Conversation 949-014

On July 12, 1973, Henry A. Kissinger, unknown person(s), Alexander M. Haig, Jr., Ronald L. Ziegler, President Richard M. Nixon, and White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:22 pm and 8:44 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 949-014 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 949-14

Date: July 12, 1973
Time: Unknown between 8:22 pm and 8:44 pm
Location: Oval Office

Henry A. Kissinger met with an unknown man.

       President’s schedule
              -Departure

Alexander M. Haig, Jr. entered at an unknown time after 8:22 pm.

       President’s health
              -President’s schedule
                      -Departure
                             -Bethesda Naval Medical Center
                             -Earlier trip
                      -Zulfikar Ali Bhutto
                             -Spiro T. Agnew, Kissinger
                             -Thelma C. (“Pat”) (Ryan) Nixon
                                     -Planning
              -Announcement

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at an unknown time after 8:22 pm.

       Announcement
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                                                             Conversation No. 949-14 (cont’d)

              -Timing
              -Length
              -President’s health

Ziegler left at an unknown time before 8:44 pm.

The President entered at an unknown time after 8:22 pm.

       President’s health
              -Rest

The President talked with the White House operator at 8:33 pm.

[Conversation No. 949-14A]

[Begin telephone conversation]

[See Conversation No. 41-68]

[End telephone conversation]

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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

       President’s health
              -Treatment

[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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       President’s schedule
              -Bhutto’s state visit
                      -Cancellation
                      -Agnew
                      -Rome
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                                                              Conversation No. 949-14 (cont’d)

                      -William P. Rogers
                      -Compared to Congress members
                      -President’s support
                      -Delay
                      -Agnew
                      -Thelma C. (“Pat”) (Ryan) Nixon
                      -Hospital
                      -Cancellation
                             -Humiliation
                             -President’s support
                      -Compared to Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
                      -Compared to John C. Stennis
                      -Confrontation
                             -Hospital
                      -Cancellation
              -Signature
                      -Haig
              -Staff and family
              -Bhutto
                      -Compared to Ervn
                      -Kissinger’s forthcoming telephone call to Pakistani ambassador
              -Hospital
                      -Duration

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at an unknown time after 8:33 pm.

       President’s health
              -Announcement

Ziegler left at an unknown time before 8:44 pm.

       President’s health
              -Announcement
                      -Dr. Walter Tkach’s diagnosis
                      -Effect on American people
              -President’s schedule
                      -Effect on Ervin and Archibald Cox
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                                                             Conversation No. 949-14 (cont’d)

       Watergate
             -President’s conversation with Ervin
                     -Ervin’s goal
                     -Leaks
             -Ervin Committee
                     -John N. Mitchell’s testimony
                     -Richard A. Moore’s testimony
                     -John W. Dean, III’s testimony
                     -John D. Ehrlichman’s possible testimony
             -Gordon C. Strachan
                     -Possible Ervin Committee testimony
                     -Immunity
             -Effect

       President’s meeting with Walter Scheel

       President’s foreign policy accomplishments
              -Year of Europe
              -Summit
              -Vietnam War

       Watergate
             -President’s opponents
                    -Rowland Evans

       President’s health
              -Ziegler’s announcement
              -White House press corps
              -President’s schedule
                      -Kissinger

       Haig’s schedule

       Ziegler’s location

Kissinger and Haig left at an unknown time before 8:44 pm.
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I see you.
You know, I'm not as good as you can see him, but I am saying we've got to offer him a chance of not coming.
Because he might consider it a humiliation.
Right.
But if it's a potential conflict,
I mean, one thing for you to see now of me is another for you to speak for two hours on the phone and kind of say, all right, two hours, without saying a word.
I mean, Buddha can understand.
I mean, you don't have to see nobody.
the impression we left that when Dr. Prakash
world.
I don't know how to write it.
I think it was on accident.
and all those people, you know, with their calculators
He was alright.
He was alright.
Thank you very much.
That just isn't the oldest feeling.
Oh, they can't cope with this.
There's nothing they can do.
Okay.
Well, I'll be checking.
Yeah.
I'll be glad.