -Agnew [?]

       White House staff
             -Haig, Harlow, Laird
             -Kissinger
                     -Irrelevance of some comments
                     -Social events
             -Armstrong
             -Size of meetings
             -Kissinger
                     -[President’s address to nation addressing price control measures]
             -Leonard Garment, Ash, Shultz
                     -Expert status
                     -Politics
             -Flanigan
                     -Flexibility
             -Laird
                     -Possible leaks
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               -Defense Department
-Harlow’s role
       -Portfolio
       -Agnew
       -Republican Party
       -Congressional relations
               -Timmons
                      -Farm bill
                              -Possible veto
                      -Tax bill
       -Timmons
               -Conversation with President
                      -Cabinet meeting
-Timmons
       -Laird
-Laird
       -Press conference, June 6, 1973
               -Harlow’s conversation with Laird
-Scranton
       -Possible role with administration
               -Recent conversation with Harlow
                      -Telephone calls
                      -Congressional relations
                      -Lack of option
               -Recent conversation with President
               -Environmentalists
               -Conversation with President
                      -Nuclear power
                              -Grants [?]
               -Role
                      -Politics
               -Mary Lowe Chamberlin Scranton
                      -Conversations with William Scranton
                      -[Barbara (Masters) Laird]
                              -Melvin Laird
               -Conversation with Harlow
                      -Timing
                      -Presidential request
                              -Harlow’s experience
               -Conversation with President
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                      -Mary Scranton
                      -Compared to George W. Romney
                              -God
                      -Energy policy
                      -Political orientation
                              -Children’s influence
                              -Toughness
                              -Compared to Charles H. Percy
                              -Trust
                      -Administrative problem
                      -Watergate
                      -Energy

Kissinger
       -Briefings of Congress
       -Timmons’s conversation with Haig
       -Standing ovation
       -House of Representatives
       -Vietnam negotiations
               -Communique
                      -President’s message to Nguyen Van Thieu
                             -Tone

President’s address to nation addressing price control measures, June 13, 1973
       -Harlow’s viewing
       -Public relations
               -President’s conversation with Haig
               -Telephone calls
                       -Rose Mary Woods
                       -Price freeze
                       -Beginning and end of speech
                               -Economy
                               -Draft, Vietnam

President’s accomplishments
       -Stopping riots
               -Pentagon
               -Department of Health Education and Welfare [HEW]
                       -Robert H. Finch
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President’s address to nation addressing price control measures, June 13, 1973
       -Tone
               -Delivery
                       -Difference from previous speeches
       -Preparation
               -Raymond K. Price, Jr., President
       -Response
       -Samuel L. Devine and conservative
               -Harlow’s view

Congressional relations
      -Conservatives
              -Mood

Watergate
      -John W. Dean, III
             -Actions
             -Allegations
      -Ervin Committee hearings
             -Stans
             -Audience
                    -Compared to Hiss Case

Press relations
        -Hiss testimony
                -Confrontation [with Whittaker Chambers]
        -Hiss case
                -Effect on President
                -Harvard University
                -Franklin D. Roosevelt, United Nations [UN], New Deal, Communism
        -Jerry Voorhis
                -Relations with Voorhis
        -Helen Gahagan Douglas
        -Voorhis
                -Relations with Harlow
                        -Harlow’s work on floor of House of Representatives
                -Relations with left
                -Hiss
        -Hiss
        -Douglas
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                -Vote margin
                -Carl Vinson’s conversation with Harlow
                       -Armed Services Committee bill
                       -Mental stability
                               -St. Louis
                -Speaking style
                -President’s 1950 campaign
                -Voting record
                -Vito Marcantonio

Marcantonio
      -Political orientation
      -Relations with President
      -Clare E. Hoffman
              -Michigan
      -John E. Rankin

Rankin
         -Speechmaking ability
         -Sister
                 -Recent conversation with President
                        -Mississippi
                        -Admiration for President

Harlow
         -Starting date
                 -July 2, 1973
         -Congress’s schedule
                 -Recess
                 -Laird
                         -Families

President’s address to nation addressing price control measures
       -Possible attacks on Congress
       -Cabinet speeches
       -Price and budget increases, exports and meat and egg prices
       -Alaska pipeline
       -1974 election
               -Compared to Harry S. Truman and Republican Congress
                       -Robert A. Taft, Sr. - Fred A. Hartley Act, George C. Marshall
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Plan, Greek-Turkish loan, Point IV

       1948 election
              -Truman
              -Thomas E. Dewey
                     -Campaign
                           -Farm vote
                           -Hiss case
                                  -John Foster Dulles and Allen W. Dulles
                                  -Truman’s “red herring” comment
                           -Herbert Brownell, J. Russel Sprague, [Edwin Jaeckle]
                           -Compared to 1972 campaign
                                  -Use of surrogates
                                         -George S. McGovern

       Watergate
             -Effects on 1972 election
             -Bugging Democrat National Headquarters [DNC]
                     -President’s response
                            -McGovern
                     -Causes

       Harlow
                -Contacts with President
                       -Laird

       President’s schedule
              -Sequoia
                      -Dinner
              -San Clemente
                      -White House
                             -Avoid misstatements [Watergate]
                             -Wives
                      -Key Biscayne
                             -Unknown committee members

       Harlow
                -Role on White House staff
                       -Delivery of bad news
                              -Role on Dwight D. Eisenhower’s staff
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                                     -Conversations concerning Truman visit to White House
                                           -Sherman Adams
                                           -Jerry Persons
                                           -Tom Stephens
                                           -James C. Hagerty
                                           -Ann Whitman
                                           -Eisenhower
                                                   -Reaction
                                                          -Doubt of Truman’s acceptance of
invitation
                                                            -Unknown Truman staff member
                                                                   -Washington, DC
                                                            -Telegram
                                                            -Mamie G. D. Eisenhower, Bess
(Wallace) Truman
                                                            -Second Unknown Soldier
dedication
                                     -Invitations to Harry Truman
                                             -Truman’s statement
                                                     -European trip

       President’s schedule
              -Percy
              -Hubert H. Humphrey
              -Eugene J. McCarthy
              -McGovern
                      -1973 Inauguration
              -Humphrey, McCarthy
              -Chou En-Lai, Leonid I. Brezhnev
                      -Compared to McGovern
                      -Compared to each other
                             -Intellectualism, earthiness

       Brezhnev
             -Compared to Nikita S. Khrushchev
                   -Crudeness, toughness, impulsiveness, niceness, earthiness

       Chou

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       President’s schedule
              -Diplomatic credential ceremony

The unknown man left at an unknown time before 1:32 pm.

       Chou
               -Meeting with Gerald R. Ford
                      -Ford’s subsequent conversation with Harlow
                             -John W. McCormack
                                    -Franklin D. Roosevelt
                                    -World War II
                                    -[Carl B. Albert]

Harlow left at 1:32 pm.

       President’s schedule
              -Shultz
              -Diplomatic credentials ceremony
                      -Agnew [?]

Haig left at 1:35 pm.

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Have you any indication that Bush is deliberately holding back the top invitations?
No, no.
George would never do that without telling me.
George is a wonderful, decent public.
What I want him to do, rather than hold him back, Mr. Stern, I want to be on top, put on top, and send him for the great invitations, not just the party, but, you know, the great editorial invitations.
He's got an invitation for this, for that, and the other thing, and everything.
Yes, sir.
The power, the power groups in America to see this man, particularly in the north, the west, and the midwest.
The power groups must see him, so that we can all carry him.
Why don't you go in the south then?
What's he got there?
He doesn't have to waste time there.
You ought to go there too, because they love him.
You ought to go to Atlanta.
You ought to shoot him.
Professor Nash.
What?
Atlanta, Nashville, Louisville.
Southern Florida.
Well, Connelly, I agree with you.
I think he's an extraordinary man.
I think he's making a great comic.
How are you going to handle a problem with no visible means of support?
It's already a weak sink there.
The wheeler dealer, the...
I don't think it's the wheeler dealer.
The lawyer.
Lawyers always, always have a conversation with the traveling driver.
Right.
Right.
Yes.
Yes.
So we just stand up.
But with John Compton, that is just a peripheral issue.
I've been through that myself.
It's a peripheral issue.
And he's a member of a great law firm.
And the fact that he isn't here all the time, so he makes a trip abroad.
But there's one trip abroad with John Collins where he's part of a few dollars show.
And there he is.
And he was charged with it.
He was charged with it.
But he's done.
That's all we do, though.
Okay.
Well, he's rich, except compared to the buddies that he'd like to go around with.
He loves them.
He doesn't really like Palm Springs and Jamaica, and I think he's got himself a job in Jamaica.
I would say he's going to pot there.
I think he's going to go to pot in the region.
The region.
The blacks can't run it.
and they won't be approved for a hundred years.
And maybe not for a thousand years.
Well, a little miscegenation might help.
Do you know maybe one black country as well?
I guess you're afraid of politics is one of the best, but that's a good one.
I'll tell you about it.
There are new people who talk English like he does, and there are new tribes, and it's about one half of the persons that are part of the party.
I think most of them are pretty well educated, but you haven't got one, three, five hundred in the world.
There are not.
Well, their strengths are not in conceptual thinking.
They're marvelous.
They're marvelous in terms of philosophy.
That's why they all go to school.
They come from all over the country and so forth.
There are a lot of schools starting on bombs.
Now, that's your political way.
The other thing, and I want you to continue, you know, you're perfect in this field, but not just the Mexicans.
And not just the Mexicans.
No Jews.
We are, we are, we are, when I say no Jews, you get a good one, of course, you do.
But I mean, don't, don't, don't say it, don't let anybody come and say we need the Jewish, we don't need the Jewish.
Mexicans are important.
It's hard to find them.
But Italians, Eastern Europeans, that sort of thing, there's each standard that you can.
And all of the German workers in Canada are so sensitive about that.
It's what they call excellence.
We ought to find a few people that aren't, you know, with the good colors that you did, who are still at excellence.
That's why this astonishment is something that I cannot tolerate.
And it's all over to us.
It's all over to us.
Elliot Riggins doesn't think anybody's worth a damn.
It's like a Harvard Law School.
What do you got?
He tries not to think that way.
And I'm kidding about it.
But the way they honor Henry Kissinger, he doesn't think nice of Henry.
Gosh, they've got schools of foreign relations.
They've got great universities.
They've got one in Iowa.
They've got one in Ohio State.
And I said, why can't we get one of their men in there?
The great universities are a hazard right now in many ways.
That?
The, uh... You were working on something.
Yeah.
You told me it was a can of worms.
It is.
It was a little...
The idea of Lady Bird doesn't sound right.
I never had a suggested Lady Bird that got a print.
That doesn't sound either.
Well, it did get a print.
Alice got a print.
But the reason it doesn't sound the same...
I don't even know what to do with it.
It just sounds like something.
I just don't think it's the right thing to do.
I find a Bill Marriott, Jr., that type.
I think you need a tough manager, a male.
You could have, for example, Don Kendall.
Oh, neat, neat.
I don't know what you need to do with it.
It's just a short time.
I'd go with that, right?
I think a lot of it depends on the kind of importance you're going to attach to it.
That may do a lot for you.
And that's what we need, and particularly because it has been about to lapse, it's way behind, and it needs strong leadership now.
But you have named exactly the type of man I think it's prized for now.
I don't think he got hurt.
No, listen, you can't have an outlet type of deal now.
No, you need a runner, a manager.
Legislation that came out of the House is, you know, we can live with it.
I think Veruska, I had breakfast with Veruska yesterday.
He's a good hand, and he's going to try to doctor it up so that we get a stronger role for the number one man.
The way to work it out, the way to work it out is just to shake down all of the ideas.
God.
What about a recently retired guy?
They're still retired.
Well let me get some names.
A recently retired guy would be a great pervert, somebody who's 65.
You'll bless wishing he had another 20 years to go in his company.
I don't think so.
I think they ought to be on the board or be up front.
Chairman of the Advising Committee maybe.
Now another one that you might think of would be Frank Barley.
Does he have administrative ability?
Well, they just may not have any parents.
I didn't know that.
He might be a daddy.
Frank Barley could do it.
Perfect.
He's totally our man.
Does he need money now?
He does need the money.
He couldn't leave.
He couldn't leave.
He couldn't go home.
He's got the money.
He's got the money.
That's the name that does occur to me.
They're around.
They're there.
Just have a look.
Let me put some
together and I'll give it out to him and he can run it by you.
Well, yeah, sure.
If you look the way you think it's good, that's all I need to hear.
I'm sorry to say something like that.
I may know something about it.
I don't know.
We're drowning here.
So that's a great story on the Las Vegas
She died from eating poison mushrooms.
She died of a crushing fall.
She wouldn't do it again.
Okay.
See what I'm trying to do?
Yeah.
Okay.
What else is he doing?
Well, of course, he broke off the cost of living council and domestic council.
I don't know about the economics, but... All right.
I'm just going to press back and do what you sent me.
A good letter.
I'm going to... You've got to come back.
She's afraid of me.
Thank you.
I think it's the best thing you can do.
You should sleep now.
You should sleep.
What I had to do was to buy the time to get the doctor's attention.
Now we have to sell, sell, sell, sell, sell.
Don't you think you could have been right every time I thought you were wrong, sir?
Well, I think you- What are we going to do now, Paul?
The sixty-eight years of price or something is not a waste.
It's wage control that's very, very important.
Thank God.
Wages are not a separate thing.
Oh, sure.
The other point is, with the unprocessed agriculture, everybody wants to go sell.
There's no wage in the land for unprocessed agriculture.
My daughter, Christian Julie, who has a very good job, said to me, asked me, why didn't you put those hundred children in the tax cuts you guys have?
You know, unprocessed, that's wheat.
That's corn.
That's stuff that is not sold in the markets.
It is sold directly to the consumer.
Farm medicine.
but it's an unprocessed vector called the fluid.
Basically, the price is ensured, followed by the dependent weather and the rest, and the dependent fireless intentions that are due to the freeze.
What will happen is that first, it's almost impossible to enforce it because those markets fluctuate wildly every day.
Second, it'll lead to shortages, because the microcarbons are planted, and if you've got it fresh, both in the present and in the dry,
But of course, even the retail parts of process and the furniture, we're also going to put it in there now.
I'm saying to sell it too.
I do the property for people.
You don't have to see your piece of the cabinet.
It's the rest of the five members of the team.
I know that this is nonsense.
It's very embarrassing.
It's very painful.
It's just a bloodline.
It's a drag.
It's a game.
It's a fun game.
They're like the audience.
They have their song.
They're involved in this.
But the idea is absolutely not.
I'm not depressed.
I think the corner's turned.
Bob Dole told me just a couple of days ago, he said, whenever I say my speeches, now it's time to stand up for the president, the whole room gets up and cheers.
I think things are definitely looking up, and I don't have any...
Thank you.
Okay, well, I'll work with you people.
It's been a little bit disorganized to try to get more of these.
All right.
Come in, Brian.
Hello.
Come in.
Al, who is it?
All right.
I have an appointment.
There's my 1230 appointment right now.
I am.
I just told the man about you, Brian.
I told him that I was expecting you to change the order.
Always a little bit.
She said she thought you were really difficult and she tried.
Well, that's the other end.
Maybe we can text her for a moment.
All right.
Text her.
All right.
Always fun.
Always a little bit.
All right.
Bye-bye.
Thanks, Ruth.
Okay.
And can you still see me at 2 o'clock?
I'm not this year.
Okay.
We'll see.
Bye-bye.
Now, the things you've got to work out in all of that could be you and me in crisis or cold.
It must be at the outside.
Because there's potential jealousies.
There's a potential jealousy now.
There's a potential conflict of the name on the other side.
And there's a potential conflict between us.
Now, beginning with the east, I don't think Texas is a problem.
Because Texas is still going to do the work, and they're just going to love to have some big towns instead of them calling the president every day and saying, Mr. President, what are you going to do about this?
I was thinking standing up wasn't very good for Brian or me.
What are you standing on?
My back.
I was into it yesterday.
Should we be sitting here or should we be walking around?
I'll be sitting here.
Sitting at your desk like this?
I'll be sitting here.
Diplomatic projections.
If you want to go to Nepal, that's where we're going.
Yemen.
You like Yemen, right?
There's Malawi.
I'd like that one.
How about this?
How about that?
Oman.
I didn't say it.
I didn't say it.
I didn't say it.
I didn't say it.
I didn't say it.
I didn't say it.
But, I know she is delighted about that, and I told her that I expected you and her to agree to work with Bush.
I also gave her a hard couple of instructions in common.
I said that he wasn't being used enough as a party, and that I know it was jealousy that she's going to have to finish what I was about to do with my honor.
You can't be speaking about Philadelphia, you can't be speaking about Atlanta.
Get this man out, he's a big gun, he's the best seller.
You've got to get him out and lose a bunch of money.
You've got to get him out and lose a bunch of money.
How about George?
George?
George, I'm wondering...
Okay.
Thank you.
I haven't known that.
But I'll tell you, you can be the hand over for George in one of the races.
But I just don't think you can be a hand over.
You've got to be in a position to help and make plays.
That's not really fun at all.
You see, the team will be, despite what Alan has on the weekly strategy, the real inside team will be Hague, Harlow, Laird, and I guess if you're not reading, there's a cat with a kiss in your hand.
He talks about that here a lot on W3.
Bring him in sometimes if you want for a social thing.
Right.
or even that's not a good idea.
That's good.
I'm fine.
Don't play it.
Play it.
Bring her now, then.
She has no fear.
She's very good that way.
She's perfectly self-confident right now.
Oh, I think she's great.
Yeah.
But in terms of the team, I think the four of us really ought to be able to have a meeting.
But you can't have a meeting at eight.
No way.
You can't have a meeting at two.
Very good.
Maybe.
But beyond that, my, it's gross.
What do you guys think?
What do we do?
In other words, I'm talking about where we should be.
We're going to have to think about where we should be.
What do you think?
Well, sir, it seems to me like...
I understand what you're saying.
I think it should be what you're saying.
Where they're continuing that mixture of memories.
Oh, bring Henry when you can.
The only reason I said that is I think it's good for him to be reminded that, yes, Virginia, there is an American.
There is an American.
That's right.
And a province.
And you're thinking in areas that he doesn't talk with you much.
I would not include him.
I'm not going to include him.
I'm not going to include him.
I'm not going to include him.
They understand a lot.
And each of them I consider to be professional experts.
And each of them, whatever his other abilities are, he doesn't know.
He's tailed the first base of technologies.
Not really.
He's been in it, but he doesn't understand.
He's too inflexible.
What we've got here, we've got to have flexibility.
We've got to have confidentiality.
Now we've got a problem there.
That's not it.
L leaves.
I think he'll do what he's expected to do.
You see one leak, and he'll start.
Look, we all know that I'm not going to leak, and you won't, even at all.
So it's up to Mel.
But we've got to have Mel in.
He must not be in the outside.
And it's valuable.
No, but he'll play it straight because he can't afford not to make sure.
There's no way.
There's no way.
It's different than when he was secretary.
And afforded his share.
This is now your show.
He's the subordinate in your office.
Whereas he was running for the best of five, in a sense.
And he could leave whatever he pleased, I guess, there.
It's not like...
Now, if we could, I would like Bryce and basically the two of you to kind of like maybe do something about Bryce's portfolio.
I mean, there are things that are to be done here.
I don't want you
Your old job.
See, that's why I wouldn't ask you back for that.
See, otherwise, and I don't want you to hurt him, because, but on the other hand, when there's terribly big plays, like the New Year, do we not beat the clock, or the tax bill, I think you should be out.
That's what I mean.
And Bill is just delighted with us because of this.
Bill is happy.
I'm happy.
Yeah.
Well, he's a great guy.
He's a real big player.
And he's told me that...
I think their major...
He's making a contest on Bryce and Mel and Christian.
Mel, you know, when he came in, his press conference, he was pretty... pretty... kind of big of a swap.
It's all right.
We did it right.
Well, I told Mel I couldn't wait to have my own press conference, so I could just nail this cartoon's tale on the fire.
I said, you're already down.
I'll kill you.
As soon as I get my first press conference, I'll kill you.
You know, I don't know.
I won't hurt you.
What do you think about this, Frank?
Well, I don't like it the way I do it else.
You know, sir, I like it.
Well, I'm going to reach what it may not be a confidence.
No, he told me to call you.
Did he, sir?
Well, I don't know.
Didn't you say he was calling everybody over and over again?
Every time we offered Bill something, he calls everybody in town.
Pick a move.
Now you're going out with the killer.
Well, he called me, and I told him I had to do it.
I didn't know how to do it.
I told him, I said, well, Bill, I don't want him to be like, that's academic.
I don't want him to be like that.
And what the point is, you don't have an option, do you?
You don't have an option.
You don't have an option.
You don't have an option.
You don't have an option.
You don't have an option.
You don't have an option.
You don't have an option.
You don't have an option.
You don't have an option.
You don't have an option.
We put him right in the sword.
I don't see how I've heard that from you.
Oh my gosh.
I've offered him practically everything.
Well, he has values here that, with the hellions, and his honors, he has terrible feelings.
What?
The environmental hellions.
Yeah, I know they must have much in your mind.
You must have been relying on him.
I don't think that is true.
Well, I would like to, I think they're dead.
No, but he has a... he makes a...
He's... Red-bellied with them.
He's hard for them to attack.
Hard.
Yes.
He agreed with me today that we wouldn't go forward without the crash.
He agreed with me on that.
He saw a few minutes and we had to do it.
That's what he noticed.
Well, he's obtained that Tractum Pana, and it's good for you to have.
Great for us to have.
It's hard for me.
That would be good for you.
And I was thinking about that.
We know Bill for a long time.
In many ways, in many configurations.
So, on and off.
That's right.
But, uh, nonetheless, and I say nonetheless, because there's things about him that wouldn't make you bring him in.
But he's a fine man.
He's a fine guy.
And he looks good.
The main problem with Bill is his wife.
She's so strong.
I'm going to go back and ask her.
I don't know.
I mean, Elsa would say the same thing.
I wouldn't tell if it wasn't for her.
Bill doesn't tell us, you know.
Mary would tell him.
What?
Well, I don't know.
He, um...
He changed it.
You see, I, uh, in order to help with him, I said, Bill, you're calling me at an extremely, uh, odd time.
I said, I must tell you in confidence, and there had to be a confirmation of that, that I'm on the press at the same time.
Now, I said, Bill, why am I doing that?
The president personally requested me to.
That's why.
And that's the only reason why.
There's no no to that.
And you ain't got one either.
So it fit in well.
Now, the end result of all of that was that I thought when I finished, I told him that he was definitely going to do it.
That was the clear impression I had.
He didn't say that, but I think... Well, he was very perceptive today.
He said, I've got to make a check, because I haven't talked to Mary in quite a long time.
The point is, apparently, he's going to go back to Mary and say, well, Mary, we've got to make this decision.
I think that's the way he does it, instead of chatting.
George Romney talks to God, and Bill talks to Mary.
Yeah, there's a mess worth talking to.
You know what I mean?
No, but looking at Bill Scranton, he's a decent man.
He'd be good to have around.
He'd be great to have in some of our small, large meetings where we discuss strategy.
Bill's a fine man.
And then he isn't all that liberal.
I mean, he is because of his kids and all the rest.
The kind of people he runs with.
If you put Bill in this job, Bill would be tough.
He'd be tough as hell.
Well, that tough as hell.
He's to the right of a person.
Don't talk to him.
He's not that far away.
Well, it's good to have someone that can express the concerns of that gang that you, at the same time, trust.
That's right.
Basically, that has an obligation.
Because then you know what you're up against.
Now, this will raise an interesting administrative problem, too, because you're in the same area we were talking before.
Yeah.
Because the rest of the club in the center will call a bill.
You see.
And that'll be great.
Definitely fun to work with it.
You'll find out what they're thinking.
They'll think about the water being.
Bill will talk about energy.
No, but that's very interesting.
Bill would consider this.
He's all especially about energy.
He's political enough to know that.
I just talked to him about energy.
He said it was unbelievable.
Spanning innovation before and after both houses
It was great.
They were on the house side.
They were all in there, over 200 of them, jamming around.
It was absolutely solid.
What was that?
He went over and agreed on the settlement we made.
We made a big settlement.
I said, we agreed on the second agreement, and he had not.
The North and South agreed only because of those brutal messes there, and sent a lot of pressure to the United States.
So, I just said, you heard about it.
Yeah, I watched it last night.
There was another different thing.
Yeah, I delivered it from there.
You know, I'm coming back to town now.
People call me here, and they're just talking to me.
Eighty percent of them didn't like it.
They didn't care about the freedoms.
They talked about the first and the last.
By God, this is not the end of it at all.
There are great things in the world, and our kids aren't being laughed at.
Nobody's been killed in Vietnam.
That's the kind of thing we've got to emphasize.
We've got great things for this country.
We've got more to do than that stuff.
You know, like what they were doing over there.
What's that?
Stuck these riots in the borough of Indyburg.
The riots?
That was on the E.D.W., remember?
That's where we had to work each other's office.
No, but you had a tough thing last night that was different, which I had urged you to keep.
What was that?
You were no nonsense.
You were not rhetorical at all.
You were, uh, you must have done this to me, but it was different from what you had wanted to do.
You were hitting hard, straight, chucking.
Here's the business.
Here's what we've got to do.
He said, you're safe.
That's facts.
No nonsense.
This is it.
Married with people.
And this is what we have to do.
He says, I came across excellent.
Now, I've never seen you be one quite like that before.
I don't know what the difference is.
Maybe I'm just making that up.
But it was a different thing to me.
No, I think you're right.
And it was very effective.
And maybe somebody...
Sorry, I'm tough.
Not tough, but...
Well, I want to know what made you want that sound.
Strong.
Strong.
Just totally straightforward.
And very convincingly.
In charge.
In charge.
That's important.
Sure.
No nonsense.
Straightforward.
Good night, American people.
Now, that just came across so nicely.
And somebody so competent, I feel, instead of me, might, um, run a, an examination of that.
And be able to identify it to you in a way that was meaningful to you.
Great, right, sir.
But I think I'll fall away from that speech, too.
I'm sure that, I'm sure you'll find me tough.
And maybe somebody...
I'm sorry, I'm tough.
Oh, not tough, but... Well, I want to... No, I mean what that sounds like.
Strong.
Strong.
And I'm sitting there with Sam Devines.
Sam Devines.
Oh, yeah.
That's 50 of them.
How are they?
Oh, yeah.
That's 50 of them.
How are they?
They don't like it.
Like it.
Even the conservatives?
They like it.
Of course, there's a few of them.
They don't like it.
Like it.
They liked it.
Of course, a few of them said, well, how's he going to make that work?
How's he going to make that work?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
That's the toughest ground on the hill.
Thank God we're not on the roof.
Oh yeah, we're very, very pleased.
Thank God we're not on the roof.
Oh yeah, we're very, very pleased.
And they, them, they, they weren't, they're not.
And they, them, they, they weren't, they're not down.
That crowd's there.
You know, they're tough, rough, practical guys.
They're down.
That crowd's there.
You know, they're tough, rough, practical guys.
They're not this hard to get in trouble.
They're not this hard to get in trouble.
Well, they know we've been through it.
Well, we've just got to go through it.
Well, we've got to be down, but at the same time, we can't ever be up.
That's what I mean.
They know we've been through a lot, and we're going through a lot of violence.
But we've just got to go through it and stay alive.
I can't breathe.
I can't breathe.
It's really a shocking thing.
Well, we've got to be down.
We're in time, and it can't be helped.
That's what I mean.
I can't breathe.
I can't breathe.
I can't breathe.
I can't breathe.
How could he live with himself?
I know.
I think we're throwing out that thing and that too.
He doesn't care.
It's an act of total desperation.
It's lies.
It attacks everybody.
And it attacks the president.
Imagine.
And the person in that picture.
How could he live with himself?
I know.
I think we're throwing out that thing and that too.
He doesn't care.
It's an act of total desperation.
And the person in that picture, that one?
I guess.
I'll be charged with every crime.
I guess.
I'll be charged with every crime.
There is no law that would overuse.
Well, he can't.
He cannot.
He cannot indict the president.
There is no law that would overuse.
Well, he can't.
He cannot.
He cannot indict the president.
He will.
He will.
Well, he can't.
The president told me that he would.
So we'll just deny it.
He cannot deny it.
So we'll just deny it.
He cannot deny it.
In the future, I cannot, I cannot help myself.
As an evidence, I don't know whether you saw it, but everybody told me I had nothing good to say.
In the future, I cannot help myself.
As an evidence, I don't know whether you saw it, but everybody told me I had nothing good to say.
In the future, I cannot help myself.
In the future, I cannot help myself.
When I got in there in a confrontation, they stopped.
You see, they smoked out of there like...
They have hated me ever since.
That started hating you?
Absolutely, because I got one on that.
No, what started it?
It was Harvard.
It was Georgetown.
It was everything.
I was told it's...
The audience were there, you know, or...
The audience were there like the women.
And it was the UN.
It was Roosevelt.
It was the French Revolution at the gate.
Oh, sure.
Like they were in the history.
You know, they went on to testify the first time.
It's like, boy, when I got in there in a confrontation, they spoke out of their, like, they had hated me ever since.
That started hating me.
Absolutely, because I got one on that.
Well, what started it?
It was Harvard.
It was Georgetown.
It was everything.
And it was the U.N.
It was Roosevelt.
It was a real deal.
And it was Congress.
By the time they got through, I was, I believe it was a real deal.
And that deal was...
At this time, I hated it.
By the time they got here, I was almost to a man.
They don't know why.
It was practical issues.
I hated that press story.
I said, man, what do you think before?
I hated it a day or two.
Oh, before this?
Almost to a man.
They don't know why.
It was practical issues.
I said, man, what do you think before?
Before this?
A man who was a dear friend of mine.
A man who was the new dear friend of meat.
Jerry.
Jerry, where are you from?
Jerry, where are you from?
Jerry, where are you from?
Jerry, where are you from?
Jerry, where are you from?
Jerry, where are you from?
Jerry, where are you from?
Now when you beat Jerry, see I was on the left in the crest.
Now he didn't forgive you for working on that store, and Jerry was always hanging around by the library, you know, doing the house.
That's the way I came to know Jerry.
He was a nice guy.
A real nice guy.
But he was a target of the left in the crest.
Now he didn't forgive you for that.
You already were like partially down there too, marked by him, when you took on his.
And then, of course, take that.
You already were, like, partially down there until Mark ran.
And when he took her on his, every time he even does that, you know.
There are 670,000 police.
Then, of course, I was on the floor of the house one day working on armed services to get a deal with Carl Anderson.
I was taking down a man, and she came up and asked me sometimes, you know, does that, you know.
Hey, what's that?
She stays in this con in this one hall tonight.
And uh, she gave up an extra time to speak on the phone.
In Germany, she'll go to St. Louis.
She's crazy.
And then it meters.
So, it's time for her to use her tenets.
She was very disturbed, very disturbed.
I'll tell you what happened.
What'd she do?
She shrieked.
Yeah.
What'd she do?
She said, you know, Mr. Chet, we took her, and it wasn't because of any smear.
What's that mean?
She stays in this convent this one more time.
She'll go to St. Louis.
She's crazy.
And then they'd meet her, so she didn't have a chance to do something.
She was very disturbed, very disturbed.
I'll tell you what we did.
What'd she do?
She shrieked.
Yeah.
We took her, and it wasn't because of any spirit.
Correct.
It's just the fact that he goes blue shoes on the left.
She voted with Mark Antonio all the time.
She has...
It's just the fact that he goes blue shoes on the left.
Next to Mark Antonio, the most left-wing regular in the whole Congress.
That's all I said in the campaign.
I'm the right to say that, didn't I?
She voted with Mark Antonio all the time.
She has... Next to Mark Antonio, the most left-wing regular in the whole Congress.
That's all I can say to the campaign.
I have a right to say that.
They liked it.
I'm sitting there with Sam Devine.
Oh, yeah.
That's 50 of them.
How were they?
They liked it.
Even the conservatives?
They liked it.
Of course, a few of them said, well, how's he going to make that work?
But the heavy majority of that tough crowd
That's the toughest crowd out there.
Thank God we're not.
Oh, yeah, we're very, very pleased.
And they're not down.
That crowd's, you know, we have a tough crowd to practice with, guys.
They're not this hard of a trouble.
They know we've been through a lot, and we're going through a lot of bad things.
But we've just got to go through it and stay around it.
That's the reason I'm crying.
Well, we've got to be down at the same time, or you can't ever be up.
That's what I mean.
I'm feeling the turns.
It's really a shocking thing.
It's actually a challenge for the president.
He goes on and exaggerates lies, attacks everybody, and attacks the president.
Can you imagine?
How could he live with himself?
I know.
I think it's an act of total desperation.
And the person in that picture, that one.
He will be charged with every crime there is in the law in the world against him.
Well, he cannot.
He cannot.
He cannot indict the president.
He will.
Well, he can't.
The president told me to pay him money.
The president told me to fund a little bit of money.
So we'll just deny him.
He cannot.
He cannot deny.
He cannot.
He cannot.
The chief cannot indict you by himself.
As an evidence, I don't know whether any of you saw it, everybody told me, I thought you could say it was great.
They said it was a moving statement, not the real one.
It's not, did you see it?
No, but I was told it's, the audience there, you know, are, the audience are there like the women in the French Revolution at the age.
Oh, sure.
Like they were in the history.
And they didn't, you know, they went on to testify the first time.
This is why when I got in there in a confrontation, they spoke about it there like they had hated me ever since.
That started hating me.
Absolutely, because I got one on that.
It was Harvard, it was Georgetown, it was everything.
And it was the UN, it was Roosevelt, it was the New Deal.
Adam was cognizant of the time they got through.
I was.
I had been hated by that press corps, and I hated it a day by them.
Almost to a man.
They don't know why.
It goes back to what it seems.
But I had one thing before.
Which point is?
The man who was a dear friend of mine.
Who you beat.
Jerry Morgan?
The first man in the county.
Yeah, I beat you with that, Jerry Morgan.
That's Jerry Morgan.
Now, why don't you take the numbers?
Now, when you beat Jerry,
See, I was working on the house floor, and Jerry was always hanging around by the library and doing the house.
That's the way I came to know Jerry so well.
He was a nice guy.
A real nice guy.
But he was a target of the left in the press.
That's right.
Well, he didn't forgive you for that.
You already were partially down there too, markedly, when you took on his.
And then, of course, take it down to Hayden Douglas that night.
There were 670,000 police.
I was on the floor of the house one day working on armed services to get a deal with Congress.
And she came up and asked me some time to speak on the field.
I was a car carrier gunner for track and field.
I was a car carrier gunner for track and field.
And I buried me in that.
Oh, I like it.
I like it a lot.
I've been up in your department for a yard.
Well, Mr. President, I'm very, very glad.
Oh, I like it.
I like Mark.
You know, man, I'm just here to move very little.
I made up a new apartment in New York.
Well, Mr. President, man, I'm just a valentine person.
Thanks, sir.
I don't like to be a valentine person.
Thanks, sir.
I don't like to just stand in a bar and let's have a little pop.
And he was fun.
He was the only, he and our, and our old friend, our old friend must have a little pocket for me.
And he was fun.
He was the only, he and our, and our old friend for me.
They used to get very hungry.
They used to get up at the school.
They used to get very hungry.
They used to get up at the school.
That was a real gunfight.
If they ever had a real gunfight,
that they ever did.
And even Ransom did.
And even Ransom did.
Ransom was not done.
Ransom was the best one-minute speech maker.
Ransom was not done.
Ransom was the best one-minute speech maker, a deliverer.
He would always end a one-minute speech on another page.
A deliverer.
He would always end a one-minute speech on another page.
I said, oh yeah, great.
We punch him in the mention in the middle of the night.
I'm waking my valentine's day.
I'm waking my valentine's day.
I'm waking my valentine's day.
I'm waking my valentine's day.
fire fire fire fire fire fire fire fire fire fire fire fire
Well, uh, Mr. Cousins, I'll get out of your way.
I, uh... No, I just like to tell your birthday, right?
Well, uh, Mr. Cousins, I'll get out of your way.
Okay, I, uh...
Isn't it?
That Congress will vote at the end of July 2nd.
Now you have to do that to be able to release that assessment.
Now look, I don't think that's too necessary for him to come to July 2nd.
Isn't it?
That Congress will vote at the end of July 2nd.
Now you have to do that to be able to release that assessment.
Did the chairman agree with that one?
So, it's time for her to leave her tent, isn't it?
She won't answer that, will she?
I want you to do something.
I'll tell you what, Mr. Chadwick.
I'll tell you what, Chadwick.
Listen.
I won't guarantee you one thing.
If she stays in this Congress one more time, she'll go to St. Louis.
She's crazy.
Ha ha!
And then they beat her so she didn't have a chance to do it.
She was very disturbed.
Well, I'll keep checking.
I'll keep checking.
If it's going to be a run, it's going to be a run.
Very disturbed.
I'll tell you what we did.
What'd she get?
She shrieked.
Yeah.
We took her.
And it wasn't because of any spirit.
Correct.
It was just the fact that he couldn't move, she was on the left.
She couldn't do this, she was down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here, down here,
Ma'am, what's the deal next?
Congress could win that act without using prices.
I just can't agree with the question.
I think that's a pretty good question.
What's the deal in the Congress for not giving the President the legislation to stop these exports?
They want everything from Congress to the P.A.
law and the state dividend for what I said last Friday.
They're the ones who have to show up and speak up seriously.
Huh?
The little buddies in crisis are raising questions.
I get that pretty good much.
But the meat of the Congress is we're not giving the President the legislation to even stop these exports of foods.
We have a fair amount of prices to take off the table here.
But the meat of the Congress is the fact they don't give us their last pie.
They're the ones who have the strategies to come serve us.
Huh?
The little buddies in crisis.
The little buddies in crisis.
I might do this.
I don't want to do it.
But like I said before, I might find it necessary to run against this time.
But like I said, I might do this.
I don't want to do it.
But like I said, and your people are...
That's all I said in the campaign.
I'm the right to say that.
We passed the Marshall Plan.
We passed the Greek-Turkish loan.
We passed the Olds-Ford giveaway.
Congress cooperated with Truman.
We passed Point 4, and he still wins.
We passed the Marshall Plan.
This Congress, as we've last agreed, made our foreign policy virtually impossible to stop.
By God, I am a man cut into pieces for Turkish law.
I will be passed almost once they will know it, or give away the program.
We've had...
I've always disagreed.
If I had to fight for it, I've always disagreed.
And he still would.
I've cut our guns on that 48 race of children.
I don't think it's a technical accomplishment for him.
I think Tom Doody loves to do it.
Tom has made our foreign policy work.
Don't you think so?
Well, we were being impossible in this time.
By God, I am a man cut into pieces.
I one day will know it.
I've always disagreed.
If I have.
I've always disagreed with his story.
It's about that 48 race of children.
I don't think it's an attack on a congresswoman or a mayor.
I think Tom Doody loves to do it.
I mean, they didn't protect it all.
Another thing too, Billy.
I mean, they didn't protect it all.
Another thing, take the fight.
You know that 48 was the year we broke the escape.
The year we broke the escape.
That was the year we broke the escape.
We could have killed him on the escape.
Well, I didn't call this a red herring.
Peter talked to Neil Connors before he could knock a brick.
they were not allowed they were not allowed
We were right, but we did it the right way.
This time, we had our service out there.
And if we hadn't had water, we wouldn't have had this situation.
We've made that a success, and I encourage everyone to do it.
Water, hey, what's up?
Hey, what's up?
What's up?
What's up?
What's up, sir?
I heard a man from the stinking thing.
Shoot.
All right.
Never again have I heard of a police officer who has an identity of the same name as the chief of the police, and I've never actually spoken to anybody who was present.
My view is that never again have I heard of a police officer who has an identity of the same name as the chief of the police, and I've never actually spoken to anybody who was present.
My view is that never again have I heard of a police officer who has an identity of the same name as the chief of the police, and I've never actually spoken to anybody who was present.
Why are they doing that?
And wrong, and wrong.
Oh, I like it.
I like it.
I've been up to your apartment in New York.
Well, Mr. President, I'm just a loud talker, so...
So what do you think I do to my...
I don't like this sort of thing.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
Experiencing this kind of life, I'm liking it.
That's where you're going to get the call.
Yep.
That's right.
That's right.
Now, Bryce, one thing I want to say to you.
One thing I want to say to you.
Amen.
I was also praying for you.
Thank you.
Mel, will I be back?
Mel, will I be back?
Mel will not listen.
Mel will not listen.
He will be back.
He will be back.
He may not be back.
He may not be back.
He may not be back.
He may not be back.
He feels he's got to see me.
He feels he's got to see me.
You are not back.
You are not back.
Let's have a little talk.
Have a little talk.
He is the only, he and our old friends of me, they used to, they used to get up and that was a real gut fight.
But I want you to feel, feel, feel, feel now, you know, now, you know, that's what I'm talking about.
Why don't you sit out there?
Why don't you sit out there?
I don't.
I don't.
But we can handle the problem.
No, we can handle the problem.
No, we can't.
Because the lady, the lady, the office is full all the time.
The office is full all the time.
But I don't want you to feel.
I don't want you to feel.
We have a different position.
We have a different position.
It's all the other way.
It's all the other way.
And I really think that we need to be static, static, very, very.
My view is that we probably don't have to do it.
Have a nice day.
Have a nice day.
Sit around.
Sit around and guess.
What do you think?
And guess.
What do you think?
This is fun.
This is fun.
This is great.
All right.
You can always do good things.
All right.
You can always do good things in that environment.
The other thing is that I feel that on our trip, on our trip, certain people are dead.
And even Rankin, Rankin was not done.
Rankin was the best one-minute speech maker ever.
He would always end a one-minute speech on another page.
Listen, I agree.
If you punch him in the middle of the night, California, California, California,
I hit him, I hit him before he could go, before he could go.
Goes there, goes there, let's fool the wands, let's fool the wands.
Two birds, back, back, back.
One inch, inch, and they go off, and they go off, and they go off, and they go off, and they go off, and they go off, and they go off, and they go off.
That day, the first thing that I heard from the sister the other day, she stood up and said, who are you?
I said, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
Yep, there is.
Yep, there is.
Yep, there is.
Yep, there is.
There are many, of course, there are many, of course, members, members of that.
Well, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll,
I don't think that's too necessary for him to come July 2nd.
That Congress is going to be in July 2nd.
Well, Al, you can check that over.
You know, it's going to be a run-of-the-mill business around here.
The rule of the balance is the same.
And yet the partnership is gone for a few days.
So let Bryce and Mel and the rest spend all the time with the families.
And after that, I walked in.
But you know, but you know, I'll give you an example of the kind of thing you bring me in.
I'll just tell you as quickly as I can.
He was best.
He was about to leave office without ever having any interaction with the Michaels.
And in 1916, 16, 19, 19, 15, 15, I went to Germanic.
I went to Germanic.
It was supposed to be 15, 15, 18.
And...
And I said to him, I said to him, I said to him, I said to him, I said to him, I said to him,
I might be, but because I don't want to.
I said I might do this.
I don't want to.
But by 74...
I need the office.
I need the office.
And have this thing over here.
Make him feel bad for the rest of his life.
You must have let him do that to himself.
You must have let him do that to himself.
I'm going to cut their guts out because of what they've done to us.
We passed the Marshall Plan.
We passed the Greek-Turkish loan.
We passed all those four MOA programs.
We passed .4.
He said, I'm not.
I said, right.
I said, right.
I'm a very, very personal.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
I see Jay.
This Congress has made our foreign policy virtually impossible.
By God, I am a man cut into pieces.
But I one day will know it.
If I have to.
I've always disagreed with historians about that 48 race of children.
I don't think it's a fact how Congress won it before here.
I think Tom really lost it.
would you think so well we remember what happened another thing too do we take the fight do you know that 48 was the year we broke the districts that was the year despite the fact that even i think the cost of dollars
or certainly how early he was killed in one of his cases why didn't you call the surveillance he said
They would not let him say it.
They said he would grab away votes, he had one, and just to be sweetness in life.
But we did somewhat the same thing, except for two.
But we were right this time.
We had our service on hand.
You guys think it's obvious?
You guys think it's obvious?
So, I don't care.
I don't care.
I don't care.
And I said, I don't want to be mad, I told her.
I told him, I said, you better don't tell your son about you, Barry.
He was that damn happy with me.
So it was happening.
Managed to do a little bit of that.
So I'm just proud of the teachers here on the stand.
And I'm like, well, that's great.
Number two, I think, which I have to tell you, that you will probably get a percentage of what I'm saying.
I was just starting a particular memory.
So I went through that.
And I told him, I said, Fred will tell you something about you.
You're very unhappy with me.
So I was listening, and he listened to it.
I told him.
He just was confused.
And I told him, I said, Chris, what do you want?
And he said, it's going to bother me.
I said, listen, I think what I ought to tell you is you will probably get mad enough before I get far enough in there so that you can hear me.
We ran into each other in the bathroom.
We were running around.
We said, we won't come.
I said, I'm not trusting.
I didn't do this.
That's not right.
I've already gone through it, Dad.
I said, okay.
And then he goes, Dad, I hope you try to let me.
So I was listening.
And he listened to it.
He looked at me.
He wasn't listening.
And I think it's often people like
and he comes with you, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this,
I'm going to end up with six of us.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to end up with six of us.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
Now, something of that kind...
Well, let me tell you, let me tell you the next part.
If anything, I have had, I have had, let me keep it from you, I have had all the things.
God, I have had every trade.
I think it's up to you to accept it.
Correct.
I'm a legal witness on this.
I don't do it at all.
I'm a person.
I don't do it at all.
I'm a person.
I don't do it at all.
He said, how do you like my name?
I said, tell me.
I said, how free?
He said, how do you like my name?
I said, tell me.
I said, tell me.
I said, tell me.
I said, tell me.
I said, tell me.
I said, tell me.
I said, tell me.
I said, tell me.
I said, tell me.
I said, tell me.
I said, tell me.
I said, tell me.
I mean, I mean, it could be that, uh, we find a time where that might be useful.
I think it was just before you knew that you were not free to come.
Look, I don't need independence and so forth.
I don't need to come.
I don't care who they are.
I don't care who they are.
I don't care who they are.
I don't know what it is.
I don't know what they hold on.
You know, it needed to be said, as a matter of fact.
200 giga.
Excuse me, could you come and watch as he was going to Europe?
And he what?
Is he a seminar teacher?
Yes, but not so crude.
And not as quick.
Khrushchev, in terms of mental reactions, stirred and so forth.
And he said...
As quick as anybody in the world.
He was no solace.
Rushback, just as tough as a screw shot.
But then, he lied to Steve about the others.
About the others.
Now, something of that kind takes place in the end.
It's about the truth.
And I think that the next part, if anything, I'm going to be nicer to them like that.
I mean, they're very nice to me, and I'm going to be nicer to them.
But still, very much what I'm going to do, I'm going to do a good job in the sense that they are both very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, unbelievable in this office.
I'll do it all.
You know, we're doing live.
We're doing live.
We're doing live.
We're doing live.
We're doing live.
We're doing live.
We're doing live.
And I listened to Joe and I was like, this place is amazing.
And I was like, I can't do this.
And I was like, I can't do this.
And I was like, I can't do this.
And I was like, I can't do this.
And I was like, I can't do this.
Before John left office, he stayed here.
He was basically a business owner.
One of the ways that I like it, he wants.
And here, he went and turned us into people.
He just wanted to come.
He wanted to come.
He wanted to do this for an hour.
It's a summary of his great days, working with the Wilson guys, too.
And still, I love him.
He's a great guy.
He's a great job.
Oh, yeah, I understand.
He always does a great job.
All right.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, that's very sweet of him.
He always does a great job.
Am I a fan?
Of course.
Of World War II.
Yeah.
I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,
I think it was just before you threw that in the hole for you.
Jerry, I don't care.
I'm Joe and I. Joe and I?
Joe and I are talking about that.
Very, very long time.
Really?
I got it.
I'll sit down.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
What was the deal with it?
I don't know what they both are.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure.
Is he a seminary teacher?
Is he a seminary teacher?
Yes, but not so crude.
And not as quick.
This is Khrushchev.
Not as impulsive, not as stupid as he could sound.
And frankly, a nicer man.
Not a person, not a person, but a nicer man.
But still very much like Khrushchev in the sense that they are both very pertinent.
You know, we're doing live.
We're doing live.
We're doing live.
We're doing live.
We're doing live.
We're doing live.
We're doing live.
We're doing live.
Before John left office to speak, he was talking always about life at once.
And here he went through this one-hour summary of his great days.
working on the whips about to, and still when all these stages go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on
Not Joe and I. Joe and I. Joe and I talked about that.
Very, very long time.
Very long.
On we go.
Onward and upward.
We'll be there.
Sure, sure.
Well, I've had a good time.
I've had good connections with other guys.
Hey.
No.
I want to help you.
All right.
And if we haven't had the water, what's the difference?
We've got 65 of them.
Why don't they cost us?
Well, of course they do, sir.
I know the answer to the same thing.
All right.
Why'd they do that?
Utterly inane, smooth, and wrong.
Too much money.
Too many unsupported jobs.
Spending money.
And being pushed, and so forth.
The bigger public better do this.
And they started to look, well, here's the scheme.
We're going to do real big things.
Real big options.
We're going to break the wall.
So I'm just, I don't think I'm going to get caught.
Well, that's the thing.
That's the difference of experiencing this kind of thing and liking it, that you're going to get caught.
Yep.
That's right.
That's right.
Now, Bryce, one thing that I want to say to you, and I'll spread this to you, Mel will not be back here.
Mel will not be back here.
Hopefully, later, he feels he's got to see you.
You are a considerate professor, but I want you to feel the view now, you know, and have some thought about it.
Why don't you sit out there?
I don't.
But you can handle the problem with no time.
Because, believe me, uh, the boxes will all come.
But, uh, I don't want you to feel that you're in a different position.
That's all I got to do.
And, uh, I really think that you believe me, Spafford, that you're going to be very good.
My view is that I don't know.
So I don't think you probably know how to do it.
It's not around the sequoias.
Or else you sit around the sequoias and have a nice night.
Sit around in the gas.
What do you think?
There's always two good things in that environment.
The other thing is that I feel that on our trips, certainly before California, you know, I think before you go, because there, let's move the land.
Two purposes, exactly.
One is that they can go out and make a mission and make a period of work, and I've got to be able to do that.
The other is, they're wise enough.
It's nice out there, too, isn't it?
What was that, sir?
There are many, of course, members out there.
Saturday, I see.
Saturday, I hear.
Saturday, I hear.
And July, August, and August.
Well, I'll find out, Mr. President, when I'm ready to do it, when I feel like I have to.
I was going to be very, I mean, well, it was the cut-miss.
You know, as I don't know many problems on which I think I've had any.
Well, that's what you do.
But, you know, I'll give you an example of the kind of thing you bring me in.
Yeah.
I'll just tell you this quickly, because I'm going to blow you the ass now, see what I mean.
He was about to leave office without ever having had Harry Truman in life.
Oh.
And in 1960, 1950, I went to Jim Adams, he must have been 58, and I said, Governor, we've got to get the president to bring him in.
He can't leave the office and have this hangover and make him feel bad for the rest of his life.
And he must have let him do that to himself.
He said, you lost your mind.
Are you going to go there, too?
He said, I'm not.
I said, well, I'm going to talk to Jerry Persons.
So I said, Jerry.
I said, Jerry, what are you going to do?
He said, I've been kept dead at the file table.
So I went to Tom Stevens.
I said, Tom, Bob said this.
He said, hello, I'd like to talk to you about how I'm going to talk to you tonight.
I said, Jim, what are you going to do?
He said, I've been kept dead at the file table.
I looked at her, and I said, hey, there's a bunch of people out here, those bastards around here, who don't care if there's a son or a daughter.
And I'm about to do it.
Is anybody with me?
She said, no.
So I came in real quick.
I said, well, I'm going to go in there, and even got involved, so I just skid out here.
I said, I'll put out something, and she went out.
He sat there and he looked at me and he said, remember that five-star book that you used to do on the stage?
Isn't that crazy?
And also, those cold eyes and those white eyebrows just started tickling that man.
So I went through that and I told him, I said, Fred, I want to tell you something about you.
You're very unhappy with me right now.
And so, at the end of the day, I had to do it over and over again so he could pay me out and I could win.
Number two,
Um, I think that I ought to tell you that you will probably get mad enough before I get far enough into this that I will be able to finish what I'm saying.
I hope you will try to let me.
So I'm listening.
And he listened to her.
And I told him.
And he just was confused.
And I told him, I said, what is it for you?
So we ran and we sat down and we sat down and we sat down and we sat down and we sat down and we sat down and we sat down and we sat down and we sat
And he comes with you, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this,
And what he said, as a matter of fact, on that first tour, when he gave us an excuse he couldn't come, was that he was going to Europe.
And he was going to Europe, but he couldn't come, of course, anyway.
And on the gangplank, on the investment in New York, the press said to me, and asked him why he'd never been to White House.
And he said that he'd never been to White House.
It had just been.
He lied to Steve about this.
Now, something of that kind took my name.
I don't want that scar.
If anything, I have left my theft.
Let me keep it from you.
I know.
God, I have never been a traitor, correct, unbelievable in this office.
I don't do it at all.
Curse me.
I can't believe it.
Not that I've been a traitor.
I've been hungry.
I've been hungry.
I've been hungry.
I've been hungry.
I've been hungry.
I mean, I mean, it could be, but I didn't find a time where that might be useful.
I think it was useful for you to do that, but not for your kind.
Look, I don't care who they are.
It's just, I got them.
I'll sit down and show it live.
Right?
Why not?
Pretty comparable.
All of you in line are not supposed to do it, is it?
No matter who they both are, showing live is more interesting than electricity.
Impression is more interesting.
I've heard it easier.
Is he a seminary priest, Joe?
Is he similar to Khrushchev?
Yes, but not so crude.
And not as quick.
Khrushchev, in terms of mental reactions, stirred and so forth, was as quick as anybody before.
He was no savage.
Right in that, just as tempestuous as Khrushchev.
Not as impulsive as Khrushchev.
And frankly, a nicer man.
Not even a person.
A nicer man.
But still very much like each other in the sense that they are both very pertinent.
You know, we do in life, in our own lives,
President, the passengers are ready.
Yes, 5-5, 7-8, 6-4, 5-5.
It's very important to have vibes, and I forgot to do an L, I didn't tell you last year.
And I listened to Jim and I, too, and I said, this place, yeah, doesn't have privacy.
And I went through it.
What was the impression?
You don't want to make me think, because I know what you're saying.
Uh, did you have my phone number?
Before John left office to speak, he was talking always about like it was.
And here he went through this one-hour summary of his great days working in the Wilson Valley, too, and still went on all these stages, going on and on.
I understand he always does a bunch of different things.
McCormick.
Oh, yes.
But you remember McCormick always did this on World War II.
Yeah.
He always did it in the past.
And the more this went on, the less I listened to him.
I thought...
I recognized the same sign as Mr. Greenbeard when he sneaked in the house the other day.
Terry Porter says the neighbor's talking about the past.
Not Joe and I. Joe and I?
Joe and I are talking about the past.
Very, very long time.
Very long time.
On we go.
Onward and upward.
All right, sir.
We'll be there.
Sure, sure.
Well, I've got to get back to the connections that I've got.
I'm ready to go.
I'm ready to go.
You never know.
Come in, come in.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Come on in.
Yeah, well, you can't tell, you know, he just looked at it.
You know, this is all he's saying.
I'm going to call you Mary.
Mary works at the paint shop.
That's why I said I'd call her.
I don't want to.
Because she's a real customer.
All right, all right.
My guy went high on the mountain out there today.
That's what he ought to do.
Go to Europe.
Get involved in some of these other things.
Very nice.
That's kind of there to get the cost of that.
Now, uh, you ought to talk to, uh, what else, uh, I know, uh, I don't know, Mary Strang, and she is, she really gets to do things that you've already done for so long, and I don't know, and this is a real property, but it's, yeah, but you do need to go do it.
If you go into the, the drill, I mean, the floor, and let Lucy, if you want to do that,
Well, that's good.
That's good.
Well, that's good, Al.
That's a good achievement.
Right.
What time are you going to have Bryson, Al?
Because I think I ought to get him for a picture.
Okay.
See you around.
Yeah, well, government, I want a picture of the good morons when I'm reading.
Okay.
Because they should have just a picture of you in the audience.
Okay.
Well, how are you doing?
Fine.
I'm delighted that Brian is going to be sharing his story.
He has a very good reaction to your speech, by the way.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Excellent.
Well, you know, the thing is,
let me tell you a couple things
You work very closely with Bryce, and with the extent that Larry allows any of us to work closely with him, he's very kind.
You know Bryce.
You know Bryce very well.
Bryce has my great confidence in him.
And he knows the situation.
And I want to be clean, you know, and Bryce knows all this.
I don't know the politics of this house.
Now I've got to sit with him.
And you've got to work with George.
Why do you keep Mel out of politics?
Well, Mel is going to put the politics out of the house.
He's going to be so busy with the bills.
I'm not going to let him.
You see, the party politics is on Mel's day, and he's not that close to Bush.
I'd like to hear that one.
You're close to Bush, aren't you?
Yes, I get along with him.
And Arlo.
Arlo.
What do you think?
What do you think is close to Bush?
What I want, one thing, is particularly...
is the use of confidence.
A colleague cannot talk about his role at hand.
It won't work out for him to be a fully-based advisor in the center line of victory, but he will come in economic meetings and energy meetings and cabinet meetings and where I want him to be.
And we'll be here, and he'll come in as an advisor, and he'll say, that's what you want.
So his role is that of just frankly a darn good friend of the president's.
I am very disappointed in the party that failed when he became a Republican, given the invitation to go ahead.
Now look, at the present time, Conley is the biggest draw this party has.
He will draw.
Then he is the biggest draw.
He is about ten times the best salesman we have, particularly in the United States.
He goes out and builds on the President.
He fights.
He knows how.
He handles things.
I know all the jealousies in common.
I know that Tower Mason, and most Texas Republicans, won't have to go down in two.
Of course, I could be jealous of him.
Blair will be with a guy with one eye, and Rockefeller, and all that.
We all know that.
But from the standpoint of this administration and this country, John Connolly is a strong and vigorous man.
He's not a witness.
He's a witness to the party man.
He's doing something to surprise them.
And I'd like you,
I'm surprised that your state hasn't gotten invitations.
For instance, I owe John McDonald, who is now chairman, the state chairman, wants him very much.
He should be going to Chicago.
He should be going to Cleveland, to Cincinnati, to Columbus.
He should be going to, of course, the big names in California, Los Angeles, San Francisco.
I mean, sure.
It's a waste for John.
I always wanted to go to Miami.
But other service can visit the other states.
John should do some of them.
He's well in Atlanta.
William, how did he feel about the fundraiser?
He may ask me about it, and I'll say yes.
But basically, Connolly has gotten to what he is now.
He's gotten to whatever he wants to in the future.
Great hand.
Connolly is not paying for the presents.
The others that I mentioned are, and I'm just grateful that he's as far as he can shoot.
Connolly has a strange attitude about this.
It must go back to the chute.
Maybe it goes back to another place.
Maybe it goes back to the packing place where it was lying.
I don't know.
You mean he definitely does not want to be pregnant?
No, no, no.
He's the panting guy.
Oh, panting guy.
He's the panting guy.
Yeah.
Smell it.
Yeah.
It's a very different situation.
You've got to follow the pain.
Smell it, don't say it.
Smell it.
That's fine.
And the first it is.
They're all there.
They're all there.
Okay guys, let's try this real quick.
Now, on the other hand, we have to realize that who knows what the situation is going to be.
The main thing we've got to find out is that we've got to find a man who is very capable.
And again, there must never be a lot of people in this office that would be as terrible as that person.
There's a lot of people around here.
There's a lot of people around here.
There's a lot of people around here.
And I don't want to be like, I'm sorry, we're really strong, but I don't want to deal with that.
But I am referring to the fact that the public's got to be careful.
Not at all.
Not that much.
And wherever it's equal, that's okay.
You know, they will change now.
They've got to step up.
And they don't have anybody else.
So it's got to come from our ranks.
And we will know the right time.
Now, therefore, Congress has got to be in that place.
It's got to be in our place.
because this man has that strange mystique of leadership where he can come into a role and command and sell.
Not to make a big comparison, but it's the way that I have tried to present the American program compared to the way Schultz does.
It's not the down on Schultz, just the fact that he's had
Now, I want you to watch the conversation very carefully.
I don't know what you think of it, but I'm telling you.
The point is, I think that he is a man of great quality.
He's got to be a no-brainer.
He hates the chemists for their attention.
He hates them.
He can be extremely helpful to his family.
And I want him to have great belief.
He probably will not come to the administration.
Is he satisfied with being a Catholic?
Well, I think he will be once he knows what it is.
And we think we've got to work on it.
It was not good in the beginning when I said he was in here.
But now he's in here.
And my relationship with them will be very different from us because I don't have a personal relationship with these other people.
I do to a certain extent with Bryce and Mel.
They're all another generation.
John and I, you know, I see him on a man-to-man basis.