{"conversationCode":"947-013","tapeNumber":947,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-947-013","startDateTime":"1973-07-10T18:51:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-07-10T18:52:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Jul-1973","startTime":"2:51 PM","endDate":"10-Jul-1973","endTime":"2:52 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On July 10, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:51 pm and 2:52 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 947-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":"Abuse of Governmental Power Release","aogpSegment":"Segment 0","lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 947-13\n\nDate: July 10, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 2:51 pm and 2:52 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       President’s Schedule\n              -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.\n\n       Watergate\n             -White House tape of September 15, 1972 meeting\n             -Use by H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n             -Access\n                     -John D. Ehrlichman, Charles W. Colson\n             -Bull’s possible conversation with Haig\n             -Knowledge of tapes\n                     -J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr.\n                     -Haig\n                             -April 15, 1973 tape\n                                     -California trip\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 2:52 pm.","filename":["947-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"947-012","nextCode":"947-014","transcript":[{"start":0.37,"end":1.34,"text":"Alert, out."},{"start":80.78,"end":82.78,"text":"way of conversation, which is not particularly"},{"start":115.88,"end":117.4,"text":"And I haven't told anyone else."},{"start":117.42,"end":125.13,"text":"I haven't told anyone else and I'm even doing this."},{"start":125.39,"end":126.88,"text":"This is something about us."},{"start":145.66,"end":149.47,"text":"Hey, I didn't listen to the April 15th interview."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to discuss sensitive matters regarding the administration's taping system and the handling of specific recordings. Their dialogue focused on access to the September 15, 1972, tape by former aides, as well as the potential implications of the April 15, 1973, recording concerning a trip to California. The President emphasized discretion regarding these files, coordinating with Bull on who possessed knowledge of the tapes and how that information was being managed.","topics":["Watergate","White House Tapes","Alexander M. Haig Jr.","H. R. Haldeman","Presidential Records","Executive Privilege"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-09T00:47:44.271Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate","white-house-tapes","alexander-m-haig-jr","h-r-haldeman","presidential-records","executive-privilege"],"audioDurationSec":163,"audioFiles":[{"file":"947-013.mp3","bytes":5210112,"durationSec":162.72,"bitrate":256151,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:06.981Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/947-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/947-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/947/conversation-947-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}