Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 948-002
Date: Wednesday, July 11, 1973 at 8:20 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Ziegler, Ronald L.; [Unknown person(s)]
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/948-002

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[0:00] Uh, good evening.
[0:01] Uh, I'm going to notice that we're being cattled in today, so they may have revision.
[0:05] But it's just in my mind, uh, I'm going to go to the office tomorrow and see if there's any informant in the evidence room.
[0:21] Oh, fine, fine.
[0:23] You know, in, uh, talking about those, uh, tapes, I was wrong in, uh,
[0:34] They told them all on the 20th of March.
[0:38] What was the April 15th thing that you're talking about?
[0:42] How did that come to you?
[0:45] Maybe it was the 20th of March.
[0:48] There was one that L.A. had a friend of us listen to back here rather than coming out to tell them.
[0:58] Are you sure?
[0:59] Yes, sir.
[0:59] There were two?
[1:01] No, there was only one that he was going to listen to.
[1:03] We weren't going to use it at all.
[1:07] We weren't going to use it at all.
[1:12] We weren't going to use it at all.
[1:15] We weren't going to use it at all.
[1:19] We weren't going to use it at all.
[1:21] We weren't going to use it at all.
[1:25] We weren't going to use it at all.
[1:26] We weren't going to use it at all.
[1:33] Now, I don't care who it is, you know, anybody would ask, ever ask for it unless you hear it first.
[1:40] The Al Taylor was a message that I'd ask you to send me.
[1:43] It's waiting to hear it from me this evening.
[1:46] It's because we don't want to ever have those things opened up.
[1:50] And that's the same with the presidential papers over there.
[1:53] Nobody could go talk through those as certain as I have.
[1:56] See, you might not know this, but the only people who've ever listened to any of those things, you're selling them.
[2:01] Paul didn't listen to a couple.
[2:04] Buzzard listened to that one, and you had me listen to one.
[2:07] Yeah, I listened to one on March 14th.
[2:10] Good.
[2:11] Bob asked where he might listen to March 13th in an afternoon meeting on the 21st that took place in the EOB.
[2:20] She had an objection to that.
[2:30] Well, the one that I have on March 13th does not have him in it, unfortunately.
[2:37] He says he was there on March 13th.
[2:42] Did he get the other ones on the 15th?
[2:43] He had the September 15th ones.
[2:45] We just gave them to him last night, I think.
[2:49] Again, this morning.
[2:53] But, last night, I got rid of it, so I'll pay them this morning.
[3:07] What is the situation on, uh... the property right here?
[3:18] Okay.
[3:18] We'll do the first check of the log.
[3:37] I can see which one he was in.
[3:38] I don't want him to listen to the one that I'm not supposed to see.
[3:43] He was in it, see, because I'm not playing any good.
[3:48] You see, on the 13th, the log, he says he was there.
[3:52] The log that I have is the same.
[3:56] Rob, just give me a second.
[3:57] Okay.
[3:57] How about you up here?
[4:09] The 21st of March, there's an afternoon meeting at the EOB.
[4:13] After the meeting, I think it feels to be helpful.
[4:23] And finally, he questions in his own mind about the variety.
[4:27] He said April 15th, EOB meeting.
[4:29] He said there's a portion in it that, well, where it's just Peterson and Klein, and Bob doesn't even want to hear that.
[4:40] And he was questioning whether you think it appropriate for him to listen to that portion where he was pressing.
[4:59] It's April 15th.
[5:00] Sure, I don't care if he listens to the other part.
[5:03] What was the April, what was it, April 13th?
[5:07] March 13th.
[6:36] It's very poor.
[6:38] It's very difficult.
[6:44] Yeah, yeah.
[7:05] I don't care if he can.
[7:08] I told him all about it later.
[7:12] Was he in that too?
[7:28] He later ended the interview, either before or after the interview, but he said he wasn't there, and it is kind of unfortunate that he had to go to jail.
[7:37] The issue is that they are technically controlled.
[7:42] But you said, I want to refresh my memory, it's bizarre to see the people at the 15th.
[7:50] I was thinking it was the 15th that he had listened to.
[7:53] He would ask her or wasn't.
[7:56] How did the message come to you?
[8:03] I just want to be sure that you're carried on exactly according to my...
[8:08] I'll prove to you only on the basis of... Al Bay called during the... when we were in California.
[8:17] I know when we were in California.
[8:19] And we considered the... That's the one that was the...
[8:28] It's a telephone call, and I approve of that.
[8:31] That's the only one that's been released.
[8:35] To anyone other than yourself, on the meeting tonight, we had a few senators.
[8:43] We have a problem with that.
[8:45] We've been running into too many spats with those.
[8:47] Last time we had more spats than senators.
[8:49] None of them did knock them all off, but tonight we just had ten of them.
[8:59] Well, maybe tonight they should have us in Harlem.
[9:04] And don't have the Senate staff, man.
[9:08] Just don't.
[9:09] We've just got to keep it down with that.
[9:12] That's all.
[9:13] Now, if Kansas insists on one more, that's fine.
[9:15] No more.
[9:15] You know what I mean?
[9:17] You can't have more than three staff people who used to turn into the honor.
[9:22] Okay?
[9:23] You can see why, Steve.
[9:25] When they've got that many staff, they don't feel anything.
[9:27] They had eight staff people before we discussed it.
[9:30] And they're doing it.
[9:31] And that, of course, has got a whole group.
[9:34] And I don't mind if you said they've got to rotate that.
[9:40] There will be a total of two staff.
[9:41] So it will be Harlow and Laird will have to get a station back.
[9:49] There comes the house meeting.
[9:57] I think we can get away with it tonight.
[10:03] You wouldn't want to have Larry in the office tonight.
[10:26] There's that National Alliance for Business that's been coming to you.
[10:29] I will not go.
[10:31] I'm going to be sure to invite the president.
[10:40] He's the vice president.
[10:42] You know about the National Alliance for Business?
[10:48] Have you heard about it?
[10:51] Yes, ma'am.
[10:51] It was definitely a turn of events.
[10:53] I know.
[10:53] I turned her down.
[10:58] for you today was that National Association of Farm Broadcasters that Julian's doing, sir.
[11:05] I won't do that.
[11:11] I'm not going to do it.
[11:12] Julian's doing those.
[11:13] Julian's going to do the farm broadcasters and things too.
[11:17] I've got them out here.
[11:18] I've got them.
[11:31] Thank you.