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All right, all right, how's your trip?

Oh, God, I don't think that was a bad trip through.

I had a visit with a company in the rear end of Maine, and I had a couple of good ones.

Yeah, I had a visit with a company in the rear end of Maine.

I had a visit with a company in the rear end of Maine, and I had a couple of good ones.

So that would be a hell of a gun to pull off ourselves, right?

That's good.

So he's all set for that.

He's raising all problems.

He said, love.

I said, how?

He said, he's a wonderful guy.

He said, he's dry.

He said, somebody's got to cry.

He said, he's never been to cry before.

So I said to that, he went through the whole thing.

We talked about the lottery and the persecution.

He said, look, people have a certain amount of decisions that actually get through.

All of us, they didn't talk about running this for a balance of the year through the next year.

But he says, you know, take a look at it.

They're saying, do you want to get it off?

He said, you're going to attack them at that time.

He's, of course, a fighter, but he's a very good dude.

So that was about all.

But he couldn't be in better shape.

He's well-suited.

He'll make his lawful announcement when we announce his trip.

Good.

So we've got to have him in good shape.

So I didn't get to that point.

He told me that he'd been raised nice and well, and he would need to work on it.

He'd have to be an auditor.

I think maybe he could work on it with Rob and so forth.

But he was all right.

No, I think he seemed very appreciated.

You know, Peter, after the show,

Tell me about your trip first.

Well, I covered all the things that we had discussed, and I think I was standing ovation afterwards when the guys came up to me and said, you guys are going to have a great chance to hear these good things.

Is that right?

There isn't enough discussion of what's been accomplished and what we're doing to be important.

When the hell that came, I could hardly get out of there.

I rushed back, and we were very enthusiastic, and I had to begin that.

extended to them their greetings and support and let me take a couple hours off to go up and talk to them because he thought it was so important he could come here with me.

They, I'll tell you, there is no difference.

But I provided the inspector with wood, Dave.

What did he have around him?

He had some cameras and drills and all that sort of thing.

He worried about a thousand guys.

A thousand.

And the board has a powerful group.

Oh, they're great guys.

So that went fine, sir.

I am very pleased about this economic package.

Not that I think there's anything wrong, but I'll tell you, it's a look.

And when I got to study the papers, which we got the last meeting yesterday, and studied them carefully, there were just a lot of money to be questioned in the context of options, especially in the balanced budget area.

uh boy that's a turkey that you've got to know what you're buying when you're buying it means i'm not so sure but that means that much of a winner brian is the one that's pushed that he's of course please announce balance but it is a dramatic effect let me tell you what i don't think we're dead but not the dance

whether it's going to help the dollar a lot of other things, I don't know.

But now we've been responsible in our budget.

What the hell good is it now?

I think if we get that budget down to, we're talking about a 267 and so forth, good God, it involves a thousand three-toes and so forth and so on, beyond belief.

I think we'd better tackle that at a later time.

Well, that has been evident.

That, you know, if we're going to do it, you would have to.

I did not commit to that.

No, you didn't.

I didn't say it.

And by the way, I don't know if the whole, like, cop, he didn't mention Bob's wife at the time, but he, Edward Byrd, thank you, but he, uh, he said he thought that the wage war was all right, the 60 days, and all right, and all right, and now he's doing, he's doing the suit cut.

I didn't write the suit cut.

In fact, I'm not, I'm not Edward Byrd.

He got into the suit cut.

I, I, I said to the cops, I said, now, look, I don't care about it, but I'll say, what about the property suit cut?

He said, let me tell you the truth.

He said, no.

They talk about the little pigs that we've killed off in the district.

The farmers, if their heads are good, keep it off.

Because if you take it off, it makes everything you've done look a little bit more incredible.

Except doing it in this gradual way, they're burying the source of that.

Yeah.

Well, the problem now is... Now what do we do?

Well, that's right, sir.

I'm in there to meet with all these guys.

Well, you are, but I want to go back.

Thank you, sir.

Well, my instinct would be to have them package these two things separately.

Phase four...

You see, what they are figuring, what they are figuring, it's a big blast.

Here's basically, there is one, there is a crisis.

In our deal, this crisis has got an impact on all fronts.

So first, we're going to have phase four.

And second, we're going to have, we're going to deal with export controls and that sort of thing.

And third, we're going to have a very strict fiscal policy.

And I urge the Congress to support all of these things and go up to the Congress and do it.

Now, I have a plan to start at this end of the funnel, not to go to the Congress.

You still agree with that?

All right.

Now, there you go.

Mel doesn't.

I know.

Bryce doesn't.

George doesn't.

I know.

They're all pretty upset.

I was going to talk to a bracelet last night.

I've been in a soft way.

So I think it's just you misread.

I've been comfortable with that in the old work way.

I've been happy.

So they came back at me again this morning.

And what we've got now as a whole staff bureaucratic problem is how to get the thing on track.

And I think the best way would be to have them submit really three papers that are

One is the Phase 4 and all its implications so that you can make the decision on the patients that are still undecided.

Then the balance of budget and its implications.

I am looking at that with me in terms of procurement.

I'll tell you, some of it is pretty starchy stuff, politically, in the veto area, firing people, the whole thing.

And then the third is the format for how to present what you can focus on.

If you just went option one and did phase four and held up one balance party, if you put them both together, how would you present that?

Well, I know how their feelings are.

I didn't want to project it themselves because I don't want to take Bryce and Mel from the first major recommendation.

They would care how to do something to say no, but either longer than they have.

And I know that they would have a president up there that got to have Congress two or three times a year.

But this is not the time to go to that Congress.

That Congress is not in that kind of a mood.

Not in that kind of a mood.

And also, it's not the kind of a speech that the Congress is going to be interested in.

I mean, I just feel worse talking about that.

And now this budget presents also, we've got to recognize, in a political year, the enormous problems.

If we're going to put congressmen and senators up against tough veto votes in a political year, we might have, well, hell of a rebellion.

And we might get rolled and rolled and rolled.

I think the way we've got to handle that, actually, specifically for the realism of all the budget ceiling

And that's what we get from the fight for women's ballots.

We'll talk about that later.

It's premature to say we're going to have a ballot sweating.

If you make a speech to the Congress that much, it's supposed to be their cheer line.

But I don't know what they feel.

If I just look at the Congress, that would hurt everybody's attention from a lot of people.

There ain't no way that you can hurt the attention of the country with Watergate during this next four weeks, when you've got Mitchell up there, and you've got Hall up there, and you've got Burke.

Because, God, I mean, you're right.

Well, I talked to Ron about it at length last night, this year, and he's definitely sitting down.

I think that's absolutely right.

But I think the better way to handle it is how to get it.

Is there another way, for example, I wouldn't mind having found a very substantial number

committee chair and so forth, maybe full combinations on these areas or something, or maybe invite businessmen.

And we've never done this before.

We can invite top labor leaders.

We can invite top business leaders.

We can invite top congressmen and senators.

Have them over there in the East Room and say, I want to present base points.

And out of that, we could have them sitting behind desks.

I think that's a good way to do it, to do it a little differently.

The budget, I'm not ready to do it.

I think you could keep the budget, put the budget in, but in terms of we've got to have just a reference to the back of our fiscal policy, we must continue to be able to hold the line and spend it.

And that we need to hold out the possibility that we're looking toward a possible balance budget.

I don't mind you putting that in, but put a number in there.

Put a number in there.

All right, good luck with that.

God, they don't have trouble.

Look at the hell we're going through this year.

And we're just not that finite on our figures here.

I really just don't believe they're right, Sam.

Well, let me tell you what I think.

This is not true of Bryce, and he hasn't thought it all through yet.

But it's certainly true of Mel.

Mel didn't do that at the time of the arrest, but he went down to the college.

That's the problem here.

I think with that defense budget, we just can't, we can't fight that bullet out.

That's what I figured, too, and that's where we turn, and it could be in a place like this.

Well, I think I can get this shaped this way, and this way, and I can do a couple of options.

Yeah, I want to follow through.

Maybe let's do something very different.

Maybe we breed business people.

We have a whole series of breeders.

Maybe we breed them separately.

Maybe we breed.

But I can get them all in a room that may have the elite, rather than having a state of the union crap where the congressman, the jackass congressman has a grave cart and a few baskets there.

Why don't we have business and labor and

the business, labor, and political leaders of this country, including a few governors.

I was making that, invited to the White House for a presentation on this.

I will make the presentation now.

And after that, we would go on to the meeting.

I got the Q&A session to be.

You couldn't tell me.

have a license on the time it kills you.

And what you should do is just say you have a license because when you have it back, you fill in the first part, you build the first part, then you go off and stay and cover the rest, let the reporters cover every bit of it, including the questions and the answers and so forth and so on.

And have a, have basically a period of a whole day, a whole day of a sort of, I mean, a whole day, a half day, coming around.

I've been thinking that that's a part of the way it ought to be done at this point.

Now, they will say, well, this won't do the trick.

This has got to be sold to the country and so forth and so on.

Let me tell you, this is going to excite the country.

No, there ain't no way that this phase four is going to excite this country.

The fact that you're moving the breeze and you're going to have a six-bed, top controls and all that kind of thing.

All we want to do is to frankly try to reassure the business community

that you have a responsible program.

And reassure the country to the extent that you can, that you're not just flushing the whole thing, and that they can continue to think that we're fighting inflation.

But in terms of an exciting challenge to the country, to fight it and so forth, the president gets in charge of moving around the country in Pittsburgh.

And to rebuke other places themselves is no, sir.

This is not the topic of excellent day off.

I know.

Let me tell you what I have in mind, and I don't think Cotley, uh, didn't discuss this with Cotley, but Cotley's view is that you don't make any votes on our history.

Uh, he says, because he needs a water game, but he says, he thinks, right after Labor Day,

I just don't believe too that in August you can build up over a survey.

I've been through this August and before.

It doesn't build up a campaign.

In August it's very healthy.

And our people are all on vacation.

They turn off their minds, basically, even if they're not on vacation.

And so time of year doesn't work.

The Congress will be gone.

And I don't think the package might be that good.

And I don't think, and I agree with you, that I am not prepared.

I'm prepared for a tough budget policy.

We've done things that are unbelievably tough.

And we're going to say we will continue to be tough.

We're going to say that.

But to put right now, to freeze ourselves into another, I'm scared of that.

I agree.

I thought this was a conclusion.

We freeze ourselves into another, and...

It's not a good idea.

And then without that, they're kind of battling through with their songs.

And with it, it wouldn't.

I think we would be antagonizing a lot of people with it.

And at the end of the line, God has gotten our role with all the great systems at the wrong end.

But the whole point is this.

Do you announce a new score?

Do you announce a new budget?

He just doesn't have a hell of an effect on inflation.

That's the thing.

It doesn't help much.

And that is, for the average person, it may help stabilize the situation regarding the dollar and the stock market and all that jazz.

But those guys will all be against it.

They'll get the message.

They don't have to hear it on television.

They don't have to see it before the Congress.

I know it's tough to tell this.

I don't know how strong it is, but they've got to learn around here.

I'm extremely cooperative.

I agree with that in principle, but I also agree with the substance of it on this occasion.

I've just gotten a big hand for it.

And the elements here, they're dealing with your chips and everybody else's.

Well, I can go back and get this one.

What did he say here?

The leaders of labor, the leaders of labor, the leaders of Congress, the leaders of business, and so forth and so on, have a doubt.

Have a peace group.

Big deal.

Right there.

I come in and I say, I want to talk to you about phase four.

I also want to talk to you about the Dan speech that I would like to know from the Congress.

I don't care about that.

But in the middle of the day, see, so that those are so that they can catch the evening news report.

And where do you go more time?

I don't think you have a Tuesday boot camp.

I don't.

I'm not so sure we should switch to Friday at the weekend cycle or Thursday.

I tell you, if you talk to two dudes,

I'm not very sure.

That probably had on signing.

I think that's managed very well.

Can't even announce it.

You just do it.

You'll see.

Maybe it only affects two issues.

Okay.

Well, actually, we could do it.

We could do it.

Basically, I'll take control here and continue.

But obviously I won't have the time to repair that little machine that damn day.

Wednesday's the day I need to repair.

Thursday's the day.

Let's hear Thursday.

Thursday.

Now, another thing I would say is I would say one week every month.

That's too much of a waste.

I would skip one week every month.

That's too much of a waste of time.

So let's skip the cabinet meeting this week.

I agree with you.

Let's speak to the business leader.

So that we, you know, we'll be able to shift it through.

I set a deal and it went on and on and on.

No, I think we can work our way through the packages, through the packages step by step.

I mean, it's interesting.

It's interesting.

The only other thing I think I, I, I want to get, I'm sure the first time, I want to have Kimballson calling me again.

I'll be sure the first time we have Donald Kimballson calling me again.

He wants to see before he can get here.

I want to have him sit down.

He wants to see before he can get here.

I'll have to see.

He'll be a bore.

He wants an hour.

He's gonna be bored too.

And you know, I love Don.

I'll have to see him.

He's gonna be a bore.

He wants an hour.

He's gonna be bored too.

You know, I love him too, because I'm hard and heavy, and I've got to do this and that and the other thing.

I've got to do this and that and the other thing.

He just beats the odds.

But, of course, I'll have to see.

You know, that's what I know.

You know, it's just a game.

You know, I'm hard, but I'm working at it.

So I'll be really safe.

I think he's having it.

I don't like it.

Of course, I'll have to see, you know, that thing.

There's a lot of work in the south, and you're just trying to find any content that you're going to say tonight.

It's terrible.

So he doesn't figure it out.

He's only saying, I don't think he's having as much fun today, you know, because I'm on Thursday.

I think we can do it early next week, if that's what you're saying.

I'm trying.

I'm trying to keep it up.

I don't like it.

I would just try Friday.

You can say her.

Yeah.

You've got to be careful.

I'm not going to make it this weekend.

Or, if you can't get it next Monday, come on Monday, Tuesday.

How's that?

That's fine.

Or, if you can't get it next Monday, come on Monday, Tuesday.

How's that?

That's fine.

I don't know.

We've now recruited this pedigree guy to be propped off of the package.

I'm getting both of yours.

Yes, I know it.

I'm afraid the guy here also has his own views.

He's a controller.

Well, he was a controller.

He was a controller, you know.

He was in control.

Why do these guys sit at these meetings now and allow Arthur or Percy or the rest of them to talk about taxes?

Percy or the rest of them.

It's a trope.

We can't tax them.

It's a trope.

There ain't no way.

Mills will let them.

We just can't tax them.

There ain't no way.

The production controls are not the same as they were in the Korean War.

That was a fast fail.

Here's a new idea.

Everybody wants to have production incentives and control.

We're probably the production controls are not the same.

It's a bad idea, but I think it's... Well, we can't work.

...as they were in the Korean War.

I don't know.

I mean, I guess it's not a result.

I guess it's not a result.

I guess he can't, I guess George can't do it.

I mean, that's, there's the problem.

I mean, we get to decide, especially if that's all, you know, we get justice because of that, as far as you can report it.

And the president is one of all these guys to cop, and the cop is a good guy.

He should be able to power him or listen to him on the rest.

But George is the expert in security.

We can't do it, can we?

No.

Good sign.

I guess I have to see him.

Good mail.

I don't know.

Some type of, uh, mailman.

Yeah.

Why do we hold off on that?

Well, because of the tax out of that.

And?

And he bribes.

I guess he can't.

Bryce used to say, and then Bryce used to tell me, well, God damn it, we can't get a tax bill through.

That production isn't controlled, we can't get through.

Since even George can't do it.

I mean, that's, there's the problem.

The problem is, we used to be in inflation.

By the way, that Bryce, I'd like for Bryce to check it out and see the practicalities of it.

How does that sound to you?

That's all, uh, we could show all these guys the copy, and the copy would be overpowered.

listen to him on the rest of it.

George, you can't do it, can you?

No.

Good silence.

No.

Good mouth.

No.

Yeah.

Why do we hold off on that?

Well, because it attacks at that angle.

Maybe Bryce.

Bryce should tell them what we've got then, but we can't get attached to the truth.

I'd like for Bryce to check it out and see the practicalities of it.

I bet some people would be good.

Whereby, we had a really high price on road work.

And he was the head of our business county.

Alvin had a really high price on road work.

And he was the head of our business county.

We've made amends.

And here we are.

We've made amends.

Here we are.

Yes, how'd that go?

Got any ideas that we haven't had?

No, it really is funny.

It came down to us.

Yes, how'd that go?

Pretty close to our own something.

It really is fun to participate in with somebody else to just come in pretty regularly and make an assessment.

I would be willing to chair participating with Chapney Rose and see how he's handling that.

and somebody else could just come in pretty regularly and make an assessment from Fred and how he's handling this issue and how he's handling that.

And I think it's pretty good.

I think it's pretty good.

I've got a broader, I've got a patient that's intoxicated with it.

That's why I'm not full-time.

I'm in the patient that's intoxicated with it.

That's why I've been lucky to spend a couple of days looking for time to come in and spend a couple of days where we are.

And look at where we are and what we want to come back to.

And that was the issue with that.

Then you get to see more of the issue with that.

Lawyers on the staff.

Then you get to see more of that.

Working for lawyers on the staff.

And so that way,

No.

Let these guys be heard, and be quiet.

Say a damn word.

Let these guys be heard, and watch on their own.

So I didn't take notes, and didn't do anything other than watch on their own.

I had no idea that was happening.

So I didn't plan to do anything of the sort.

And our government, of course, commonly does not buy any of our credit markets.

This is the end of the chapter.

And we have to hold that in mind.

So I just want to say thank you for our credit markets.

This comes through the end of the chapter.

He just doesn't buy it.

He says, look, I'm through.

The big stars are out there.

He says, you're small.

I'm not that sick of this.

He says, but that winter, it's over.

They get too rough.

He says, you just doesn't buy it.

He says, look, the big stars are out there.

He says, take it off.

He says, I'm not that sick of this.

I think he's exactly right.

He says, whether it is or not, they get too rough.

He says, you just doesn't buy it.

Now I've talked to her about it.

Now he's going on a meeting with the Consulate of Congress tomorrow for a meeting.

He says he's agreed and they will get attacked.

Now they will investigate everything and then he had a meeting with the Consulate of Congress.

whether Elliot would follow through with the cops or not, and there would be consultation and investigate everything in the process.

Then decide whether to follow through with the cops or not.

That Elliot would talk out, he would make denials, and there would be consultation in that process.

on this buckshot stuff that's going on.

Elliott would talk out.

He would make denials regularly on this buckshot stuff that's going on.

And even though Cox may be referred to in the charge, and even though Cox may be held responsible, referred to in the charge, Elliott will do the speaking.

I'm not convinced that it's no trustee.

I'm not convinced that it's no trustee or other.

Yeah.

I'll never watch him.

I'll never.

allegedly, uh, the firm scheduled for him to come in on the week of the 23rd, I guess, earlier than the week of the 23rd, and hold him, and hold him, and hold him, just back here, ultimately, and then back here, ultimately, close him at the end, and then close him at the end.

Close him.

Close him at the end.

of what they call an orgy.

What do you call an orgy?

It's nothing but a place, nothing but a place for plumbers, plumbers.

So next week, so next week we'll probably be, we'll be,

I talked to the postman last night.

He's working on it.

I talked a little bit about strategy.

You should know about strategy.

You should know all the hindsight.

All the hindsight.

He said, I didn't tell him.

I didn't tell him.

I didn't know it was a stocking wash.

I didn't know it was paid off.

He's getting yesterday's testimony.

All the press can do is to stop.

All the press can say is that it's horrible to do is to say that he knew this was horrible because you know the president, he knew this.

I'm sure if Metro says, well, the worst thing is that half the time he's president.

Not bad.

There have been a couple of things under control.

We've just got to keep watching.

There have been a couple of things under control.

We've just got to keep watching.

There have been a couple of things to get these guys on.

They are firmly locked in the way from there on in.

I can order it to you.

You've got it.

I think I want to have another thing.

I want to get the FBI Director over here to fight himself.

The FBI Director over here to fight himself.

I have nothing to talk about.

You should be in on it.

I have nothing to talk about.

You should be in on it.

There is a special relationship with the President.

If there is a special relationship and you have to agree with the president and you have to agree with the secretary of state and you have to agree with the secretary of state and you have to agree with the secretary of state and you have to agree with the secretary of state and you have to agree with the secretary of state and you have to agree

We're going to have regular meetings, especially with other candidates, with the general and the Joint Chiefs.

That's not incidental.

Another thing we're going to do, we're going to have regular meetings, especially with the acting Secretary of Defense and the General of the Joint Chiefs.

That doesn't have to be there every time, you know.

The Secretary of Defense doesn't have to be there every time, you know.

The General will now.

That's the way it's going to be.

The Secretary of Defense doesn't have to be there every time, you know.

That's the way it's going to be.

Well.

Okay, so why don't I go back and get this thing?

Okay, so why don't I go back and get this thing on the track?

It would be on the track.

It would be helpful at some point.

You and, uh, Bryce and, uh, Bryce and, you know, and myself and, you know, you can just, and myself and you can just put therapy, put therapy.

They're feeling it.

We can do an injunction to this if you want.

We have a meeting tomorrow.

Yeah, that's the one.

Sure.

Yeah.

This is nothing but horror.

Sure.

Yeah.

This is nothing but horror.

And actually, that's only the top people.

That's only the top people.

And that's the way the real humans do not have inhibitors or finances.

And that's the way the real humans do.

They are not consular rank.

They are not inhibitors or finances.

They are not consular.

That's not their rank.

That is Cameron's rank.

So it's very, very hard to learn strong.

So it's very hard.

We didn't say we were going to start these.

We didn't say we were going to have these on a regular basis.

We'll leave tomorrow.

That's not right.

Well, I want to do it.

I intend to.

Matter of fact, then after we get going, I'll put them out of the boat one time a week or something like that.

They're going to have something.

I'll put them out of the way.

Because they've got to have a few of them in there.

They've got something to do with it.

Do you want to discuss this economic thing with them tomorrow morning?

They're going to have plenty of time because they've got to have a few of them there.

I think the problem is the economic thing with them is getting settled tomorrow morning before they can have some island.

I would be glad to do that.

and they will never work.

We get their feeling about it, but the second point is that the budget, I think you all, the one thing I would prefer not to discuss with them, I want to try to enlist them above all else.

They don't want to work, they don't want anything, they want to do good.

or how it's done.

Because I made up my mind, I'm not going to go after that kind of problem.

So I said, well, no, I'm just going to do that.

And I thought if they have a different format, we could do the same thing.

That's what we're going to do.

And I think that's a budget format.

And I think that each of those formats, the companies will never work a different way.

The second point is that the time is there.

You can have it there.

the governor's conference and how to get up there.

I've been letting myself make a talk that I would prefer not to discuss with them.

Although, if they want to come up, we'd have them.

They don't want to have questions and answers.

They want to deal with the issues which they could have

I was done, because I made up my mind to go out for an hour or so.

And I didn't need to go out to that conference to do that.

And I was very happy to have a different point of view.

I had a program.

I'm going to get a program through two.

But that's all right.

I didn't need to .

Maybe this is just a program.

I'm probably going to have to reach 20 years of business each year.

And we have a good morning.

have questions and answers, which they could have for a while, for an hour or so.

And that would be a press briefing.

Of course, you've got to have a press briefing, too.

But that's all right with you.

Maybe this is such a very heavy speech.

Right after that, put your hand on your back, and that's how you're going to speak.

We can have a speech before 8.30, and that's our question time.

Would you do this at 8.30 in the morning?

Or 9 o'clock?

9 o'clock in the morning.

And then press it up.

Answer me.

Ask me another question.

Play one.

Answer me.

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Answer me.

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Answer me.

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Answer me.

I think it's a different way to get at them.

It's a different approach in a different way.

If I tell them I'm going to be going on television, national television, Ryan County, the Ryan County,

at the end of these hearings.

And I've got to save that for that.

These hearings.

And I've got to save that for that.

You see, there's another thing.

I see there's another thing.

How people, how people, how you think, you think people squealing about their soap operas.

They, people squealing about their soap operas.

They just hate to have their pride and pride, just hate to have their pride and pride interfered.

They really do.

We got that wrong, but it's a law that distributes it.

I'm afraid of that.

I'm afraid of that fucking thing.

I'm afraid of that.

I'm afraid of that fucking thing.

And I don't do something, and I make that a thing.

I try to do something, and I make that a thing.

And if I do, then I'm sure it's a weird, you know, cause of the other thing.

I thought...

Thank you.

Community staff is harassing all of our friends the rest of the time.

Community staff, especially the IRS, is mistreating our friends, all of them.

Especially the IRS is mistreating our friends, all of them, online.

All of them, online.

How do we look at the media system?

At the cops.

At the cops, I agree.

I'm not ready to judge him.

Does he still have confidence?

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

That's .

Thank you.

Well, that's a big deal.

I think we should move ahead and progress.

We've got to look at how to fight that voice of the person on the ground.

I mean, he's not here.

I'm not complaining about that.

I mean, it's more, I mean, each one of the Congressional are, I think, like, the leaders of this country, the leaders of labor, they're not sure if they're in Congress already or not yet.

I'm not complaining about this.

the leaders of business, the leaders of labor, and the leaders of Congress all around.

Thank you.